26 Nov
2012
26 Nov
'12
12:11 p.m.
Hi all,
I'm writing this for a friend of mine.
This particular friend is a recording hardware developer that build several
preamps, EQ's, etc.
He is well known in the high end analog gear community and build tools for
the some pretty big names in the industry (e.g. Bob Katz).
So this friend and I were discussing a new hardware analog device with
digital control that he designed and I must say that his idea is pretty
good.
I asked him if it will be possible to control the device from a plugin and
got a negative answer, but he said he would be glad to offer information to
a developer interested in this kind of project.
I told him about Linux, Ardour and LV2 and he was very interested.
I proposed to him to contact the Linux Audio community and see if there is
anyone that would be interested to participate.
Basically the idea is to make an interface for his device in LV2 format.
I don't know how much (if any) money will be involved, so you will have to
discuss these matters with him directly.
Please understand that I cannot give his or the company's name at this time.
Anyone interested please contact me directly so I can give you more details.
Best regards,
Moshe Werner
26 Nov
26 Nov
12:37 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Moshe Werner <moshwe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm writing this for a friend of mine.
This particular friend is a recording hardware developer that build
several preamps, EQ's, etc.
He is well known in the high end analog gear community and build tools for
the some pretty big names in the industry (e.g. Bob Katz).
So this friend and I were discussing a new hardware analog device with
digital control that he designed and I must say that his idea is pretty
good.
I asked him if it will be possible to control the device from a plugin and
got a negative answer, but he said he would be glad to offer information to
a developer interested in this kind of project.
I told him about Linux, Ardour and LV2 and he was very interested.
I proposed to him to contact the Linux Audio community and see if there is
anyone that would be interested to participate.
Basically the idea is to make an interface for his device in LV2 format.
I don't know how much (if any) money will be involved, so you will have to
discuss these matters with him directly.
Please understand that I cannot give his or the company's name at this
time.
Anyone interested please contact me directly so I can give you more
details.
Its not immediately obvious than a plugin (in any format) is the right
choice to control a device. I guess it depends a lot on the nature of the
device. I know that there are companies like UAD who have external h/w DSP
units that are represented to the user as if they were "native" plugins. If
it is this kind of thing, then certainly "wrapping" the device and
presenting it as if it is just a s/w plugin is a smart and nice thing for
the user. On the other hand, if its a device that doesn't bring audio into
and/or out of the computer, or if it only brings audio into/outof the
computer, then a plugin is not a sensible way to present it.
12:57 p.m.
Thanks Paul,
I guess you're right, but the Idea is to connect between my friend and the
dev community so they can work out together the best possible solution for
Linux users.
The guy is talented and interested to work with Linux community.
Also for future possible developments, I think this could do some good for
the Linux audio community.
Thanks again.
Moshe
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Moshe Werner <moshwe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm writing this for a friend of mine.
This particular friend is a recording hardware developer that build
several preamps, EQ's, etc.
He is well known in the high end analog gear community and build tools
for the some pretty big names in the industry (e.g. Bob Katz).
So this friend and I were discussing a new hardware analog device with
digital control that he designed and I must say that his idea is pretty
good.
I asked him if it will be possible to control the device from a plugin
and got a negative answer, but he said he would be glad to offer
information to a developer interested in this kind of project.
I told him about Linux, Ardour and LV2 and he was very interested.
I proposed to him to contact the Linux Audio community and see if there
is anyone that would be interested to participate.
Basically the idea is to make an interface for his device in LV2 format.
I don't know how much (if any) money will be involved, so you will have
to discuss these matters with him directly.
Please understand that I cannot give his or the company's name at this
time.
Anyone interested please contact me directly so I can give you more
details.
Its not immediately obvious than a plugin (in any format) is the right
choice to control a device. I guess it depends a lot on the nature of the
device. I know that there are companies like UAD who have external h/w DSP
units that are represented to the user as if they were "native" plugins. If
it is this kind of thing, then certainly "wrapping" the device and
presenting it as if it is just a s/w plugin is a smart and nice thing for
the user. On the other hand, if its a device that doesn't bring audio into
and/or out of the computer, or if it only brings audio into/outof the
computer, then a plugin is not a sensible way to present it.
9:50 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Moshe Werner <moshwe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm writing this for a friend of mine.
This particular friend is a recording hardware developer that build
several preamps, EQ's, etc.
He is well known in the high end analog gear community and build tools for
the some pretty big names in the industry (e.g. Bob Katz).
So this friend and I were discussing a new hardware analog device with
digital control that he designed and I must say that his idea is pretty
good.
I asked him if it will be possible to control the device from a plugin and
got a negative answer, but he said he would be glad to offer information to
a developer interested in this kind of project.
I told him about Linux, Ardour and LV2 and he was very interested.
I proposed to him to contact the Linux Audio community and see if there is
anyone that would be interested to participate.
Basically the idea is to make an interface for his device in LV2 format.
I don't know how much (if any) money will be involved, so you will have to
discuss these matters with him directly.
Please understand that I cannot give his or the company's name at this
time.
Anyone interested please contact me directly so I can give you more
details.
A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper] would
be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
10:02 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper]
would be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
for a control device, probably yes. but for a device that does audio i/o
and/or audio processing, probably not.
11:42 p.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On the other hand, if JACK had generic message ports and metadata as
described here: [http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?page=JackWishList]
the thing might be most appropriately developed as a simple JACK client...
A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper]
would be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
for a control device, probably yes. but for a device that does audio i/o
and/or audio processing, probably not.
27 Nov
27 Nov
12:20 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On the other hand, if JACK had generic message ports and metadata as
described here: [http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?page=JackWishList]
the thing might be most appropriately developed as a simple JACK client...
the metadata API has already been designed. it is, as usual, all about
someone finding the motivation and time to implement it.
anyone is free to submit a patch that takes the basic structure of the MIDI
support and "genericizes" it. of course, that person would have to decide
which branch of jack they want to support, so ... grrrr.
even so, *if* this device is really something like the UAD or TC or other
external DSP units, then i'm not convinced that a JACK client is the most
appropriate or useful implementation, though it would certainly be an
option.
A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper]
would be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
for a control device, probably yes. but for a device that does audio i/o
and/or audio processing, probably not.
12:30 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That reminds me, Paul, do you have a link to the metadata API
RFC/spec/whatever? I was unable to find anything on it the last time I
looked.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On the other hand, if JACK had generic message ports and metadata as
described here: [
http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?page=JackWishList] the thing
might be most appropriately developed as a simple JACK client...
the metadata API has already been designed. it is, as usual, all about
someone finding the motivation and time to implement it.
anyone is free to submit a patch that takes the basic structure of the
MIDI support and "genericizes" it. of course, that person would have to
decide which branch of jack they want to support, so ... grrrr.
even so, *if* this device is really something like the UAD or TC or other
external DSP units, then i'm not convinced that a JACK client is the most
appropriate or useful implementation, though it would certainly be an
option.
A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper]
would be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
for a control device, probably yes. but for a device that does audio i/o
and/or audio processing, probably not.
9:41 a.m.
The "Device" is an analog processor that has digital control. The signal
path is purely analog.
I will elaborate in a private conversation if someone would be interested
to take part in the project.
What I can say is that the digital control is not only for beauty, but is
critical for the functionality of the processor.
As I said I'm neither a programmer nor electronics expert, what I'm trying
to do is making the connection between the two.
FYI I'm not getting paid for this, I'm doing this out of personal interest
in the subject and maybe to get some professional tools for the Linux audio
community.
Best regards,
Moshe
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM, J. Liles <malnourite(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On the other hand, if JACK had generic message ports and metadata as
described here: [
http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?page=JackWishList] the thing
might be most appropriately developed as a simple JACK client...
the metadata API has already been designed. it is, as usual, all about
someone finding the motivation and time to implement it.
anyone is free to submit a patch that takes the basic structure of the
MIDI support and "genericizes" it. of course, that person would have to
decide which branch of jack they want to support, so ... grrrr.
even so, *if* this device is really something like the UAD or TC or other
external DSP units, then i'm not convinced that a JACK client is the most
appropriate or useful implementation, though it would certainly be an
option.
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A 'driver' using libmapper [http://www.idmil.org/software/libmapper]
would be more appropriate than a plugin, I think.
for a control device, probably yes. but for a device that does audio i/o
and/or audio processing, probably not.
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