4 Apr
2014
4 Apr
'14
8:15 a.m.
On 04/03/2014 09:58 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:25PM -1000, david wrote:
Thanks, only that's a musical, not an opera. ;-)
Of course, at the rate that English has been changing over the last
800-1000 years, by then our idea of English will probably be
incomprehensible to whoever's alive then ...
My guitar instructor in high school was lead guitarist in one of the
local bands of the time. He wrote a rock opera and performed it with his
band to get his Masters degree in Communications.
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
Who knows, maybe 300-400 years from know,
today's rock operas will be high
opera! Complete with the fat lady singing and scholarly musicologists
writing dissertations on the use of pinball machines as musical
instruments...
Ummm, it has already been done! Tommy. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_Tommy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo 
4 Apr
4 Apr
8:22 a.m.
New subject: Bitwig: what we can learn from it
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:15:29PM -1000, david wrote:
On 04/03/2014 09:58 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen it, but isn't Tommy continuously musical
with no (or very minimal) spoken dialogue, thereby making it an opera as distinct from a
musical which would have spoken dialogue interspersed with songs sung by the cast?
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:25PM -1000, david
wrote:
Thanks, only that's a musical, not an opera. ;-) Who knows, maybe 300-400 years from know,
today's rock operas will be high
opera! Complete with the fat lady singing and scholarly musicologists
writing dissertations on the use of pinball machines as musical
instruments...
Ummm, it has already been done! Tommy. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_Tommy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo 
10:51 a.m.
New subject: Bitwig: what we can learn from it
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:15:29PM -1000, david wrote:
On 04/03/2014 09:58 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_(album)
'... Tommy was the first musical work to be billed overtly as a rock
opera.'
*AND* he played pinball! Although, perhaps, not as an instrument. :)
--
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing." --- Malcolm X
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:25PM -1000, david
wrote:
Thanks, only that's a musical, not an opera. ;-) Who knows, maybe 300-400 years from know,
today's rock operas will be high
opera! Complete with the fat lady singing and scholarly musicologists
writing dissertations on the use of pinball machines as musical
instruments...
Ummm, it has already been done! Tommy. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_Tommy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo
6:51 p.m.
New subject: Bitwig: what we can learn from it
On 04/04/2014 12:50 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:15:29PM -1000, david wrote:
I think they used pinball machine sounds as part of things. Have any
musicologists turned their scholarly eyes in the direction of "Tommy"?
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
On 04/03/2014 09:58 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_(album)
'... Tommy was the first musical work to be billed overtly as a rock
opera.'
*AND* he played pinball! Although, perhaps, not as an instrument. :) On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:25PM -1000, david
wrote:
Thanks, only that's a musical, not an opera. ;-) Who knows, maybe 300-400 years from know,
today's rock operas will be high
opera! Complete with the fat lady singing and scholarly musicologists
writing dissertations on the use of pinball machines as musical
instruments...
Ummm, it has already been done! Tommy. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_Tommy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo 
5 Apr
5 Apr
9:44 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
Hi,
Wondering how far is A3 with MIDI. When I read the Internet it seems to
have quirks/bugs/crashes. As a musician you like to work with a tool in
which you can (easily) finish a musical project.
How is the situation now and what are the goals in near future?
Regards,
\r
9:50 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On 04/05/2014 11:44 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
Hi,
Wondering how far is A3 with MIDI. When I read the Internet it seems
to have quirks/bugs/crashes. As a musician you like to work with a
tool in which you can (easily) finish a musical project.
How is the situation now and what are the goals in near future?
Regards,
\r
Sorry, but took me 3 minuts to crash
(ardour-3.5.357~dfsg-1:5009): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add
property gtkmm__CustomObject_GnomeCanvasLineSet::y2 after class was
initialised
Segmentation fault
9:59 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On 04/05/2014 11:50 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
Sorry, but took me 3 minuts to crash
(ardour-3.5.357~dfsg-1:5009): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add
property gtkmm__CustomObject_GnomeCanvasLineSet::y2 after class was
initialised
Segmentation fault
On a positive note, I like the MIDI editing track and the fact
that is
has JACK MIDI and logical JACK routing possibilities per track (in
contrary to Qtractor).
\r
10:08 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On 04/05/2014 11:58 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
On 04/05/2014 11:50 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
> Sorry, but took me 3 minuts to crash
>
> (ardour-3.5.357~dfsg-1:5009): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add
> property gtkmm__CustomObject_GnomeCanvasLineSet::y2 after class was
> initialised
That's a bug in gtkmm, unrelated to the crash. There's already a bug
already filed on it, but it doesn't cause a problem and hence it did not
attract anyone's attention.
> Segmentation fault
http://ardour.org/debugging_ardour
The current state of MIDI Tracks in Ardour3 still leaves lots to be
desired. Midi will return to the center of attention after 3.6 is released.
On a positive note, I like the MIDI editing track and
the fact that is
has JACK MIDI and logical JACK routing possibilities per track (in
contrary to Qtractor).
\r
10:14 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On 04/05/2014 12:08 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
The current state of MIDI Tracks in Ardour3 still
leaves lots to be
desired. Midi will return to the center of attention after 3.6 is released.
Any
idea when 3.6 will be released?
10:56 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, rosea.grammostola <
rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 04/05/2014 12:08 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
No. Still working on the main new stuff there, fixing bugs. Also away in
Kyiv at present working on an ardour-related commercial project.
The current state of MIDI Tracks in Ardour3 still
leaves lots to be
desired. Midi will return to the center of attention after 3.6 is
released.
Any idea when 3.6 will be released?
11:03 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On 04/05/2014 12:56 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, rosea.grammostola
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com <mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 04/05/2014 12:08 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
The current state of MIDI Tracks in Ardour3 still leaves lots
to be
desired. Midi will return to the center of attention after 3.6
is released.
Any idea when 3.6 will be released?
No. Still working on the main new stuff there, fixing bugs. Also away
in Kyiv at present working on an ardour-related commercial project.
Hm Interesting times to be in Kyiv...
You've to find a commercial partner who is interested in MIDI mainly...
:) Good MIDI sequencers are very rare on Linux.
\r
7 Apr
7 Apr
8:10 a.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
Maybe a bit OT: While I do not know ardour, what MIDI features are you
missing that others like rosegarden/muse/qtractor... are not providing?
Just out of curiosity, as I am missing a goog step sequencer, even
though qmidiarp may be getting there someday, as it has potential for a
true killer app.
You've to find a commercial partner who is
interested in MIDI mainly...
:) Good MIDI sequencers are very rare on Linux.
\r
5 Apr
5 Apr
12:53 p.m.
New subject: How far is Ardour3 with MIDI? (Bitwig: what we can learn from it)
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:44 AM, rosea.grammostola <
rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Wondering how far is A3 with MIDI. When I read the Internet it seems to
have quirks/bugs/crashes. As a musician you like to work with a tool in
which you can (easily) finish a musical project.
How is the situation now and what are the goals in near future?
I use Ardour3 MIDI all of the time. It's not perfect yet but, coupled with
the video timeline, is excellent for film scoring. I even abandoned
Rosegarden in favor of using Ardour3 for MIDI, especially because
Rosegarden's CC automation is very buggy and next to useless.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
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