On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:37:25 -0700 Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> wrote: Well, that proved rather interesting. The upgrade (devuan chimaera to be precise) removed python2 and, critically, python-gtk2, but it left the old entries in apt/sources.list so I was able to reinstall them. That's a bit more breathing space, but the axe is bound to fall at some point, so I'd still like to find alternatives. The archiver is particularly good for newbies. It's drag-and-drop. Drop a compressed file on it and it will decompress it, drop a plain file on it and it will put up a menu of compression types. In both cases it *doesn't* delete the source.

I use XFCE. I have Trinity running on a VM. XFCE is better and lighter. On November 14, 2021 10:27:48 AM HST, Brandon Hale <bthaleproductions(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've never run Rox, but I just took a look at it. Maybe some > alternatives that could be very similar in functionality are: > > GNUStep > > LXDE > > Trinity Desktop (KDE3 Revived) > > Mate Desktop (Gnome 2 Revived) > > > These all have their own applications I do believe and have a retro and > lightweight feel to them. I know for a fact that LXDE will run on a > potato. I use it on an old Acer Aspire One netbook. I run mate on my > main machine and it uses modern gtk3 and is fast and featureful (just > like I remember it back in 2009)! > > I hope this helps. You can also pick and choose which applications you > like best from all of these and run the ones that you like. > > Brandon Hale > > On 11/14/21 14:58, Will Godfrey wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:37:25 -0700 > > Bob van der Poel <bob(a)mellowood.ca> wrote: > > > >> Not to state the obvious ... but you could install Python2. 3 and 2 live > >> quite happily together. > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 8:27 AM Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> For very many years I've been using the combination of OpenBox and ROX. > >>> This > >>> has provided a very lightweight and user-friendly interface. It's also > >>> a good fit for the Raspberry Pi, and users unfamiliar with Linux seem to > >>> take > >>> to it quickly. However... > >>> > >>> ROX filer itself is still fine after all this time, but ROX-Lib relies on > >>> Python-2, so all apps using it are now dead - as is the rox -users list :( > >>> > >>> I can get round most of the ones I use but the two I need are desktop > >>> replacements for are the Archiving program (which handles a laundry list of > >>> formats) and screen resolution manager (based on XrandR). > >>> > >>> The usual web searches don't seem to show up anything useful. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > >>> > > Well, that proved rather interesting. The upgrade (devuan chimaera to be > > precise) removed python2 and, critically, python-gtk2, but it left the old > > entries in apt/sources.list so I was able to reinstall them. That's a bit more > > breathing space, but the axe is bound to fall at some point, so I'd still like > > to find alternatives. > > > > The archiver is particularly good for newbies. It's drag-and-drop. Drop a > > compressed file on it and it will decompress it, drop a plain file on it and it > > will put up a menu of compression types. In both cases it *doesn't* delete the > > source.

If you really need python2 in Debian (and probably Devuan), a friend of mine said you need a package called "python-is-python2". That supplies the python2 runtime.

Well, that proved rather interesting. The upgrade (devuan chimaera to be precise) removed python2 and, critically, python-gtk2, but it left the old entries in apt/sources.list so I was able to reinstall them. That's a bit more breathing space, but the axe is bound to fall at some point, so I'd

like to find alternatives.