21 Jan
2006
21 Jan
'06
noon
Hi all,
I've been thinking about writing and producing some instrumental tuition
videos. I have a mini-DV firewire camcorder available.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any (GPL) software I can run on Linux
to create these with.
I'm planning (amongst other things) to write some examples in MIDI. I'd
like to generate some dynamic video footage of the notation - so a
student can watch a cursor moving over the score, synchronised with the
backing track audio, for example.
It would also be cool to do some other things - dynamic performance
notes, guitar tablature, chord shapes, add lyrics (maybe with cheesy
karaoke-type word highlighting...)
I'd also like to edit this together with footage of the examples being
played acoustically, and explanations of what is going on.
This is only an idea in the very early stages at the moment, but I'd
like to know what help I could get from software...
It would be nice if decent tools exist - so the hard part will be
writing the material...
Regards
Michael
21 Jan
21 Jan
12:17 p.m.
Michael T D Nelson wrote:
I've been thinking about writing and producing
some instrumental tuition
videos. I have a mini-DV firewire camcorder available.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any (GPL) software I can run on Linux
to create these with.
For the video portion, Kino and Cinelerra are your best bets for
handling DV. You can use Kino for dumping stuff from the camera over
firewire and basic editing, and you can use Cinelerra for the
post-production (and more advanced editing features).
There are lots of audio choices, but your biggest problem is going to be
with synchronization. I think both video apps can synch with SMPTE, so
you would need to figure out a way to use this with, say, Ardour or
Rosegarden. I haven't kept up on Kino development lately, maybe it has
more advanced synch options now (it would be nice if they included Jack
synch!)
-- Brett
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3:02 p.m.
Brett McCoy wrote:
Michael T D Nelson wrote:
Thanks. I'll check these out properly soon.
I've been thinking about writing and
producing some instrumental
tuition videos. I have a mini-DV firewire camcorder available.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any (GPL) software I can run on
Linux to create these with.
For the video portion, Kino and Cinelerra are your best bets for
handling DV. There are lots of audio choices, but your biggest
problem is going to be
with synchronization. I think both video apps can synch with SMPTE, so
you would need to figure out a way to use this with, say, Ardour or
Rosegarden. I haven't kept up on Kino development lately, maybe it has
more advanced synch options now (it would be nice if they included Jack
synch!)
Yep, that's one of my major concerns. It would be awesome if *any* of
these programs were to include JACK synchronisation. In fact, for me to
do proper *multimedia* production on Linux, I would imagine it to be
essential in the long term.
The other concern is the process of creating computer-generated video
footage of music notation. Does anyone know of a way to do this, short
of creating lots of images of notation (with, say, different notes or
measures highlighted), and editing them into an animation manually?
I guess I could brush up my OpenGL and C and have a go at writing a
utility myself that converts MIDI into video notation...
Imagine a more serious version of that Nintendo GameCube Donkey Konga
bongo game... with proper notation, multiple instruments... Maybe you
could even plug in a MIDI instrument & it could grade your
performance... It could be an awesome music tuition tool!
I'm having far too many ambitious ideas today!
Thanks,
Michael
3:35 p.m.
Hi!
Alle 20:03, sabato 21 gennaio 2006, Michael T D Nelson ha scritto:
Imagine a more serious version of that Nintendo
GameCube Donkey Konga
bongo game... with proper notation, multiple instruments... Maybe you
could even plug in a MIDI instrument & it could grade your
performance... It could be an awesome music tuition tool!
Well, I won't regret even a not serious version!!:))) Please!!:)
Byez!
Carotinho
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4:38 p.m.
Carotinho wrote:
Hi!
Alle 20:03, sabato 21 gennaio 2006, Michael T D Nelson ha scritto:
In fact I believe that some interactive software could be more
interesting than a DVD.
c.
Imagine a more serious version of that Nintendo
GameCube Donkey Konga
bongo game... with proper notation, multiple instruments... Maybe you
could even plug in a MIDI instrument & it could grade your
performance... It could be an awesome music tuition tool!
Well, I won't regret even a not serious version!!:))) Please!!:)
Byez!
Carotinho
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23 Jan
23 Jan
12:21 p.m.
On Saturday 21 January 2006 19:03, Michael T D Nelson was like:
I guess I could brush up my OpenGL and C and have a go
at writing a
utility myself that converts MIDI into video notation...
Imagine a more serious version of that Nintendo GameCube Donkey Konga
bongo game... with proper notation, multiple instruments... Maybe you
could even plug in a MIDI instrument & it could grade your
performance... It could be an awesome music tuition tool!
This isn't such a daft idea.
I have had similar. As my programming skills are at Python newbie level, I've
been considering doing something with crystalspace. Unfortunately IIRC
crystalspace only supports OSS, which is dull. :(
The problem is that most games and video editing software is looking for
cross-platform operability and Jack support is a Linux ghetto thing. As we
can't exactly club them into submission, this could be a long haul. However,
I don't see how else to approach it.
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cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
12:26 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
This isn't such a daft idea.
I have had similar. As my programming skills are at Python newbie level, I've
been considering doing something with crystalspace. Unfortunately IIRC
crystalspace only supports OSS, which is dull. :(
The problem is that most games and video editing software is looking for
cross-platform operability and Jack support is a Linux ghetto thing. As we
can't exactly club them into submission, this could be a long haul. However,
I don't see how else to approach it.
I don't think adding Jack support to Kino would be outside the realm of
possibility. They just recently added ALSA support. It has an FX plugin
framework also (although it's kinda unstable) so if someone was clever
enough this could be implemented.
-- Brett
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http://www.alhazred.com
http://www.cassandrasyndrome.com
http://www.revelmoon.com
1:17 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
On Saturday 21 January 2006 19:03, Michael T D Nelson
was like:
I've actually put a lot of thought into the idea for some time now, and
I'm convinced that it could really be awesome.
I've seen some of my "non-musical" friends play that Donkey Konga bongo
game - and it really does teach them things. Everyone enjoys it too.
If you could just approach it in a slightly more rigorous way (but still
make it fun) then you'd have an awesome educational tool. Just adding
bar lines would make it better from my point of view.
I think this sort of software could be a real coup for Linux audio. With
the right library of tutorials, it could become an essential tool in
school music departments.
Anyway, my programming skills are pretty limited and very rusty to say
the least. When I get some time I'd like to have a go - I'm just hoping
that Nintendo or someone doesn't have restrictive patents on this already.
Regards
Michael
I guess I could brush up my OpenGL and C and have
a go at writing a
utility myself that converts MIDI into video notation...
Imagine a more serious version of that Nintendo GameCube Donkey Konga
bongo game... with proper notation, multiple instruments... Maybe you
could even plug in a MIDI instrument & it could grade your
performance... It could be an awesome music tuition tool!
This isn't such a daft idea.
21 Jan
21 Jan
12:20 p.m.
Michael T D Nelson wrote:
I've been thinking about writing and producing
some instrumental tuition
videos. I have a mini-DV firewire camcorder available.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any (GPL) software I can run on Linux
to create these with.
Sorry, I forgot to include links!
Kino: http://www.kinodv.org/article/view/115/1/7/
(note: now includes ALSA support!)
Cinelerra: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
(supports LADSPA plugins)
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Brett McCoy: Programmer by Day, Guitarist by Night
http://www.alhazred.com
http://www.cassandrasyndrome.com
http://www.revelmoon.com
1:32 p.m.
Brett McCoy wrote:
Michael T D Nelson wrote:
About cinelerra, my suggestion is to use the cvs branch at:
http://cvs.cinelerra.org
I've had some problems compiling the official version. With the cvs
version I've succesfully edited and rendered (in mpeg2) some video
footage. It is pretty stable.
You can use dvgrab to acquire the footage from the fireware camera.
c.
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I've been thinking about writing and
producing some instrumental
tuition videos. I have a mini-DV firewire camcorder available.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any (GPL) software I can run on
Linux to create these with.
Sorry, I forgot to include links!
Kino: http://www.kinodv.org/article/view/115/1/7/
(note: now includes ALSA support!)
Cinelerra: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
(supports LADSPA plugins)
22 Jan
22 Jan
2:15 p.m.
There are some apps out to record the screen direct to videofile like this
http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
You can google for screencapture and Linux, these are usually the tools
for (software)tutorials and might be interesting for you.
Cheers,
Malte
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media art + development
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4:09 p.m.
HI Thanks for that!
been looking for this!!
cheers
Bob
Malte Steiner wrote:
There are some apps out to record the screen direct to
videofile like
this
http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
You can google for screencapture and Linux, these are usually the
tools for (software)tutorials and might be interesting for you.
Cheers,
Malte
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