3 Jan
2009
3 Jan
'09
4:07 p.m.
I'm looking for a decent but not necessarily pro-quality USB audio
device for my laptop. The laptop currently has the usual built-in Intel
HDA audio, with only a headphone jack out. I'd prefer something with
line-level output.
I mostly just listen to music via the laptop, but also use it for mixing
live recordings of my church band. (Although I might want to be able to
occasionally record from the mixer's line outs.)
Any opinions on the following devices?
SYBA SD-CM-UAUD USB Stereo Audio Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186035
SoundTech STUSBST LightSnake Stereo USB Audio Interface
http://www.zzounds.com/item--STCSTUSBST
Behringer USB Audio Input/output Adapter (UCA-202)
http://www.universalpart.com/Behringer-USB-Audio-Input-output-Adapter_item_…
M-Audio Transit
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MDOTRANSIT
I think they all work with Linux, but can't really tell about the Syba
or SoundTech devices.
Thanks!
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3 Jan
3 Jan
4:44 p.m.
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On 2009-01-03T11:05:35, david wrote:
I'm looking for a decent but not necessarily
pro-quality USB audio
device for my laptop. The laptop currently has the usual built-in Intel
HDA audio, with only a headphone jack out. I'd prefer something with
line-level output.
Did you check out the archive?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Alalists.stanford.edu%2Flau+…
I mostly just listen to music via the laptop, but also
use it for mixing
live recordings of my church band. (Although I might want to be able to
occasionally record from the mixer's line outs.)
I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101 (the former works, the
latter does not appear well supported yet).
Any opinions on the following devices?
Sorry, I do not have any input on any of the particular devices you
list.
/Allan
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5:07 p.m.
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Allan Wind wrote:
That's a good ways beyond my budget.
No problem, there are way too many audio devices around to keep track of!
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David
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On 2009-01-03T11:05:35, david wrote:
Thanks, looks like I'll have to wade through that a bit.
I'm looking for a decent but not necessarily
pro-quality USB audio
device for my laptop. The laptop currently has the usual built-in Intel
HDA audio, with only a headphone jack out. I'd prefer something with
line-level output.
Did you check out the archive?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Alalists.stanford.edu%2Flau+…
I mostly just
listen to music via the laptop, but also use it for mixing
live recordings of my church band. (Although I might want to be able to
occasionally record from the mixer's line outs.)
I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101 (the former works, the
latter does not appear well supported yet). Any opinions
on the following devices?
Sorry, I do not have any input on any of the particular devices you
list. 
4 Jan
4 Jan
8:33 p.m.
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On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:05:30PM -1000, david wrote:
Allan Wind wrote:
That's a good ways beyond my budget.
No problem, there are way too many audio devices around to keep track of!
I've been happy with my M-Audio FastTrack Pro USB for almost 18 months now.
-ken
On 2009-01-03T11:05:35, david wrote:
Thanks, looks like I'll have to wade through that a bit.
I'm looking for a decent but not necessarily
pro-quality USB audio
device for my laptop. The laptop currently has the usual built-in Intel
HDA audio, with only a headphone jack out. I'd prefer something with
line-level output.
Did you check out the archive?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Alalists.stanford.edu%2Flau+…
I mostly
just listen to music via the laptop, but also use it for mixing
live recordings of my church band. (Although I might want to be able to
occasionally record from the mixer's line outs.)
I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101 (the former works, the
latter does not appear well supported yet). Any
opinions on the following devices?
Sorry, I do not have any input on any of the particular devices you
list. 
6:26 a.m.
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Allan Wind wrote:
I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101 (the former works, the latter does not
appear well supported yet).
I'm still working on lowering the latency of my UA25 with JACK, but I
have to say that I like its audio output. Like the OP my notebook has an
Intel HDA soundchip, it's all right for CD/DVD playback, but the UA25
has much better audio output quality.
Best,
dp
6:35 a.m.
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Hi,
I also use an Edirol UA-25 with jack and find its audio quality remarkable. It works out
of box with alsa. As many other USB soundcards does not have software-controllable
hardmixer devices, all mixing controls are done manually on the box.
Regards
Frank
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De: Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com>
Objet: Re: [LAU] Decent but not necessarily pro quality USB audio for laptop?
À: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Dimanche 4 Janvier 2009, 12h26
Allan Wind wrote:
I'm still working on lowering the
latency of my UA25
with JACK, but I
have to say that I like its audio output. Like the OP my
notebook has an
Intel HDA soundchip, it's all right for CD/DVD
playback, but the UA25
has much better audio output quality.
Best,
dp
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I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101 (the
former works, the latter does
not appear well supported
yet).
6:49 a.m.
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Hi David,
If you have a PCMCIA slot, and only need to use the soundcard with your
laptop, I'd recommend Echo Indigo IO. I bought mine second hand for
about 100 e, and have not regretted. Has worked flawlessly with all
Debian based distros I have tried so far, latency around/less than
10msec with Jack. (Not to say USB-devices wouldn't work just as fine
with Linux nowadays, I just don't have experience about them.)
Tapani
6 Jan
6 Jan
5:12 a.m.
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Tapani Sysimetsä wrote:
Hi David,
If you have a PCMCIA slot, and only need to use the soundcard with your
laptop, I'd recommend Echo Indigo IO. I bought mine second hand for
about 100 e, and have not regretted. Has worked flawlessly with all
Debian based distros I have tried so far, latency around/less than
10msec with Jack. (Not to say USB-devices wouldn't work just as fine
with Linux nowadays, I just don't have experience about them.)
Thanks, but 100E secondhand means it's probably well out of my price
range. My laptop does have a PCMCIA slot. I have a compact flash card
reader that plugs into it, but data transfers are very slow through it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly laptop shares interrupts
with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
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5:54 a.m.
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On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:11:44 david wrote:
Thanks, but 100E secondhand means it's probably
well out of my price
range. My laptop does have a PCMCIA slot. I have a compact flash card
reader that plugs into it, but data transfers are very slow through it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly laptop shares interrupts
with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
You can get your surprise from a simply "cat /proc/interrupts"...
Arnold
7 Jan
7 Jan
3:04 a.m.
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Arnold Krille wrote:
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:11:44 david wrote:
OK, so what does the following mean:
0: 287954 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 10 IO-APIC-edge i8042
8: 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc0
9: 3568 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 122 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 12851 IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 48253 IO-APIC-edge ide1
16: 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, yenta
17: 25387 IO-APIC-fasteoi Intel 82801DB-ICH4, Intel
82801DB-ICH4 Modem
18: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb3
19: 21569 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb2
20: 2 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
21: 1957 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
22: 6207 IO-APIC-fasteoi ath
23: 192291 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb4
If I have a soft synth running, big updates to the screen display will
make it start and stop. But I'm not running an RT kernel here.
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Thanks, but 100E secondhand means it's
probably well out of my price
range. My laptop does have a PCMCIA slot. I have a compact flash card
reader that plugs into it, but data transfers are very slow through it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly laptop shares interrupts
with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
You can get your surprise from a simply "cat /proc/interrupts"...
4:40 a.m.
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On Wednesday 07 January 2009 09:04:37 david wrote:
Arnold Krille wrote:
Your pcmcia is sharing the interrupt with the first usb-port. You can use lsusb
or usbview to see which devices you plugged in there. They will disturb your
pcmcia-experience.
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:11:44 david wrote:
OK, so what does the following mean:
16: 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, yenta Thanks, but 100E secondhand means it's
probably well out of my price
range. My laptop does have a PCMCIA slot. I have a compact flash card
reader that plugs into it, but data transfers are very slow through it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly laptop shares interrupts
with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
You can get your surprise from a simply
"cat /proc/interrupts"... If I have a soft synth running, big updates to the
screen display will
make it start and stop. But I'm not running an RT kernel here.
Please not that while your graphics card isn't listed in the output of "cat
/proc/interrupts" this doesn't mean that it isn't sending interrupts. Only
there is no driver caring about them. So it can still be that the graphics is
disturbing your sound-interrupts...
Arnold
8 Jan
8 Jan
4:51 a.m.
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Arnold Krille wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's the graphics that are hogging things. The Intel
video driver doesn't work properly on my laptop (it blows all the fonts
up by a factor of 10), so I'm using the VESA driver.
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On Wednesday 07 January 2009 09:04:37 david wrote:
That would make sense. Output of lsusb:
Bus 004 Device 010: ID 0781:8889 SanDisk Corp. SDDR-88 Imagemate 8-in-1
Reader
Bus 004 Device 008: ID 041e:3f07 Creative Technology, Ltd
Bus 004 Device 006: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30
Bus 004 Device 005: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0c0b:b311 Dura Micro, Inc. (Acomdata)
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1376:d002 Vimtron Electronics Co., Ltd.
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
So which one is usb1?
Arnold Krille wrote:
Your pcmcia is sharing the interrupt with the first usb-port. You can use lsusb
or usbview to see which devices you plugged in there. They will disturb your
pcmcia-experience. On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:11:44 david wrote:
OK, so what does the following mean:
16: 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, yenta Thanks, but 100E secondhand means it's
probably well out of my price
range. My laptop does have a PCMCIA slot. I have a compact flash card
reader that plugs into it, but data transfers are very slow through it.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly laptop shares interrupts
with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
You can get your surprise from a simply
"cat /proc/interrupts"... If I have a
soft synth running, big updates to the screen display will
make it start and stop. But I'm not running an RT kernel here.
Please not that while your graphics card isn't listed in the output of "cat
/proc/interrupts" this doesn't mean that it isn't sending interrupts. Only
there is no driver caring about them. So it can still be that the graphics is
disturbing your sound-interrupts... 
6 Jan
6 Jan
5:06 p.m.
New subject: Decent but not necessarily pro quality USB audio for laptop?
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:11:44AM -1000, david wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the silly
laptop shares
interrupts with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
Not considered very harmful these days. But by all means measure the
latency in response to those interrupts, see if there is a real problem.
Perhaps one of the drivers needs to defer some processing to soft-IRQ.
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7 Jan
7 Jan
3:08 a.m.
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James Cameron wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:11:44AM -1000, david wrote:
What does "these days" mean in terms of hardware? The laptop is running
a 1.5GHz Celeron M (the Celeron that's a kind of cut-down Mobile Pentium
4, with way too small a processor cache for the P4 architecture).
Effective throughput is about the same as a 1GHz non-M Celeron.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the
silly laptop shares
interrupts with PCMCIA, video and audio hardware!
Not considered very harmful these days. But by all means measure the
latency in response to those interrupts, see if there is a real problem.
Perhaps one of the drivers needs to defer some processing to soft-IRQ.
Sorry - ????
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authenticity, honesty, community
6 Jan
6 Jan
5:21 a.m.
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Dave Phillips wrote:
Allan Wind wrote:
The other limitation of my Intel HDA sound chip that the Behringer I
ordered will fix is the inability to record anything. The laptop has a
1/8" Mic input, but the ALSA drivers for the Intel chips can't record
anything through it.
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I was contemplating the Edirol UA-25 or UI-101
(the former works, the latter does not appear well supported yet).
I'm still working on lowering the latency of my UA25 with JACK, but I
have to say that I like its audio output. Like the OP my notebook has an
Intel HDA soundchip, it's all right for CD/DVD playback, but the UA25
has much better audio output quality. 
7 Jan
7 Jan
11:04 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:21:24AM -1000, david wrote:
The other limitation of my Intel HDA sound chip that
the Behringer I
ordered will fix is the inability to record anything. The laptop has a
1/8" Mic input, but the ALSA drivers for the Intel chips can't record
anything through it.
If you haven't already, you might try toggling the CAPTURE
setting and umuting the MIC levels in the alsamixer window.
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12:49 p.m.
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Joel Roth wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:21:24AM -1000, david wrote:
I tried that. Apparently the hardware fills a buffer and is supposed to
notify the system the buffer is ready - but the system either never gets
the notification or never responds to it. The last time I tried that was
a good while ago, though.
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The other limitation of my Intel HDA sound chip
that the Behringer I
ordered will fix is the inability to record anything. The laptop has a
1/8" Mic input, but the ALSA drivers for the Intel chips can't record
anything through it.
If you haven't already, you might try toggling the CAPTURE
setting and umuting the MIC levels in the alsamixer window.
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