27 Sep
2003
27 Sep
'03
8:55 a.m.
Hi experts and geniuses.
Please be gentle with a newbie who has been using mandrake linux for a couple
of years, but has staid clear of recompiling kernels etc, and just been a
happy user.
Up until now I've been using windows as my DAW platform, having a degree in
sound engineering and being a teacher at a teachers training college. Having
followed the progress of the music-apps pretty closely and finally found some
time, I decided to see if I might get my feet wet with linux as a DAW. Since
I'm familiar with mandrake and found THAC's
rpms(http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound9.1.html) I decided to go that route. I've
been lurking on this forum for a couple of months now, and hope to get some
help here in the process.
I got me a new harddisk for my DAW machine so that I wouldn't loose anything.
Installed Mandrake 9.1 (just the basic stuff) Then I installed ardour, jack
and the kernel-multimedia packages from THAC. I then tried to start jack with
'jackstart -d alsa -d hw:0'
and got the following response:
"jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
=ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
I did a search on the google, and found out that someone had asked the same
thing on this list, but the answer was: "look in the faq" - which I then did.
And the faq say "recompile". I thought the idea of rpms was that I didn't
have to recompile - but I'm probably wrong. I just want to make sure before
i jump onto something which I'd rather not do - because it scares me... (I'm
a teacher and hobby sound engineer, not a linux wizard, but I'd like to
learn) So do I have to recompile?
Another thing: I have the staudio dsp24 cport soundcard which was recognised
and everything, but if anyone has a link or some tips on how to use this in
the most effective way under linux I'd be very happy! In windows we have a
virtual patchbay for attaching and rerouting the different ins and outs. How
do I do this in linux?
I'd be very grateful for all help! Best regards
Ketil Thorgersen
27 Sep
27 Sep
9:28 a.m.
lördagen den 27 september 2003 12.47 skrev Ketil Thorgersen:
Hi experts and geniuses.
Please be gentle with a newbie who has been using mandrake linux for a
couple of years, but has staid clear of recompiling kernels etc, and just
been a happy user.
......SNIP
=ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
I did a search on the google, and found out that someone had asked the same
thing on this list, but the answer was: "look in the faq" - which I then
did. And the faq say "recompile". I thought the idea of rpms was that I
didn't have to recompile - but I'm probably wrong. I just want to make
sure before i jump onto something which I'd rather not do - because it
scares me... (I'm a teacher and hobby sound engineer, not a linux wizard,
but I'd like to learn) So do I have to recompile?
You shouldn't have to do that. I'm running Mandrake 9.1 and Thac's
multimedia-kernel and haven't needed to recompile the kernel, just installed
the rpm and everything has been working since.
Are you sure you are actually using the correct kernel? You should get a few
other boot-entrys in lilo to choose between when booting. To boot with the
multimedia-kernel I choose an entry called 2421-016mm in my setup, (I'm not
sure whether Thac has put up a new kernel since I threw in mine, so it might
be something different, but should probably be similar).
Oh, btw, I need to run jack as root. But that's with realtime-capabilities.
The line you're starting jack with works fine on my system, so I should start
to make sure I was running the correct kernel. Hope anything of this might be
of help.
/Mathias
Another thing: I have the staudio dsp24 cport
soundcard which was
recognised and everything, but if anyone has a link or some tips on how to
use this in the most effective way under linux I'd be very happy! In
windows we have a virtual patchbay for attaching and rerouting the
different ins and outs. How do I do this in linux?
I'd be very grateful for all help! Best regards
Ketil Thorgersen
9:50 a.m.
Are you sure you are actually using the correct
kernel? You should get a
few other boot-entrys in lilo to choose between when booting. To boot with
the multimedia-kernel I choose an entry called 2421-016mm in my setup, (I'm
not sure whether Thac has put up a new kernel since I threw in mine, so it
might be something different, but should probably be similar).
Ah - thanks a lot! I just rebooted and went to get something to eat... That
did the trick!
Now for some testing!
Best
Ketil
10:15 a.m.
Ketil Thorgersen <linuxuadio(a)rytmisk.net> wrote:
learn) So do I have to recompile?
http://lulu.esm.rochester.edu/kevine/turnkey/home.html
www.rpmfind.net
http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/conmen/rpms.html
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8018846552.html
29 Sep
29 Sep
7:04 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] email from Habibie
Excuse this!
Somebody with invalid e-mail address
eMail2Me(a)Habibie.kicks-ass.org
mailed a NoteEdit request to me. If you are on this
list please send cour correct e-mail!
--
J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY (ja(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de)
27 Sep
27 Sep
1:42 p.m.
Please note that Mandrake 9.2 will be released in a few weeks, and contains
the latest and greatest multimedia kernel, alsa, ardour/audacity, jack stuff
including new gui, sweep, terminatorX, hydrogen, amsynth, ecasound, tkeca,
snd, fluidsynth, rosegarden4, noteedit, muse, swami, etc. etc. etc.
Some of this stuff is on main CDs/ISOs, and some is installed automatically
from online repositories using urpmi. Urpmi is your friend. I believe the
Powerpack Edition will include almost all of the audio apps on CD or DVD
though.
I will also update the Audio Workstation HowTo to be accurate as of 9.2 when
it is released.
There's no need to switch distros if you're happy, but please be aware that
we've been working very hard to try to keep multimedia support in Mandrake
current and easy to install.
Austin
--
Austin Acton
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
2:50 p.m.
lørdag 27. september 2003, 13:30, skrev Austin:
Please note that Mandrake 9.2 will be released in a
few weeks, and contains
the latest and greatest multimedia kernel, alsa, ardour/audacity, jack
stuff including new gui, sweep, terminatorX, hydrogen, amsynth, ecasound,
tkeca, snd, fluidsynth, rosegarden4, noteedit, muse, swami, etc. etc. etc.
Great! I knew of course that 9.2 was just around the corner, but had no idea
it would provide a DAW out of the box. This is really great news! Will I be
asked during installation if I prefer a low latency kernel and if
installation should be optimised for multimedia, or is the new kernel equally
good at everything?
Would be great to get it working now nonetheless:-)
Best regards
Ketil
3:14 p.m.
On 09/27/2003 12:43:24 PM, Ketil Thorgersen wrote:
Great! I knew of course that 9.2 was just around the
corner, but had no idea
it would provide a DAW out of the box.
As I said, only out of the Powerpack box. ;-) But the rpms are available
through urpmi as well.
This is really great news! Will I be
asked during installation if I prefer a low latency kernel and if
installation should be optimised for multimedia, or is the new kernel
equally good at everything?
Unfortunately, the multimedia kernel you must install yourself, becuase it is
a security risk due to the capabilities patch. Of cource you can do this with
one command:
# urpmi kernel-multimedia
Which also worked with 9.1 by the way.
Would be great to get it working now nonetheless:-)
The howto for 9.1 is still available at
http://groundstate.ca/mdkaw.html
but it will be updated within the next few weeks to 9.2, mainly concerning the
beautiful new GUI for jack, and ardour's new and improved configuration menus.
Austin
--
Austin Acton
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
1:50 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
Hi again gurus
I fixed the jack thing, but ardour wont work out of the box either.
Can someone tell me what I should do when ardour gives this output:
.............................
Ardour/GTK 0.377.1 running with libardour 0.683.0
ardour: [WARNING]: Without a UI style file, ardour will look strange.
Please set ARDOUR_UI_RC to point to a valid UI style file
Loading UI configuration file
Loading system configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour_system.rc
Loading user configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour.rc
liblrdf: error - - file '/root/.ardour//sfdb' open failed - No such file or
directory
2152: received signal 11
ardour is killing itself for a clean exit
Killed
.................................
Best
Ketil
3:25 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
lørdag 27. september 2003, 17:42, skrev Ketil Thorgersen:
Hi again gurus
I fixed the jack thing, but ardour wont work out of the box either.
Can someone tell me what I should do when ardour gives this output:
.............................
Ardour/GTK 0.377.1 running with libardour 0.683.0
ardour: [WARNING]: Without a UI style file, ardour will look strange.
Please set ARDOUR_UI_RC to point to a valid UI style file
Loading UI configuration file
Loading system configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour_system.rc
Loading user configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour.rc
liblrdf: error - - file '/root/.ardour//sfdb' open failed - No such file
or directory
2152: received signal 11
ardour is killing itself for a clean exit
Killed
.................................
Ok - I placed an empty file called sfdb in ./.ardour and I got one step
further:
Now it stops at: [ERROR]: No toggle button pixmaps found to match
toggle-button [0-9] *.xpm$
Could not initialize ardour
Isn't this 09beta3 rpm from THAC supposed to work out of the box?
Best
Ketil
5:12 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
Ketil Thorgersen <linuxuadio(a)rytmisk.net> writes:
Isn't this 09beta3 rpm from THAC supposed to work
out of the box?
It's *supposed* to.
If it actually did, it wouldn't have "beta" in the name. ;-)
--
Jack O'Quin
5:48 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 10:18, Ketil Thorgersen wrote:
Ok - I placed an empty file called sfdb in ./.ardour and I got one step
further:
Now it stops at: [ERROR]: No toggle button pixmaps found to match
toggle-button [0-9] *.xpm$
Could not initialize ardour
Isn't this 09beta3 rpm from THAC supposed to work out of the box?
Best
Ketil
On the Ardour CVS site there is an extra file you must download
separately that has the pixmaps.
(Don't ask me why it isn't part of the CVS download, but that's the way
it is.)
I thought the sfdb (sound file data base) was supposed to be a
directory?
- Mark
28 Sep
28 Sep
3:57 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 15:33, Mark Knecht wrote:
On the Ardour CVS site there is an extra file you must
download
separately that has the pixmaps.
(Don't ask me why it isn't part of the CVS download, but that's the way
it is.)
It was added to CVS around the middle of the summer.
I thought the sfdb (sound file data base) was supposed
to be a
directory?
No, it's just a file in .ardour/
Taybin
29 Sep
29 Sep
12:33 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
On the Ardour
CVS site there is an extra file you must download
separately that has the pixmaps.
(Don't ask me why it isn't part of the CVS download, but that's the way
it is.)
It was added to CVS around the middle of the summer. I thought the sfdb (sound file data base) was
supposed to be a
directory?
No, it's just a file in .ardour/ 
1:23 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
Mark Knecht wrote:
So it's in the downloaded source tree somewhere? Why does the ./configure
make install process not put it somewhere standard so new folks don't have
problems like this? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding still.
i think it installs it in /usr/local/share/ardour/pixmaps when you say
"make install". at least it did here.
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On the Ardour CVS site there is an extra file you must
download
separately that has the pixmaps.
(Don't ask me why it isn't part of the CVS download, but that's the way
it is.)
It was added to CVS around the middle of the summer.
2:27 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 08:07, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:
i think it installs it in
/usr/local/share/ardour/pixmaps when you say
"make install". at least it did here.
So possible the default .ardourrc file was not updated to indicate this
location? I'm wondering why the originator of this thread had problems
getting the pixmaps?
Thanks,
Mark
2:58 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Something new (ardour never starts)
mandag 29. september 2003, 18:11, skrev Mark Knecht:
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 08:07, Joern Nettingsmeier
wrote:
It's strange, but has not a lot to do with ./make install since I used THAC's
rpm. For the record I have postponed the effort to make a linux DAW untill
the release of Mandrake 9.2 - hoping it will be as out of the box as Austin
says.
I'll probably be back with more questions then:-)
Best regards
Ketil
i think it installs it in
/usr/local/share/ardour/pixmaps when you say
"make install". at least it did here.
So possible the default .ardourrc file was not updated to indicate this
location? I'm wondering why the originator of this thread had problems
getting the pixmaps?
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