12 Feb
2005
12 Feb
'05
4:44 p.m.
I got pmidi to play out to my keyboard, but I can't figure out how to
get input. When I open rosegarden and go to manage midi devices I add a
new one and get a "No Connections". When I select the "64:0" port
that
pmidi used it just goes back to "No Connection". It won't select that
port.
I think maybe rosegarden is buggy. Doesn't help that I am using amd64.
Is there a different program I can use to try and record midi from the
keyboard? Is there maybe a module I am not loading?
pmidi -l:
Port Client name Port name
64:0 ES1371 - Rawmidi 0 ES1371
lsmod:
snd_seq_midi 8192 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7168 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 55232 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 60836 0
snd_mixer_oss 19648 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_ens1371 23108 5
snd_rawmidi 23136 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_ens1371
snd_seq_device 7884 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm 100964 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ens1371
snd_page_alloc 10760 1 snd_pcm
snd_timer 24008 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_ac97_codec 68740 1 snd_ens1371
snd 58120 21
snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
12 Feb
12 Feb
5:01 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:43 -0800, Noah Roberts wrote:
I got pmidi to play out to my keyboard, but I
can't figure out how to
get input. When I open rosegarden and go to manage midi devices I add a
new one and get a "No Connections". When I select the "64:0" port
that
pmidi used it just goes back to "No Connection". It won't select that
port.
I think maybe rosegarden is buggy. Doesn't help that I am using amd64.
Is there a different program I can use to try and record midi from the
keyboard? Is there maybe a module I am not loading?
pmidi -l:
Port Client name Port name
64:0 ES1371 - Rawmidi 0 ES1371
Try:
arecordmidi --port=64:0 --dump foo.mid
and play at the keyboard. You should see the midi data scrolling down
the screen.
Lee
13 Feb
13 Feb
12:41 a.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
Try:
arecordmidi --port=64:0 --dump foo.mid
What software package is this command likely to come in? My system
doesn't have it.
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
1:11 a.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
aOn Sat, 2005-02-12 at 20:39 -0800, Noah Roberts
wrote:
Hmm...that is installed. Is it perhapse new to that package?
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
Lee Revell wrote:
alsa-utils
Try:
arecordmidi --port=64:0 --dump foo.mid
What software package is this command likely to come in? My system
doesn't have it.
2:10 a.m.
Noah Roberts wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
Must be. Used arecordmidi to record something from my keyboard and it
worked. Prob must be in rosegarden so I will also try upgrading it.
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
alsa-utils
Hmm...that is installed. Is it perhapse new to that package?
2:54 a.m.
Noah Roberts wrote:
Noah Roberts wrote:
Rosegarden still won't connect to my keyboard for some reason. It seems
to recognise that it is there and gives a name "External midi device" to
it, but won't manage it.
Rosegarden 4-0.9.91 - AlsaDriver - alsa-lib version 1.0.7
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
ALSA Client information:
64,0 - (ES1371 - Rawmidi 0, ES1371) (DUPLEX) [ctype 2,
ptype 2, cap 127]
Creating device 0 in Play mode for connection 64:0 ES1371 (duplex)
Default device name for this device is MIDI external device
Creating device 1 in Record mode for connection 64:0 ES1371 (duplex)
Default device name for this device is MIDI hardware input device
Current timer set to "system timer"
AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi - initialised MIDI subsystem
Current timer set to "system timer"
Creating device 2 in Play mode -- no connection available
Default device name for this device is Anonymous MIDI device 1
Current timer set to "system timer"
Current timer set to "system timer"
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
Lee Revell wrote:
Must be. Used arecordmidi to record something from my keyboard and it
worked. Prob must be in rosegarden so I will also try upgrading it.
alsa-utils
Hmm...that is installed. Is it perhapse new to that package?
4:09 a.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
Rosegarden just doesn't seem to be working for me. The keyboard
connection is initialized according to configuration panel-> midi
stats. I can load a midi and play it to the keyboard using rosegarden.
But for one thing there are no instruments to choose from. Both right
click on a track and going to find 'instrument' in the menus yeilds a
blank menu.
Second, the "midi connection manager" is not working as described. I
can create new devices in both play and record but I cannot connect them
to the soundcard connection to my keyboard. The choice is in the
dropdown, but when I click on it the "No Connection" item remains selected.
When I try to record I get a "No record instrument selected." I think
it wants me to select a non-existant instrument?
What am I missing?
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
6:34 a.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
On Sunday 13 Feb 2005 08:07, Noah Roberts wrote:
Rosegarden just doesn't seem to be working for me.
[...]
But for one thing there are no instruments to choose from. Both
right click on a track and going to find 'instrument' in the menus
yeilds a blank menu.
This immediately made me think "I bet he's using a 64-bit machine", and
tracking back through the thread I see that that's true.
Rosegarden has had various problems on 64-bit hardware. In the version
you have, synchronising MIDI devices between sequencer and GUI
processes was failing because someone had used different sizes of int
on opposite sides of a comms protocol. That's fixed now, but we still
have reports of crashes when playing/recording MIDI:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6500177&forum_id…
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10810404
These things are proving tricky to track down, because none of the
developers has any access to 64-bit hardware at the moment.
Chris
8:02 a.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
Last Sunday 13 February 2005 08:07, Noah Roberts was like:
Rosegarden just doesn't seem to be working for me.
The keyboard
connection is initialized according to configuration panel-> midi
stats. I can load a midi and play it to the keyboard using rosegarden.
But for one thing there are no instruments to choose from. Both right
click on a track and going to find 'instrument' in the menus yeilds a
blank menu.
Second, the "midi connection manager" is not working as described. I
can create new devices in both play and record but I cannot connect them
to the soundcard connection to my keyboard. The choice is in the
dropdown, but when I click on it the "No Connection" item remains selected.
When I try to record I get a "No record instrument selected." I think
it wants me to select a non-existant instrument?
What am I missing?
Uhm, Instruments?
(just a thought ;-)
Rosegarden doesn't actually contain any instruments as such. If your version
is compiled with DSSI support, you will be able to use synth plugins. Else
you need to connect to a softsynth via JACK. I generally launch QJackCtl and
QSynth (fluidsynth gui) and then Rosegarden.
I trust you are already familiar with these:
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/using-rosegarden/en/chapter-0.ht…
(there is a German translation too)
Forgive me if you have already figured all this. I find a statement of the PBO
can often be helpful at times like these. :-)
cheers
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
11:04 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Rosegarden instrument selection
tim hall wrote:
>Second, the "midi connection manager" is
not working as described. I
>can create new devices in both play and record but I cannot connect them
>to the soundcard connection to my keyboard. The choice is in the
>dropdown, but when I click on it the "No Connection" item remains selected.
Rosegarden doesn't actually contain any
instruments as such. If your version
is compiled with DSSI support, you will be able to use synth plugins. Else
you need to connect to a softsynth via JACK. I generally launch QJackCtl and
QSynth (fluidsynth gui) and then Rosegarden.
I've had this same problem with every version of Rosegarden
I've tried for the last year. I've got an SBlive so I load
up 8mbgmsfx.sf2 with asfxload then start rosegarden, import
a mid file and then goto Composition->Studio->Manage MIDI
Devices, click New and the drop down to the left shows a
variety of ALSA ports so I select "65:0 Emu10K1 Port 0 (write)"
and the dropdown always goes back to "No connection"...
no matter what variation I try.
pmidi -p 65:0 some.mid works. muse(seq) works with this
combo and also with timidity -iA.
Just now I loaded up qjackctl and qsynth with the same sf2
and indeed rosegarden shows "129:0 Synth input port (32135:0)"
but the dropdown always reverts to "No connection".
I hope I'm doing something really dumb but I've tried at
least a dozen times over the last 12 months with various
versions of rosegarden, kernels and alsa and everything else
looks like it will work except I can't select any instruments.
The only thing is I am running an AMD64 box... but like I say,
most other software that I have tried does work.
--markc
3:15 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
tim hall wrote:
Uhm, Instruments?
(just a thought ;-)
Rosegarden doesn't actually contain any instruments as such.
I figured as much...
If your version
is compiled with DSSI support, you will be able to use synth plugins. Else
you need to connect to a softsynth via JACK. I generally launch QJackCtl and
QSynth (fluidsynth gui) and then Rosegarden.
I have a real synth, do I need a softsynth?
I trust you are already familiar with these:
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/using-rosegarden/en/chapter-0.ht…
(there is a German translation too)
Those seem to describe if you don't have a real midi device. I do so I
figured it would work.
However I did just notice this in sndstat:
Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Midi devices:
0: ES1371
Maybe I need to fix something in kernel...
6:46 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
Last Sunday 13 February 2005 19:13, Noah Roberts was like:
I suggest you look at the options in your alsa configuration file. What distro
are you using? (sorry, not been taking notes ;-)
mine looks like this:
$ cat /etc/modutils/alsa-base
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.5 ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd device_mode=0660
options snd-intel8x0 mpu_port=0x330 index=0 ## This is the MIDI port
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
It does sound like most of your problems are 64bit specific, the latest
release candidate of rosegarden4-1.0rc2 addresses some of these issues and is
currently available for testing.
cheers
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
tim hall wrote:
No you can send to an external MIDI instrument so long as you have the MIDI
port enabled in your alsa config, this is usually not enabled by default.
Uhm, Instruments?
(just a thought ;-)
Rosegarden doesn't actually contain any instruments as such.
I figured as much...
If your version
is compiled with DSSI support, you will be able to use synth plugins. Else
you need to connect to a softsynth via JACK. I generally launch QJackCtl
and QSynth (fluidsynth gui) and then Rosegarden.
I have a real synth, do I need a softsynth? I trust you are
already familiar with these:
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/resources/faq/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/using-rosegarden/en/chapter-0.h
tml (there is a German translation too)
Those seem to describe if you don't have a real midi device. I do so I
figured it would work.
However I did just notice this in sndstat:
Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Midi devices:
0: ES1371
Maybe I need to fix something in kernel...
4:51 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
JFYI, an upgrade to 4-1.0rc3 fixed this particular set of problems. I
am connected to my midi device and can select both midi and audio
instruments. Now I just need to learn how to record...
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
5:01 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
Noah Roberts wrote:
JFYI, an upgrade to 4-1.0rc3 fixed this particular set
of problems. I
am connected to my midi device and can select both midi and audio
instruments. Now I just need to learn how to record...
And I just did. So it looks like all us 64 people have to do is get rc3
from
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tmp/rosegarden-4-1.0rc3.tar.bz2
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bus
5:19 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
On Sunday 13 Feb 2005 21:00, Noah Roberts wrote:
Noah Roberts wrote:
That release will be superseded by rc4 very shortly -- these are
deliberately short-lived test releases. They're also a hint that 1.0
itself will be released very soon.
Chris
JFYI, an upgrade to 4-1.0rc3 fixed this
particular set of problems.
I am connected to my midi device and can select both midi and
audio instruments. Now I just need to learn how to record...
And I just did. So it looks like all us 64 people have to do is get
rc3 from
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tmp/rosegarden-4-1.0rc3.tar.bz2
6:48 p.m.
New subject: rosegarden (was Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
Last Sunday 13 February 2005 21:19, Chris Cannam was like:
That release will be superseded by rc4 very shortly --
these are
deliberately short-lived test releases. They're also a hint that 1.0
itself will be released very soon.
It's so hard to keep up sometimes ... ;-]
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
12 Feb
12 Feb
5:01 p.m.
New subject: OT: spam filtered (Re: [linux-audio-user] midi input)
That's a first...my email program just labeled my own post as spam and
threw it in the garbage :P
--
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful - and so are we
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people - and neither
do we.
-- George W. Bush
9:33 p.m.
On 12 February 2005 at 12:43, Noah Roberts <nroberts(a)reachone.com> wrote:
I think maybe rosegarden is buggy.
What version? Rosegarden 1.0rc2 works here on my Mandrake 10.1
system.
Doesn't help that I am using amd64.
Hmm, Celeron here.
Is there a different program I can use to try and
record midi from the
keyboard? Is there maybe a module I am not loading?
pmidi -l:
Port Client name Port name
64:0 ES1371 - Rawmidi 0 ES1371
Try aconnect -i -o, mine says:
client 0: 'System' [type=kernel]
0 'Timer '
1 'Announce '
client 64: 'ES1371 - Rawmidi 0' [type=kernel]
0 'ES1371 '
lsmod:
snd_seq_midi 8192 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7168 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 55232 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 60836 0
snd_mixer_oss 19648 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_ens1371 23108 5
snd_rawmidi 23136 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_ens1371
snd_seq_device 7884 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm 100964 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ens1371
snd_page_alloc 10760 1 snd_pcm
snd_timer 24008 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_ac97_codec 68740 1 snd_ens1371
snd 58120 21
snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec
Very similar here:
snd-seq-oss 27648 0
snd-pcm-oss 45992 0
snd-mixer-oss 16384 1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-seq-midi 6176 0
snd-seq-midi-event 4480 2 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi
snd-seq 40336 8 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-ens1371 18020 3
snd-rawmidi 17700 2 snd-seq-midi,snd-ens1371
snd-seq-device 5640 3 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi,snd-rawmidi
snd-ac97-codec 59616 1 snd-ens1371
snd-pcm 68616 5 snd-pcm-oss,snd-ens1371,snd-ac97-codec
snd-timer 19204 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
snd-page-alloc 6408 1 snd-pcm
gameport 2176 1 snd-ens1371
snd 38244 15
snd-seq-oss,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-seq,snd-ens1371,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer
soundcore 6112 2 snd,bttv
G'luck....
--
Kevin
13 Feb
13 Feb
12:40 a.m.
Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
On 12 February 2005 at 12:43, Noah Roberts
<nroberts(a)reachone.com> wrote:
Mine says 4.0.98
I'll run an emerge sync and see if an upgrade becomes available. Isn't
one right now.
My output of aconnect looked exactly the same.
I think maybe rosegarden is buggy.
What version? Rosegarden 1.0rc2 works here on my Mandrake 10.1
system.
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