10 May
2007
10 May
'07
2:20 p.m.
Hi!
The aim is to record a vocal + an acoustic guitar in home studio. As for mics themselfs,
a decision is done (it will be russian Oktava MK-219). Now, mic preamp must be selected.
There are two "main streams" - tube preamps (ART TPS II, Nady TMP-2 and such in
this
price category). But there are "not-tube" variants also. The thing is, I
don't know what
to prefer. Thinking logically, it is worth to avoid any "tube excitations"
because
(I suggest) all "tube warmings" or such may be added, if needed, during a
mastering.
What can you say?
Andrew
10 May
10 May
7:44 p.m.
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:20:55PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
The aim is to record a vocal + an acoustic guitar in
home studio. As for mics themselfs,
a decision is done (it will be russian Oktava MK-219). Now, mic preamp must be selected.
There are two "main streams" - tube preamps (ART TPS II, Nady TMP-2 and such in
this
price category). But there are "not-tube" variants also. The thing is, I
don't know what
to prefer. Thinking logically, it is worth to avoid any "tube excitations"
because
(I suggest) all "tube warmings" or such may be added, if needed, during a
mastering.
If a tube preamp sounds better than a solid state one that means that the solid-
state one was badly designed. Nothing more, and all the rest is marketing hype.
--
FA
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7:59 p.m.
=========== On Friday 11 May 2007 Fons Adriaensen wrote: ===========
If a tube preamp sounds better than a solid state one
that means that the solid-
state one was badly designed. Nothing more, and all the rest is marketing hype.
Hi, Fons!
If I guess well, many so called "tube preamp" are all SS except for one tube
exciter stage. I hope, "neutral" exciter position excludes the tube stage
from a sound chain (I can modify all other SS parts if feel need). The thing is,
I found the only micamp inside acceptable price range (two-mic, ~$200) from local
dealers (ART TPS II), and this one is called as "tube" :-)
Andrew
10:13 p.m.
On 5/10/07, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
The aim is to record a vocal + an acoustic guitar in
home studio. As for mics themselfs,
a decision is done (it will be russian Oktava MK-219). Now, mic preamp must be selected.
There are two "main streams" - tube preamps (ART TPS II, Nady TMP-2 and such in
this
price category). But there are "not-tube" variants also. The thing is, I
don't know what
to prefer. Thinking logically, it is worth to avoid any "tube excitations"
because
(I suggest) all "tube warmings" or such may be added, if needed, during a
mastering.
Tube amps may not be the best choice for vocals... they can make them
*too* warm, in my experience. They are useful for recording drums or
miking steel string acoustic guitars, helps keep them from sounding
too shrill (especially the cymbals), and of course, tube pre-amps when
going direct with a guitar (acoustic or electric) sound the best, in
my opinion.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
11 May
11 May
9:34 p.m.
Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
The aim is to record a vocal + an acoustic guitar in home studio. As for mics themselfs,
a decision is done (it will be russian Oktava MK-219). Now, mic preamp must be selected.
There are two "main streams" - tube preamps (ART TPS II, Nady TMP-2 and such in
this
price category). But there are "not-tube" variants also. The thing is, I
don't know what
to prefer. Thinking logically, it is worth to avoid any "tube excitations"
because
(I suggest) all "tube warmings" or such may be added, if needed, during a
mastering.
Well, it would be nice if you could borrow the equipment and do some
comparisons. It's pretty hard to guess the results.
As an alternative, get a preamp that allows you to blend a tube input
stage and a solid state input stage and use variable proportions of
each. I've a Studio Projects VTB-1 :
http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/vtb1.html
It's reasonably good, it's about $120 online. You can tell it's not a
piece of equipment worth thousands of $$$, but for what I need it's OK.
Of course, you can always get a linear, solid state preamp such as the
FMR Audio RNP8380 (a.k.a. the Really Nice Preamp)...
http://www.fmraudio.com/RNP8380.htm
...and process the track with some kind of "tube filter" later. But
first make sure that the end result is indeed what you need - i.e., do
tests, listen carefully, compare, take notes.
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
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