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Sounds real good!

My comment was: "your music sucks real bad. You have the technical means to produce something, so why don't you use them to create good music ?" Yes, it is harsh but perfectly valid. As valid as "your music is fucking good! Why don't you go on and make some more ?"

The spectrum of opinions is vast and does not have to be biased toward one end only.

Why has my comment disappeared ? And most of all, why can't I log in any longer on youtube-google under my usual nickname ? This looks hardly like a technical error but a deliberate attempt at muting voices going against the consensus.

I find the music of this band totally tasteless, regardless of the production quality. If you post the fruit of your efforts on a public space, it is because you want to expose it to the opinion of many people. You should therefore expect some opinions like mine as much as those of fans of your stuff.

Even if the music is crap, and I agree it is, he can be proud of what he has done.

On 12/07/2011 11:25 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Wow. This list dislikes pop! I'll think hard before posting any music I make here again!

EDIT: I thought this list was about music/linux. Posting things here made with linux is a good thing. I think it really good the production quality and number of genres represented have gone up. We're a really small community, why bash others effords? No-one is trying to make "crap", but we're not into the same kinds of music. If I hear something here I don't like, I just don't comment, why should I discourage others unless I have something constructive to offer?

Hi, sorry for my late answer but since i'm not the op of that youtube channel i had to get in touch with the guy and ask. He doesn't know anything about it because the comment simply didn't appear. So it appers to be a tech mistake or a google-youtube censorship at least. And most of all, why can't I log in any longer on youtube-google under my As far as i know a google-youtube user doesn't have this kind of power so i think you should ask google-youtube team. If you post the fruit of your efforts on a public space, it is because you I perfectly agree with that, it's what makes posting stuff something good IMHO This list was my only channel to express my utter surprise and reach the You are wrong. You could reach the op (or people related to him) in many ways since there are a couple of links on the youtube channel (Facebook, Myspace) which are public and don't need any account registration or you could write me your concernings privately so i could contact the op and see if there have been any case of censorship. From what you have written it appers that you think it's a censorship case from the op or google-yotube team This looks hardly like a technical error but IMHO sentences like deliberate attempt at muting voices going against the consensus look a bit too strong for someone that doesn't know the facts yet. I don't give a crap that it was made on linux, for I know perfectly well Yes and also this "censorship case" should be since LAU appears to be a Linux Audio related list. I've posted this video because i think that music made with FLOSS can be of interest for this list and if, not considering the quality of the music, a product is technically good can help free software reputation to spread. Honestly i expected something (good or bad) more on the tech side that "your music sucks real bad".

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tech question : can you tell us a bit more about your workflow? First of all i'd like to start from a consideration: there's a big work to do before recording, even before placing microphones. You must have a clear view of the final result before starting with any operation IMHO. For this work i started listening to the demos and picturing in my mind the sound of this band, then i talked to the guys, change some song structure and arrangements. After this: Recording Drums: As you can hear from the song the drums sound a bit electronic. To obtain this result i placed few microphones (bass drum, snare, hi-hat, tom 1, tom 2, floor tom, two overheads A/B figure), this because i knew that i would have replaced the snare and the kick sound later so i didn't need great accuracy on those percussions. Bass: From the bass to the mixer and then sound card. Nothing special. Guitars: From the guitars to the mixer and then sound card. This is not a very common workflow, i'll explain later. Synths: I wrote the parts on Muse and used some soft synth and also used some external hard synth. Voice: We made a very hard work on the voice since we put many parts together to obtain a certain harmony. Then the singer recorded with a condenser microphone an at 4040 if i recall well Editing Since i wanted to obtain an overall electronic sound i wanted the instruments to play very "together" and tight so i did some surgical editing on the tracks with Ardour 2.8.11. I encountered some problem because it's well known that Ardour gets slow (and sometimes crashes) when working with many many regions. To avoid this i reduced the hystory to 10 steps, i often consolidated regions and do some "cleanup unused regions" as well. I also did some voice tuning with Fons Adriansen's Jretune. Once everything was perfectly tight with the grid i started reamping the bass and the guitars. Reamp Once i had the "perfect" guitars and bass takes, i sent the signals out from my sound card to a reamp box (i use this one http://www.radialeng.com/di-xamp.htm) and then to some amps. I recorded them in order to have the bass amp sound summed to the direct one and to have "bigger" guitars obtained with different amp sounds mixed together. Drums Replacing I did some drums replacing on the bass drum and the snare using ladspa-trigger. Synths Once the midi parts were well defined i sent them to soft (Yoshimi, Nekobee, amsynth for example) and hard synths (i had this Yamaha digital piano a Korg 01WFD and a Roland jp 8000) and recorded them into the Ardour session. Mix I mixed all the tracks together using many ladspa and lv2 plugins like Invada, Calf and others. Mastering I exported groups of tracks from the mixing sessions and imported them into a new one, then i used some soft eq and external compressor. and also the pitfalls you encounter when using linux apps (like this app Except for the Ardour issue explained above i didn't encounter many weird things. Hope this can be exaustive enough. Cheers -- Giorgio Baù *Sound engineer* T.Rex Studio www.trexstudio.com

on your site i saw that you are using ubuntu studio.

Ardour slow down a bit if I use considerable more than 40 Tracks and lots of plug-ins. And I do not get crashes that I could relate to the fact how big a project is.

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On 12/07/2011 09:54 PM, James Warden wrote: "your music sucks real bad. You have the technical means to produce I think that's rude. Pull your head in. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but what do expect in return from a statement like that?

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On 12/10/2011 10:52 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: I think they expect attention and the release of some emotion that they would not express in person. If they've had a rough day, why not go be nasty on the 'net. It's deplorable to me how nasty people can be just because they are anonymous on the Internet. Not just on YouTube, but everywhere, even on freenode help channels (particularly web coding channels for some reason), discouragement, insults and flaying are common. I try to communicate with people on the 'net as though i were actually looking them in the eyes.