21 Jan
2004
21 Jan
'04
2:29 p.m.
Thanks to all who replied to my earlier posting
about available apps for linux audio in comparison
to Window$/Mac apps. Now that I know there is an
abundant supply of apps... What would be your
recommendations to help a Linux newbie make the
transition and begin using a Linux DAW? In other
words how do you make music using your Linux DAW?
Next, sound card recommendations? A friend may
donate a Delta66 with Omni I/O breakout box to me.
I may also purchase a SB Live! (EMU10K) card for
using soundfonts. What cards work well? Good
driver support. Low latency. Good D/A chips.
Low noice. Etc.
Finally, is there a preference to Intel or AMD
CPUs and chipsets? Does one seem to work better
than another? VIA chipset? nVidia? Intel?
Sorry for asking what probably seems mundane to
you. But, I'm new and want to get educated before
making the switch. But I am dedicated to making
the switch from Window$ to Linux.
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21 Jan
21 Jan
4:51 p.m.
Hi,
onsdagen den 21 januari 2004 19.25 skrev Richard K. Ingalls:
Thanks to all who replied to my earlier posting
about available apps for linux audio in comparison
to Window$/Mac apps. Now that I know there is an
abundant supply of apps... What would be your
recommendations to help a Linux newbie make the
transition and begin using a Linux DAW? In other
words how do you make music using your Linux DAW?
My setup is a Delta44 and MusE connected to Jack and a bunch of softsynths
(mainly MusE's internal softsynths)... that's pretty much it. Oh, and
...someday... more dedicated use of Jamin for mastering.
Next, sound card recommendations? A friend may
donate a Delta66 with Omni I/O breakout box to me.
I may also purchase a SB Live! (EMU10K) card for
using soundfonts.
I know people have very different opinions on this one... my own is that you
can do without the sb-live card for soundfont purposes. Don't get me wrong,
the Live is a very good card for playing sounds. I have several, I'm not
using the soundfonts support anymore though. They serve as soundcard for all
non-music purposes (*bling* sounds). Instead I'm using Fluidsynth, a software
synth that utilizes soundfonts. There is also a softsynth called Timidity++
that many people use for this purpose.
The reason why not to use the Live for generating the sound is to keep the
signal inside the computer. What this means in practice is mainly that I can
apply LADSPA effects to the synth sounds in realtime without any extra
hassle.
midi-> sequencer -> softsynth -> effect-rack -> audio-out
in my case, using MusE which has an internal connection to fluidsynth it looks
like this:
midi -> MusE -> MusE-fluid -> MusE-mixer -> audio-out
What cards work well? Good
driver support. Low latency. Good D/A chips.
Low noice. Etc.
Finally, is there a preference to Intel or AMD
CPUs and chipsets? Does one seem to work better
than another? VIA chipset? nVidia? Intel?
Sorry for asking what probably seems mundane to
you.
Nothing to be sorry about, having a place for asking questions is one of the
main purposes of this list.
But, I'm new and want to get educated before
making the switch. But I am dedicated to making
the switch from Window$ to Linux.
And a noble goal it is :)
/Robert
7:51 p.m.
Hallo,
Richard K. Ingalls hat gesagt: // Richard K. Ingalls wrote:
Thanks to all who replied to my earlier posting
about available apps for linux audio in comparison
to Window$/Mac apps. Now that I know there is an
abundant supply of apps... What would be your
recommendations to help a Linux newbie make the
transition and begin using a Linux DAW? In other
words how do you make music using your Linux DAW?
IMO, there's no other way than to try out some applications yourself.
Everyone has a different style of working. I work almost exclusivly
inside Pd, sometimes enhanced through some Python/C++ programming and
soundfile editing. A more common approach might be using
MusE/Rosegarden to compose or record MIDI, or use Ardour to record
live music and arrange it. Or you might like Soundtracker.
There's no way to guess what you will like, so you'll have to try lots
of apps.
Next, sound card recommendations? A friend may
donate a Delta66 with Omni I/O breakout box to me.
I may also purchase a SB Live! (EMU10K) card for
using soundfonts.
Both nice cards. Both will do. It also depends on what you want to
achieve and how your workstyle is.
What cards work well? Good driver support. Low
latency. Good D/A
chips. Low noice. Etc.
Beware that SBLive might "enhance" your sound with built-in effects.
The Delta will give you pure sound. I prefer the latter (I have a
SBLive and a Delta Audiophile in my box and I now never use the SBLive
anymore. I'm gonna through it away, if I don't find use for it in
another machine.)
Finally, is there a preference to Intel or AMD
CPUs and chipsets? Does one seem to work better
than another?
No.
VIA chipset? nVidia? Intel?
I stay clear of Nvidia, some of their stuff (ethernet, graphics card)
is only fully supported on Linux by binary drivers. I won't support
such a detrimental attitude with my money. YMMV.
ciao
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7:59 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 18:47, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I've had bad luck with VIA, and Intel as far as sound quality. Both
sucked. M-Audio stuff sounds VERY noticably better.
nVidia is just a constant hassle to keep it working. I'd avoid it at
all costs. If you're talking video chips, I'm very happy with my intel
845... effortless. If you're talking about integrated audio (nForce or
whatever), I'd say stay clear.
Austin
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Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
VIA chipset?
nVidia? Intel?
I stay clear of Nvidia, some of their stuff (ethernet, graphics card)
is only fully supported on Linux by binary drivers. I won't support
such a detrimental attitude with my money. YMMV. 
9:41 p.m.
No integrated audio that's for sure. If you do get a mobo with
integrated audio, turn it off in BIOS settings. The accelerated NVIDIA
drivers work fine. I run them at home on my three systems and at work
on about 50 systems with no problems (lately, at first they were a bit
flaky). I'm not really too concerned about their religion ;-)
Jan
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 17:53, Austin Acton wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 18:47, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I've had bad luck with VIA, and Intel as far as sound quality. Both
sucked. M-Audio stuff sounds VERY noticably better.
nVidia is just a constant hassle to keep it working. I'd avoid it at
all costs. If you're talking video chips, I'm very happy with my intel
845... effortless. If you're talking about integrated audio (nForce or
whatever), I'd say stay clear.
Austin
--
Austin Acton
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
VIA
chipset? nVidia? Intel?
I stay clear of Nvidia, some of their stuff (ethernet, graphics card)
is only fully supported on Linux by binary drivers. I won't support
such a detrimental attitude with my money. YMMV.
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