17 Feb
2007
17 Feb
'07
1:03 p.m.
Hi
I wanted to try out the zyn in lv2, however first step (making
lv2dynparam) fails (i did "bootstrap" + "./configure"):
atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam$ make
make[1]: Entering directory
`/mnt/data/atte/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam'
cd . && autoheader
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/data/atte/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam'
cd . \
&& CONFIG_FILES= CONFIG_HEADERS=[config.h] \
/bin/sh ./config.status
config.status: error: cannot find input file: [config.h].in
make: *** [stamp-h] Error 1
Any ideas?
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17 Feb
17 Feb
4:32 p.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
I'm not sure what went wrong with autohell, but my guess is that your
autotools are not respecting AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR macro specified in
configure.ac.
I use:
autoconf-2.61
libtool-1.5.22
automake-1.10
What are your version of auto tools?
If anybody in this list knows why autotools can fail like this, please
share your thoughts. Actually lv2dynparam is my first project that uses
autotools and my experience is very weak.
Hi
I wanted to try out the zyn in lv2, however first step (making
lv2dynparam) fails (i did "bootstrap" + "./configure"):
atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam$ make
make[1]: Entering directory
`/mnt/data/atte/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam'
cd . && autoheader
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/data/atte/music/seq/lovsang/mixes/mp3/zynjacku/lv2dynparam'
cd . \
&& CONFIG_FILES= CONFIG_HEADERS=[config.h] \
/bin/sh ./config.status
config.status: error: cannot find input file: [config.h].in
make: *** [stamp-h] Error 1
Any ideas?
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18 Feb
18 Feb
3:40 a.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
I use:
autoconf-2.61
libtool-1.5.22
automake-1.10
autoconf 2.61
libtool 1.5.22
automake 1.4-p6
Upgrading automake to 1.10 made it work. Hope that doesn't break other
build things. Now lv2dynparam builds, however zyn fails:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ make
Generating dependency for lv2plugin.c to lv2plugin.d ...
lv2plugin.c:24:17: error: lv2.h: No such file or directory
Compiling lv2plugin.c to lv2plugin.o ...
lv2plugin.c:24:17: error: lv2.h: No such file or directory
In file included from lv2plugin.c:26:
zynadd.h:25: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynadd_instantiate'
zynadd.h:33: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
zynadd.h:39: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
zynadd.h:44: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
In file included from lv2plugin.c:27:
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1/lv2dynparam/plugin.h:37: error:
expected ')' before 'instance'
lv2plugin.c:29: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'g_lv2_plugins'
lv2plugin.c: In function 'lv2_initialise':
lv2plugin.c:49: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before '*' token
lv2plugin.c:49: error: 'descr_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)
lv2plugin.c:49: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
lv2plugin.c:49: error: for each function it appears in.)
lv2plugin.c:53: error: 'g_lv2_plugins' undeclared (first use in this
function)
lv2plugin.c: At top level:
lv2plugin.c:62: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before '*' token
make: *** [lv2plugin.o] Error 1
However:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ slocate lv2.h
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/.svn/text-base/lv2.h.svn-base
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
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12:39 p.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
Upgrading automake to 1.10 made it work.
great!
Hope that doesn't break other build things.
your system may provide script for switching current automake
version. IIRC at at least Debian does.
Now lv2dynparam builds, however zyn fails:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ make
Generating dependency for lv2plugin.c to lv2plugin.d ...
lv2plugin.c:24:17: error: lv2.h: No such file or directory
Compiling lv2plugin.c to lv2plugin.o ...
lv2plugin.c:24:17: error: lv2.h: No such file or directory
In file included from lv2plugin.c:26:
zynadd.h:25: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynadd_instantiate'
zynadd.h:33: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
zynadd.h:39: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
zynadd.h:44: error: expected ')' before 'instance'
In file included from lv2plugin.c:27:
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1/lv2dynparam/plugin.h:37: error:
expected ')' before 'instance'
lv2plugin.c:29: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__' before 'g_lv2_plugins'
lv2plugin.c: In function 'lv2_initialise':
lv2plugin.c:49: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__' before '*' token
lv2plugin.c:49: error: 'descr_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)
lv2plugin.c:49: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
lv2plugin.c:49: error: for each function it appears in.)
lv2plugin.c:53: error: 'g_lv2_plugins' undeclared (first use in this
function)
lv2plugin.c: At top level:
lv2plugin.c:62: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__' before '*' token
make: *** [lv2plugin.o] Error 1
However:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ slocate lv2.h
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/.svn/text-base/lv2.h.svn-base
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
lv2plugin.c tells compiler to include lv2.h from same directory. lv2.h
should be in your zyn repository checkout. Can you confirm this please?
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1:05 p.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
The only instance of lv2.h I found on my computer are the ones listed above!
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ ls *.h
addnote.h filter_base.h lv2-midifunctions.h
addsynth.h filter.h lv2-miditype.h
addsynth_internal.h filter_parameters.h lv2plugin.h
analog_filter.h formant_filter.h oscillator.h
common.h globals.h resonance.h
Controller.h lfo.h sv_filter.h
envelope.h lfo_parameters.h util.h
envelope_parameters.h list.h zynadd.h
fft_wrapper.h log.h zynadd_internal.h
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ ls *.c
log.c lv2plugin.c util.c zynadd.c zynadd_dynparam.c
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atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ slocate lv2.h
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/.svn/text-base/lv2.h.svn-base
/home/atte/software/zynjacku/lv2dynparam/lv2.h
lv2plugin.c tells compiler to include lv2.h from same directory. lv2.h
should be in your zyn repository checkout. Can you confirm this please?
3:58 p.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
The only instance of lv2.h I found on my computer are
the ones listed above!
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ ls *.h
addnote.h filter_base.h lv2-midifunctions.h
addsynth.h filter.h lv2-miditype.h
addsynth_internal.h filter_parameters.h lv2plugin.h
analog_filter.h formant_filter.h oscillator.h
common.h globals.h resonance.h
Controller.h lfo.h sv_filter.h
envelope.h lfo_parameters.h util.h
envelope_parameters.h list.h zynadd.h
fft_wrapper.h log.h zynadd_internal.h
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zyn$ ls *.c
log.c lv2plugin.c util.c zynadd.c zynadd_dynparam.c
I think I found the problem. Fixed in revision 73. Please tell me if
that fixes the problem for you. Thank you for the feedback so far.
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6:27 p.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
I think I found the problem. Fixed in revision 73.
Please tell me if
that fixes the problem for you. Thank you for the feedback so far.
Yes, that's much better, thanks. Now it seems that I'm through building
(see below) but then how do I actually run the thing? Tried what you
suggested "<pathto>/zynjacku.py http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0"quot;, but:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./zynjacku.py", line 22, in ?
import zynjacku
File "/home/atte/software/zynjacku/zynjacku/zynjacku.py", line 26, in ?
import phat
ImportError: No module named phat
If that's the same phat as used in specimen, I do have it installed,
since I build specimen from source, but it seems I'm missing a python
module, right? My phat is installed through apt-get:
ajstrup:~# apt-get install libphat0-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
libphat0-dev is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 52 not upgraded.
Anyways, here's what I did when building lv2dynparam:
in directory "lv2dynparam"
"bootstrap; ./configure; make; sudo make install"
in directory "zyn":
"make", which produced a zyn.so, should I do something with that?
in directory "zynjacku":
nothing since I figured the supplied .py might work. I tried "make", but
that failed like this (only the end):
engine.c:132: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_get_type'
engine.c:151: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_start_jack'
engine.c:228: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c: In function 'jackmidi2lv2midi':
engine.c:269: error: 'jack_midi_event_t' undeclared (first use in this
function)
engine.c:269: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
engine.c:269: error: for each function it appears in.)
engine.c:269: error: expected ';' before 'input_event'
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
engine.c:278: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_get_event_count'
engine.c:285: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_event_get'
engine.c:285: error: 'input_event' undeclared (first use in this function)
engine.c: In function 'jack_process_cb':
engine.c:324: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'jack_midi_in'
engine.c:324: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'lv2_midi_buffer'
engine.c:327: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:327: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:329: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:329: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__mptr'
engine.c:329: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
engine.c:329: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:331: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:333: warning: implicit declaration of function
'lv2dynparam_host_realtime_run'
engine.c:333: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:337: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:339: warning: implicit declaration of function
'slv2_instance_connect_port'
engine.c:340: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:341: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:342: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:346: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:349: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:350: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:351: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:355: warning: implicit declaration of function 'slv2_instance_run'
engine.c:355: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c: At top level:
engine.c:365: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:384: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:398: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:421: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_get_sample_rate'
make: *** [engine.o] Error 1
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7:22 p.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
Now it seems that I'm through
building (see below) but then how do I actually run the thing? Tried
what you suggested "<pathto>/zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0"quot;, but:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./zynjacku.py", line 22, in ?
import zynjacku
File "/home/atte/software/zynjacku/zynjacku/zynjacku.py", line 26, in ?
import phat
ImportError: No module named phat
If that's the same phat as used in specimen, I do have it installed,
since I build specimen from source, but it seems I'm missing a python
module, right? My phat is installed through apt-get:
ajstrup:~# apt-get install libphat0-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
libphat0-dev is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 52 not upgraded.
yes, it is same PHAT. Chances are that you have python bindings for PHAT
as separate package.
Anyways, here's what I did when building
lv2dynparam:
in directory "lv2dynparam"
"bootstrap; ./configure; make; sudo make install"
in directory "zyn":
"make", which produced a zyn.so, should I do something with that?
in directory "zynjacku":
nothing since I figured the supplied .py might work. I tried "make",
but that failed like this (only the end):
engine.c:132: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_get_type'
engine.c:151: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_start_jack'
engine.c:228: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c: In function 'jackmidi2lv2midi':
engine.c:269: error: 'jack_midi_event_t' undeclared (first use in this
function)
engine.c:269: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
engine.c:269: error: for each function it appears in.)
engine.c:269: error: expected ';' before 'input_event'
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
engine.c:278: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_get_event_count'
engine.c:285: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_event_get'
engine.c:285: error: 'input_event' undeclared (first use in this function)
engine.c: In function 'jack_process_cb':
engine.c:324: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'jack_midi_in'
engine.c:324: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'lv2_midi_buffer'
engine.c:327: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:327: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:329: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:329: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__mptr'
engine.c:329: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
engine.c:329: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:331: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:333: warning: implicit declaration of function
'lv2dynparam_host_realtime_run'
engine.c:333: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:337: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:339: warning: implicit declaration of function
'slv2_instance_connect_port'
engine.c:340: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:341: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:342: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left_port'
engine.c:346: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:349: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:350: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:351: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_right_port'
engine.c:355: warning: implicit declaration of function 'slv2_instance_run'
engine.c:355: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c: At top level:
engine.c:365: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:384: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:398: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:421: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_get_sample_rate'
make: *** [engine.o] Error 1
What version of gobject library are you using? Is
engine.c:132: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynjacku_engine_get_type'
the first error you got? Any errors about "unable to include header"?
You cannot run zynjacku without first building the C engine that does
the realtime work.
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28 Feb
28 Feb
6:05 a.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
yes, it is same PHAT. Chances are that you have python
bindings for PHAT
as separate package.
* The installation should be documented. A simple *not autogenerated*
INSTALL (in the root of lv2dynparam, zynjacku and zyn) with a short
explanation would suffice.
* For some reason zyn complains that I haven't set LV2_PATH (although I
have, I presume it's an environment variable). So I cp -R'ed the
zynadd.lv2 dir to my ~/.lv2 dir:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/phat-0.4.0$ ll -R ~/.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2:
total 4,0K
drwxr-xr-x 2 atte atte 4,0K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2/zynadd.lv2:
total 324K
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 207 2007-02-28 10:41 manifest.ttl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 atte atte 309K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 940 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.ttl
* I installed the latest phat + pyphat from source, but (after starting
jack, nothing else) I get this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
zynjacku library is missing lv2dynparam constants.
Hope you could help me the last part of the way!
A few questions about await me once the thingy is running:
* Will I be able to load original zynaddsubfx patches?
* Are the realtime problems of zynaddsubfx still there?
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6:51 a.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
* The installation should be documented. A simple *not
autogenerated*
* INSTALL (in the root of lv2dynparam, zynjacku and zyn) with a short
* explanation would suffice.
I agree. I just want to concentrate on code until it is more complete. I
accept any help, feedback, documentaiton, code. Your feedback in
particular is very valuable.
* For some reason zyn complains that I haven't set
LV2_PATH (although
* I have, I presume it's an environment variable). So I cp -R'ed the
* zynadd.lv2 dir to my ~/.lv2 dir:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/phat-0.4.0$ ll -R ~/.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2:
total 4,0K
drwxr-xr-x 2 atte atte 4,0K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2/zynadd.lv2:
total 324K
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 207 2007-02-28 10:41 manifest.ttl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 atte atte 309K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 940 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.ttl
Current Makefile hackery installs the plugin into LV2_PATH. Have you
"export"-ed the LV2_PATH variable?
I plan to switch zyn and zynjacku projects to autotools or scons in
future.
* I installed the latest phat + pyphat from source,
but (after
* starting jack, nothing else)
Yes, this is best to do (I guess you mean SVN). I should talk with Loki
to release newer version of PHAT. This will help jack_mixer too. Loki
you read?
I get this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
zynjacku library is missing lv2dynparam constants.
Hope you could help me the last part of the way!
Recently someone in IRC (maybe you) had problem with those constants
failing to autogenerate. This causes window without controls. So I added
check to detect this at start. However the guy left and I still don't
know what causes it. Can you please run this command from within
zynjacku directory:
./gen_py_constants.py `pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
Do you get any output?
gen_py_constants.py is executed several times, with different regex,
From Makefile. Result is collected in init_py_constants.c
I guess that file is empty for some strange reason?
Also, once I got report that gen_py_constants.py is not executable. That
was strage to me because AFAIK subversion client should put +x to the
file when it is checked out. Please check if gen_py_constants.py is
executable and if not, make it executable. And tell me :)
A few questions about await me once the thingy is
running:
* Will I be able to load original zynaddsubfx patches?
ATM, no. This feature is in my plan however, as "import" in zynjacku. Of
course it will load only adsynth-zynadd settings until other synths are
ported too. But for this to happen I need to implement project save/load
in zynjacku. With LASH support. And maybe publishing ready-for-use
patches/presets for zynjacku, including ones converted from original
zynaddsubfx patches, is good idea.
* Are the realtime problems of zynaddsubfx still
there?
I continue to dig the code and it is still work in progress. Howver, you
should feel the progress I've made right now. I particular zynadd has
no lock (mutex) at all. I removed lots of memory allocations in audio
processing context, but this is not complete yet. The results I get
here are quite amazing, I never got any "clicks" or JACK
crashes. They are caused by sleeping in realtime context. However JACK
crashing because of an app seems like bug in JACK itself to me, but I
may be wrong.
--
Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0>
7:40 a.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
Nope, grabbed it from
http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6271
I should talk with Loki
Ah, I see.
That sounds promising! Looking forward to getting it running!
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quintet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
Current Makefile hackery installs the plugin into
LV2_PATH. Have you
"export"-ed the LV2_PATH variable?
Sure:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ echo $LV2_PATH
/usr/lib/lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2:/home/atte/.lv2
I plan to switch zyn and zynjacku projects to
autotools or scons in
future.
Seems like a good plan :-)
* I installed
the latest phat + pyphat from source, but (after
* starting jack, nothing else)
Yes, this is best to do (I guess you mean SVN). to release newer version of PHAT. This will help
jack_mixer too. Loki
you read?
First I got this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./gen_py_constants.py
`pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
-bash: ./gen_py_constants.py: Permission denied
After making doing chmod +x I got:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./gen_py_constants.py
`pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_FLOAT_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_floa…)at"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_INT_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_int&…)nt"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_NOTE_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_note…)te"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_STRING_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_stri…)ng"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_FILENAME_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_file…)me"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_BOOLEAN_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_bool…)an"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_ENUM_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_enum…)um"));
I get this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
zynjacku library is missing lv2dynparam constants.
Hope you could help me the last part of the way!
Recently someone in IRC (maybe you) had problem with those constants
failing to autogenerate. This causes window without controls. So I added
check to detect this at start. However the guy left and I still don't
know what causes it. Can you please run this command from within
zynjacku directory:
./gen_py_constants.py `pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
Do you get any output? gen_py_constants.py is executed several times, with
different regex,
From Makefile. Result is collected in init_py_constants.c
I guess that file is empty for some strange reason?
It's not even there. Note that I didn't run make in the zynjacku
directory before (should I?). Now I tried and got this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ make
Package libslv2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libslv2.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libslv2' found
Package libslv2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libslv2.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libslv2' found
gcc -c -g -I/usr/include/python2.4 -Wall -Werror -D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC
engine.c
-o engine.o
engine.c:26:23: error: slv2/slv2.h: No such file or directory
engine.c:28:27: error: jack/midiport.h: No such file or directory
engine.c:29:25: error: glib-object.h: No such file or directory
In file included from engine.c:30:
/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam/host.h:62: error: expected ';', ',' or
')' before
'*' token
In file included from engine.c:37:
synth.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'type
def'
synth.h:42: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'GObject'
synth.h:47: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'GObjectClass'
synth.h:52: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynj
acku_synth_get_type'
synth.h:55: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynj
acku_synth_construct'
synth.h:61: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:64: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynj
acku_synth_supports_generic_ui'
synth.h:68: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zynj
acku_synth_supports_custom_ui'
synth.h:73: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:77: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:81: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:85: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:89: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:93: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:99: error: expected ')' before '*' token
synth.h:105: error: expected ')' before '*' token
In file included from engine.c:38:
engine.h:27: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'G_B
EGIN_DECLS'
engine.h:42: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'GObject'
engine.h:47: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'GObjectClass'
engine.h:52: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zyn
jacku_engine_get_type'
engine.h:55: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zyn
jacku_engine_start_jack'
engine.h:61: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.h:65: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.h:70: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.h:74: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zyn
jacku_engine_get_sample_rate'
engine.h:79: error: expected ')' before '*' token
In file included from engine.c:39:
gtk2gui.h:26: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'ty
pedef'
gtk2gui.h:30: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zy
njacku_gtk2gui_init'
gtk2gui.h:37: error: expected ')' before 'gtk2gui_handle'
gtk2gui.h:41: error: expected ')' before 'gtk2gui_handle'
gtk2gui.h:45: error: expected ')' before 'gtk2gui_handle'
gtk2gui.h:50: error: expected ')' before 'gtk2gui_handle'
gtk2gui.h:55: error: expected ')' before 'gtk2gui_handle'
In file included from engine.c:41:
zynjacku.h:51: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'GObject'
zynjacku.h:56: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'gboolean'
zynjacku.h:76: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'gboolean'
zynjacku.h:87: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'z
ynjacku_plugin_repo_lookup_by_uri'
engine.c:52: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:88: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:106: error: expected ')' before 'class_ptr'
engine.c:119: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:133: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zy
njacku_engine_get_type'
engine.c:152: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zy
njacku_engine_start_jack'
engine.c:229: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c: In function 'jackmidi2lv2midi':
engine.c:270: error: 'jack_midi_event_t' undeclared (first use in this
function)
engine.c:270: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
engine.c:270: error: for each function it appears in.)
engine.c:270: error: expected ';' before 'input_event'
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
engine.c:279: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_get_event_cou
nt'
engine.c:286: warning: implicit declaration of function
'jack_midi_event_get'
engine.c:286: error: 'input_event' undeclared (first use in this function)
engine.c: In function 'jack_process_cb':
engine.c:325: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'jack_midi_in'
engine.c:325: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'lv2_midi_buff
er'
engine.c:328: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:328: error: 'struct zynjacku_engine' has no member named
'plugins'
engine.c:330: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:330: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__mptr'
engine.c:330: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
engine.c:330: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'siblings'
engine.c:332: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:334: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'dynparams'
engine.c:338: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left
_port'
engine.c:340: warning: implicit declaration of function
'slv2_instance_connect_p
ort'
engine.c:341: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:342: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left
_port'
engine.c:343: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_left
_port'
engine.c:347: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_righ
t_port'
engine.c:350: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c:351: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_righ
t_port'
engine.c:352: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'audio_out_righ
t_port'
engine.c:356: warning: implicit declaration of function 'slv2_instance_run'
engine.c:356: error: 'struct zynjacku_synth' has no member named
'instance'
engine.c: At top level:
engine.c:366: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:385: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:399: error: expected ')' before '*' token
engine.c:422: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or
'__attribute__'
before 'zy
njacku_engine_get_sample_rate'
make: *** [engine.o] Error 1
Basically the first thing it complains is it's unable to find
libslv2.pc. And sure it's nowhere on my system (according to slocate
with a fresh slocatedb
Also, once I got report that gen_py_constants.py is
not executable. That
was strage to me because AFAIK subversion client should put +x to the
file when it is checked out. Please check if gen_py_constants.py is
executable and if not, make it executable. And tell me :)
As mentioned it wasn't executable but I changed that...
* Will I be
able to load original zynaddsubfx patches?
ATM, no. This feature is in my plan however, as "import" in zynjacku. Of
course it will load only adsynth-zynadd settings until other synths are
ported too. * Are the
realtime problems of zynaddsubfx still there?
<snip>I particular zynadd has
no lock (mutex) at all. I removed lots of memory allocations in audio
processing context, but this is not complete yet. The results I get
here are quite amazing, I never got any "clicks" or JACK
crashes.
9:13 a.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
You should. That will build the engine.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
"echo" does not show if variable exported, try "env|grep LV2_PATH"
But since you have colon separeted list cp will not do good things.
Current Makefile hackery installs the plugin into
LV2_PATH. Have you
"export"-ed the LV2_PATH variable?
Sure:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ echo $LV2_PATH
/usr/lib/lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2:/home/atte/.lv2 First I got this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./gen_py_constants.py
`pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
-bash: ./gen_py_constants.py: Permission denied
Uhm, I'll investigate that
After making doing chmod +x I got:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./gen_py_constants.py
`pkg-config --variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1`
'^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_FLOAT_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_floa…)at"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_INT_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_int&…)nt"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_NOTE_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_note…)te"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_STRING_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_stri…)ng"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_FILENAME_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_file…)me"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_BOOLEAN_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_bool…)an"));
PyModule_AddObject(m, "LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_TYPE_ENUM_URI",
PyString_FromString("http://home.gna.org/lv2dynparam/v1#parameter_enum…)um"));
good
gen_py_constants.py is executed several times, with different regex,
From Makefile. Result is collected in init_py_constants.c
I guess that file is empty for some strange reason?
It's not even there. Note that I didn't run make in the zynjacku
directory before (should I?). Now I tried and got this: atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ make
Package libslv2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libslv2.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libslv2' found
Package libslv2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libslv2.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libslv2' found
gcc -c -g -I/usr/include/python2.4 -Wall -Werror -D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC
engine.c
[snip]
Basically the first thing it complains is it's unable to find
libslv2.pc. And sure it's nowhere on my system (according to slocate
with a fresh slocatedb
Yes, you need slv2 library. It is a "host library to make using LV2
plugins as simple as possible". You can checkout it from Dave
Robillard's repository. AFAIK it depends from raul library from same
repository. There is top level infrastructure that will build all things
From the repo but I personally don't use it. Repository URL is:
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad
checkout URL for raul only:
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad/raul
checkout URL for SLV2 only:
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad/slv2
If you checkout the whole repository, you will get patchage and ingen too.
--
Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0>
9:41 a.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>
writes:
Ok (+ raptor + rasqal). Now please don't tell me I have to install jack
from source (this would potentiolly break my whole system), my version
is the one in debian/unstable:
ajstrup:~# apt-cache show libjack0.100.0-dev | grep Version
Version: 0.101.1-2
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ make
gcc -c -g -I/usr/include/python2.4 -Wall -Werror -D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/pygtk-2.0 engine.c -o engine.o
engine.c:28:27: error: jack/midiport.h: No such file or directory
Also I got this from slv2:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/slv2$ ./configure
<snip>
checking for JACK... no
<snip>
SLV2 build configuration:
Building JACK clients: no
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quintet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
Basically the first thing it complains is
it's unable to find
libslv2.pc. And sure it's nowhere on my system (according to slocate
with a fresh slocatedb
Yes, you need slv2 library.
10:28 a.m.
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> writes:
Ok (+ raptor + rasqal). Now please don't tell me I
have to install
jack from source (this would potentiolly break my whole system), my
version is the one in debian/unstable:
ajstrup:~# apt-cache show libjack0.100.0-dev | grep Version
Version: 0.101.1-2
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ make
gcc -c -g -I/usr/include/python2.4 -Wall -Werror -D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/lv2dynparam-1
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/pygtk-2.0 engine.c -o engine.o
engine.c:28:27: error: jack/midiport.h: No such file or directory
zynjacku is JACK application and thus uses JACK MIDI. Unfortunately JACK
MIDI appeared in version 0.102.20.
No idea what is right way to handle this on debian system. I'd first try
to make new JACK package that satisfies app dependencies (is it
possible?). If this fails, I'd try to "force remove" system package
without autoremoving dependant apps, eighter by some smart package
manager option or by installing from source over packaged version. I
remember there were recent discussion about jack/debian problems in
jack mailing list (or maybe lad or lau?) that may give you more
hints. My impresion is that debian/jack ppl don't work well togheter
("why: is another question). Unfortunately debian linux audio users are
sufferening from it. IMO, given the debian popularity this is major
issue and both parties should express their vision to problem. Obviously
"don't use debian/jack" statements are not helpful to users. 0.102.20 is
5 months old and it is shame that debian unstable has not packaged
it. On other hand JACK ppl should give users sane and working solution
to debian problem. I know strictly speaking this is packager's job but
that job is obviously not that popular that I'd want it to be. So
upstream ppl should be more tolerant to user problems.
If you choose to use 0.102.20 (latest released) instead of SVN version,
you will need to uncomment line 44 in engine.c because there is minor
unreleased JACK MIDI API change that is not released yet.
Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a must in my
vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too. If for some
reason ALSA MIDI must be used, then ALSA audio API should be used
too. Current domiating "ALSA MIDI/JACK audio" approach is just not
coherent, does not give good results (sync) and forces implementing
shits in code instead of doing something more creative.
Also I got this from slv2:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/slv2$ ./configure
<snip>
checking for JACK... no
<snip>
SLV2 build configuration:
Building JACK clients: no
No idea what exactly slv2 configure script checks. Maybe it checks for
"suitable" version. That apart I see no need to check for JACK at
all. After all it should be usable for JACK-less hosts too. Dave?
--
Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0>
1 Mar
1 Mar
6:07 a.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
zynjacku is JACK application and thus uses JACK MIDI.
Unfortunately JACK
MIDI appeared in version 0.102.20.
Thanks, but no thanks...
I'll stop it here (I love playing music too much to spend time on
blowing up my box). I plan to install debian/stable on another partition
when that's released. Maybe I'll build jack from svn on top of that then...
I'll get back if (when!) I get into trouble at that point. Thanks for
your help so far.
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quintet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
2 Mar
2 Mar
1:41 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a must
in my
vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too.
Really?
I haven't yet used it, and think alsa midi works just fine. Exactly
where (real world scenarios, please) is jack-midi superior the the
degree that the current approach is pointless?
And I'd also like to hear a quick hand up: Who's using jack midi
exclusively and who's using alsa midi?
--
peace, love & harmony
Atte
http://www.atte.dk | quintet: http://www.anagrammer.dk
| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
1:57 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 18:40 +0100, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
Depends on what you mean with "alsa midi". Obviously no one who has
external MIDI gear can use JACK MIDI exclusively since JACK doesn't have
its own hardware interfaces. If you mean "alsa midi" == the ALSA
sequencer, then I am not using it - I've actually blocked the snd-seq
module (by putting 'install snd-seq /bin/true' in a modprobe config
file) to stop it from interfering with the MIDI part of my hacked-up
jackd ALSA driver. I'm happily using Dino, Zyn, Specimen, Ghostess, and
miscellaneous unreleased software with JACK MIDI ports only.
--ll
Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a
must in my
vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too.
Really?
I haven't yet used it, and think alsa midi works just fine. Exactly
where (real world scenarios, please) is jack-midi superior the the
degree that the current approach is pointless?
And I'd also like to hear a quick hand up: Who's using jack midi
exclusively and who's using alsa midi? 
2:07 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
On 3/2/07, Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
YES.
Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a
must in my
vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too.
Really? I haven't yet used it, and think alsa midi works
just fine. Exactly
where (real world scenarios, please) is jack-midi superior the the
degree that the current approach is pointless?
1) Freewheeling jack mode. Try to do
a faster-than-realtime midi
project mixdown to audio without jackmidi and show your results.
2) With alsa midi (or any other non-sample syncronous midi transport)
every application in fact implements jackmidi by itself (by having a
non-trivial midi handling thread).
3) Even if 2) is OK for you, it can't reach jackmidi in terms of
inter-application timing.
And I'd also like to hear a quick hand up:
Who's using jack midi
exclusively and who's using alsa midi?
jackmidi still lacks that range of
software that alsamidi has.
Nonetheless, starting a new midi project without jackmidi support is a sabotage.
IMHO.
Dmitry.
2:54 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
Dmitry Baikov wrote:
jackmidi still lacks that range of software that
alsamidi has.
Nonetheless, starting a new midi project without jackmidi support is a
sabotage.
Basically I'm convinced to the point where I'll give it a go on my new
debian/stable (whenever that's released) partition...
Finally, which of the following software supports (potentially with a
patch) jack midi:
ardour
muse
zynaddsubfx
specimen
csound
ams
amsynth
seq24
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3:10 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
Hi,
On Friday 02 March 2007 19:51, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Dmitry Baikov wrote:
muse-1.0pre1 has support but apart from that you might find it a bit (more)
broken.
jackmidi still lacks that range of software that
alsamidi has.
Nonetheless, starting a new midi project without jackmidi support is a
sabotage.
Basically I'm convinced to the point where I'll give it a go on my new
debian/stable (whenever that's released) partition...
Finally, which of the following software supports (potentially with a
patch) jack midi:
ardour
muse zynaddsubfx
there's a patch somewhere, right?
There's also a mangled version as a MusE plugin in 1.0 but that that's
probably beside the point.
Dunno about the rest...
Regards,
Robert
specimen
csound
ams
amsynth
seq24
3:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
Robert Jonsson wrote:
There's also a mangled version as a MusE plugin in
1.0 but that that's
probably beside the point.
That's interesting, esp since I use both heavily. A few question:
1) Any ETA on a stable 1.0 muse?
2) Has some/all/none of the real time problems with zynaddsubfx been
addressed?
3) Will I be able to load all my original zyn 2.1 patches?
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peace, love & harmony
Atte
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| compositions: http://www.atte.dk/compositions
3:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:51:06PM +0100, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Dmitry Baikov wrote:
specimen in svn and 0.5.2rc2 (coming soon.)
-Eric Rz.
jackmidi still lacks that range of software that
alsamidi has.
Nonetheless, starting a new midi project without jackmidi support is a
sabotage.
Basically I'm convinced to the point where I'll give it a go on my new
debian/stable (whenever that's released) partition...
Finally, which of the following software supports (potentially with a
patch) jack midi:
ardour
muse
zynaddsubfx
specimen 
2:09 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 06:40:15PM +0100, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
>Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a must in my
>vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too.
Really?
No point in said vision. Outside there is a point: it works right
now without a hasle.
I haven't yet used it, and think alsa midi works
just fine. Exactly
where (real world scenarios, please) is jack-midi superior the the
degree that the current approach is pointless?
Sample synchronous playback: the drums of the jack-midi triggered
drum-app will never move in relation to an audio track and be
perfectly tight.
Support of freewheeling: do faster than realtime mixdowns using
softsynths.
And I'd also like to hear a quick hand up:
Who's using jack midi
exclusively and who's using alsa midi?
That's pointless, it's just too new and not nailed down yet ;)
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2:19 p.m.
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 06:40:15PM +0100, Atte Andr? Jensen wrote:
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
I use ALSA MIDI, with jack. It works. Though I've had problems with JACK SYNC in
Rosegarden. Especially using the RTC/HPET. And especially when using jackmp (SMP version
of jackd). Other JACK Sync programs appear to work fine, so I expect the problem is
Rosegarden.
I have a firewire audio interface with one MIDI port on it. There is no ALSA support for
firewire, so the MIDI interface uses JACK MIDI, and it works fine. Although it has a
noticeable latency and lag compared to the ALSA MIDI, strangely enough.
I can live with ALSA MIDI until whenever JACK MIDI is complete.
- -ken
Having audio and MIDI perfectly synchronized is a
must in my
vision. There is no point of using JACK if you use ALSA too.
Really?
I haven't yet used it, and think alsa midi works just fine. Exactly
where (real world scenarios, please) is jack-midi superior the the
degree that the current approach is pointless?
And I'd also like to hear a quick hand up: Who's using jack midi
exclusively and who's using alsa midi?
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2:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] is jackmidi crucial? [was:] lv2dynparam
On 3/2/07, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
I have a firewire audio interface with one MIDI port
on it. There is no ALSA support for firewire, so the MIDI interface uses JACK MIDI, and it
works fine. Although it has a noticeable latency and lag compared to the ALSA MIDI,
strangely enough.
I suppose, it uses ALSA sequencer, not JACK MIDI.
28 Feb
28 Feb
1:36 p.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
that was me now it's running but still no glue how to connect with jackmidi
Is there a command utility to connect jackmidi ports?
I've done some gentoo-ebuilds for lv2, zynjacku, zynadd, ...
If someone want to try this (very experimental) gentoo ebuilds
you could find the ebuilds in the proaudio-overlay at proaudio.tuxfamily.org
Greetz Frieder
Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>
writes:
what is with cmake?
* The installation should be documented. A simple
*not autogenerated*
* INSTALL (in the root of lv2dynparam, zynjacku and zyn) with a short
* explanation would suffice.
I agree. I just want to concentrate on code until it is more complete. I
accept any help, feedback, documentaiton, code. Your feedback in
particular is very valuable.
* For some reason zyn complains that I
haven't set LV2_PATH (although
* I have, I presume it's an environment variable). So I cp -R'ed the
* zynadd.lv2 dir to my ~/.lv2 dir:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/phat-0.4.0$ ll -R ~/.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2:
total 4,0K
drwxr-xr-x 2 atte atte 4,0K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.lv2
/home/atte/.lv2/zynadd.lv2:
total 324K
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 207 2007-02-28 10:41 manifest.ttl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 atte atte 309K 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 atte atte 940 2007-02-28 10:41 zynadd.ttl
Current Makefile hackery installs the plugin into LV2_PATH. Have you
"export"-ed the LV2_PATH variable?
I plan to switch zyn and zynjacku projects to autotools or scons in
future.
* I installed the latest phat + pyphat from
source, but (after
* starting jack, nothing else)
Yes, this is best to do (I guess you mean SVN). I should talk with Loki
to release newer version of PHAT. This will help jack_mixer too. Loki
you read?
I get this:
atte@ajstrup:~/software/zynjacku/zynjacku$ ./zynjacku.py
http://home.gna.org/zyn/zynadd/0
zynjacku library is missing lv2dynparam constants.
Hope you could help me the last part of the way!
Recently someone in IRC (maybe you) had problem with those constants
failing to autogenerate. This causes window without controls. So I added
check to detect this at start. However the guy left and I still don't
know what causes it. Can you please run this command from within
zynjacku directory:
./gen_py_constants.py `pkg-config
--variable=includedir lv2dynparamhost-1` '^LV2DYNPARAM_PARAMETER_'
Do you get any output?
gen_py_constants.py is executed several times, with different regex,
From Makefile. Result is collected in init_py_constants.c
I guess that file is empty for some strange reason?
Also, once I got report that gen_py_constants.py is not executable. That
was strage to me because AFAIK subversion client should put +x to the
file when it is checked out. Please check if gen_py_constants.py is
executable and if not, make it executable. And tell me :)
A few questions about await me once the thingy is
running:
* Will I be able to load original zynaddsubfx patches?
ATM, no. This feature is in my plan however, as "import" in zynjacku. Of
course it will load only adsynth-zynadd settings until other synths are
ported too. But for this to happen I need to implement project save/load
in zynjacku. With LASH support. And maybe publishing ready-for-use
patches/presets for zynjacku, including ones converted from original
zynaddsubfx patches, is good idea.
* Are the realtime problems of zynaddsubfx still
there?
I continue to dig the code and it is still work in progress. Howver, you
should feel the progress I've made right now. I particular zynadd has
no lock (mutex) at all. I removed lots of memory allocations in audio
processing context, but this is not complete yet. The results I get
here are quite amazing, I never got any "clicks" or JACK
crashes. They are caused by sleeping in realtime context. However JACK
crashing because of an app seems like bug in JACK itself to me, but I
may be wrong.
2:26 p.m.
Frieder Bürzele <linux-stuff(a)arcor.de> writes:
Yup this is an option too.
I plan to
switch zyn and zynjacku projects to autotools or scons in
future.
what is with cmake? that was me now it's running but still no glue how
to connect with jackmidi
Is there a command utility to connect jackmidi ports?
I've heard that you can connect them with same tools you use for audio
ports. I personally use svn patchage for this.
I've done some gentoo-ebuilds for lv2, zynjacku,
zynadd, ...
If someone want to try this (very experimental) gentoo ebuilds
you could find the ebuilds in the proaudio-overlay at proaudio.tuxfamily.org
This is cool :) When I add online setup instructions, I'll put link to
this site in gentoo section.
--
Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0>
3:35 p.m.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
Frieder Bürzele <linux-stuff(a)arcor.de> writes:
Yup this is an option too.
thx
I plan to
switch zyn and zynjacku projects to autotools or scons in
future.
what is with cmake?
that was me now it's running but still no
glue how to connect with jackmidi
Is there a command utility to connect jackmidi ports?
I've heard that you can connect them with same tools you use for audio
ports. I personally use svn patchage for this.
I've done some gentoo-ebuilds for lv2,
zynjacku, zynadd, ...
If someone want to try this (very experimental) gentoo ebuilds
you could find the ebuilds in the proaudio-overlay at proaudio.tuxfamily.org
This is cool :) When I add online setup instructions, I'll put link to
this site in gentoo section.
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Robert Jonsson -
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