7 Aug
2023
7 Aug
'23
1:43 a.m.
I'm familiar with the standard foot pedal design - single-axis. Are
there foot pedals that would work like two-axis joystick controllers on
keyboards?
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7 Aug
7 Aug
1:35 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
* david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> [2023-08-07 01:43]:
I'm familiar with the standard foot pedal design -
single-axis. Are there
foot pedals that would work like two-axis joystick controllers on keyboards?
The
pedals in the Trautonium have a sideways axis, and seem to be
modified earnie ball models, see
https://www.trautoniks.de/com/images/Pedal_S_600.jpg
on https://www.trautoniks.de/com/
if this helps. I am wondering if any game controllers are capable of
doing two axes. Please report any success back here.
1:36 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
* Peter P. <peterparker(a)fastmail.com> [2023-08-07 13:35]:
* david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> [2023-08-07
01:43]:
Just replying to myself here, the trautonium pedals seem to have
sideways switches only. See https://www.doepfer.de/traut/traut_e.htm
I'm familiar with the standard foot pedal
design - single-axis. Are there
foot pedals that would work like two-axis joystick controllers on keyboards?
The
pedals in the Trautonium have a sideways axis, and seem to be
modified earnie ball models, see
https://www.trautoniks.de/com/images/Pedal_S_600.jpg
on https://www.trautoniks.de/com/
8 Aug
8 Aug
1:07 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
On 8/7/23 01:36, Peter P. wrote:
* Peter P. <peterparker(a)fastmail.com>
[2023-08-07 13:35]:
Thanks, Peter. Trautoniks has pedals, but they're just a pair of
single-axis ones.
I found the Keith McMillen SoftStep2 that seems to offer an array of X/Y
axis controllers on an 18" foot pedal, but $369 is a lot.
https://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/
According to their documentation, it's MIDI class-compliant.
A lot of options in my searches came from the gaming world. Also, foot
controllers used to provide accessibility. A few for controlling things
like factory machinery. And at least one for controlling a crane used in
the film industry for moving cameras around.
Lots of options, but none I'm geared up to test. Oh, well! Perhaps a
pair of expression pedals - one mapped to X axis, the other to Y axis,
then use them together.
I'm a boring old keyboard player. Playing guitar while seated is
perfectly fine with me! 😁
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"My password is the last 8 digits of π."
* david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> [2023-08-07
01:43]:
Just replying to myself here, the trautonium
pedals seem to have
sideways switches only. See https://www.doepfer.de/traut/traut_e.htm
I'm familiar with the standard foot pedal
design - single-axis. Are there
foot pedals that would work like two-axis joystick controllers on keyboards?
The
pedals in the Trautonium have a sideways axis, and seem to be
modified earnie ball models, see
https://www.trautoniks.de/com/images/Pedal_S_600.jpg
on https://www.trautoniks.de/com/ 
3:08 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 01:07:28PM -1000, david wrote:
Lots of options, but none I'm geared up to test.
Oh, well! Perhaps a pair of
expression pedals - one mapped to X axis, the other to Y axis, then use them
together.
You could try the pedals as used by some flight sims, these could give
you 3 axes. Pressing the tips normally controls the brakes separately
for L and R, these should be proportional but may be spring loaded and
come back up if you release them.
The two pedals can also slide forward and back - they are linked, as
one goes forward the other will go backwards. This normally controls
the rudder and nose wheel steering.
Could be fun trying these for music...
Ciao,
--
FA
10 Aug
10 Aug
7:39 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
On 8/8/23 03:08, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 01:07:28PM -1000, david wrote:
That would remind me of my days playing a pump organ. Both feet were
pumping away, so a lever by one knee switched between "regular" and
"full" sound, while a lever by the other knee acted as the swell pedal.
A good workout!
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David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
"My password is the last 8 digits of π."
Lots of options, but none I'm geared up to
test. Oh, well! Perhaps a pair of
expression pedals - one mapped to X axis, the other to Y axis, then use them
together.
You could try the pedals as used by some flight sims, these could give
you 3 axes. Pressing the tips normally controls the brakes separately
for L and R, these should be proportional but may be spring loaded and
come back up if you release them.
The two pedals can also slide forward and back - they are linked, as
one goes forward the other will go backwards. This normally controls
the rudder and nose wheel steering.
Could be fun trying these for music...
Ciao,
9 Aug
9 Aug
2:29 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
Here are some earlier discussions on the same topic:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/question-would-an-expre…
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=34120.0
https://www.nime.org/proceedings/2018/nime2018_paper0057.pdf
Anyway, the answer is yes, two-axis pedals do exist.
Here's one:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/4e-dual-axis-expression-pedal/
(and there's a related pedal from the same manufacturer:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/m440-dual-axis-stereo-volume-pedal/
)
You might even score one secondhand:
https://reverb.com/item/4581702-db-instrument-amp-4e-dual-axis-expression-p…
More coverage:
https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/09/18/db-instrument-amp-releases-4e-dual…
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24652.0
Here's another, although this isn't standalone, it's built in to the
Zoom G5 multi-fx unit guitar floor processor (sometimes marketed as a
"3D expression pedal" or a "Z-pedal"):
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/zoom-g5-549897
https://maxwellspedalreviews.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/zoom-g5-2/
https://guitargearfinder.com/reviews/multi-effects-pedals/zoom-g5-review/
https://guitarsix.com/blog/lessons/zoom-g5-guitar-effects-review/256/1/
Good luck with your endeavours,
Sam
10 Aug
10 Aug
7:35 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
Lots of ideas there - thanks!
On 8/8/23 14:29, Sam Kuper wrote:
Here are some earlier discussions on the same topic:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/question-would-an-expre…
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=34120.0
https://www.nime.org/proceedings/2018/nime2018_paper0057.pdf
Anyway, the answer is yes, two-axis pedals do exist.
Here's one:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/4e-dual-axis-expression-pedal/
(and there's a related pedal from the same manufacturer:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/m440-dual-axis-stereo-volume-pedal/
)
You might even score one secondhand:
https://reverb.com/item/4581702-db-instrument-amp-4e-dual-axis-expression-p…
More coverage:
https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/09/18/db-instrument-amp-releases-4e-dual…
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24652.0
Here's another, although this isn't standalone, it's built in to the
Zoom G5 multi-fx unit guitar floor processor (sometimes marketed as a
"3D expression pedal" or a "Z-pedal"):
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/zoom-g5-549897
https://maxwellspedalreviews.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/zoom-g5-2/
https://guitargearfinder.com/reviews/multi-effects-pedals/zoom-g5-review/
https://guitarsix.com/blog/lessons/zoom-g5-guitar-effects-review/256/1/
Good luck with your endeavours,
Sam
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10:31 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
Great list.
Here is a (unsuccesful) kickstarter that's related:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wray/the-biggest-foot-balance-board-to…
You may still get one:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wray/the-biggest-foot-balance-board-to…
Am 8/9/23 um 02:29 schrieb Sam Kuper:
Here are some earlier discussions on the same topic:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/question-would-an-expre…
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=34120.0
https://www.nime.org/proceedings/2018/nime2018_paper0057.pdf
Anyway, the answer is yes, two-axis pedals do exist.
Here's one:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/4e-dual-axis-expression-pedal/
(and there's a related pedal from the same manufacturer:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/m440-dual-axis-stereo-volume-pedal/
)
You might even score one secondhand:
https://reverb.com/item/4581702-db-instrument-amp-4e-dual-axis-expression-p…
More coverage:
https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/09/18/db-instrument-amp-releases-4e-dual…
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24652.0
Here's another, although this isn't standalone, it's built in to the
Zoom G5 multi-fx unit guitar floor processor (sometimes marketed as a
"3D expression pedal" or a "Z-pedal"):
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/zoom-g5-549897
https://maxwellspedalreviews.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/zoom-g5-2/
https://guitargearfinder.com/reviews/multi-effects-pedals/zoom-g5-review/
https://guitarsix.com/blog/lessons/zoom-g5-guitar-effects-review/256/1/
Good luck with your endeavours,
Sam
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11 Aug
1:28 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Re: Are there two-axis joystick-style foot pedals?
Actually, that makes sense to me. A shame they didn't make their funding
goal. Something like the Wii Balance Board would fit under a keyboard stand.
I see performance videos of bands using touch surfaces with multiple
fingers on it, the performer careful tilting each finger or pressing
harder or softer to vary the effect applied. I would think a multi-axis
foot control like the Balance Board or such could do something very
similar without having to tie up my "third hand" on a control surface...
Perhaps a modified octopus would be a great keyboardist? 😁
On 8/10/23 05:26, Chris Caudle wrote:
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David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
"My password is the last 8 digits of π."
Here is a
(unsuccesful) kickstarter that's related:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wray/the-biggest-foot-balance-board-to…
That is funny, I thought of suggesting something like that as a joke,
but decided it was not a funny enough joke to bother replying. I
should have known that someone would have actually tried to make it work.
-- Chris C
On Aug 10 2023, at 3:31 am, Max <abonnements(a)revolwear.com> wrote:
Great list.
Here is a (unsuccesful) kickstarter that's related:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wray/the-biggest-foot-balance-board-to…
You may still get one:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wray/the-biggest-foot-balance-board-to…
Am 8/9/23 um 02:29 schrieb Sam Kuper:
Here are some earlier discussions on the same
topic:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/question-would-an-expre…
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=34120.0
https://www.nime.org/proceedings/2018/nime2018_paper0057.pdf
Anyway, the answer is yes, two-axis pedals do exist.
Here's one:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/4e-dual-axis-expression-pedal/
(and there's a related pedal from the same manufacturer:
https://dbinstrumentamp.com/products/m440-dual-axis-stereo-volume-pedal/
)
You might even score one secondhand:
https://reverb.com/item/4581702-db-instrument-amp-4e-dual-axis-expression-p…
More coverage:
https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/09/18/db-instrument-amp-releases-4e-dual…
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24652.0
Here's another, although this isn't standalone, it's built in to the
Zoom G5 multi-fx unit guitar floor processor (sometimes marketed as a
"3D expression pedal" or a "Z-pedal"):
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/zoom-g5-549897
https://maxwellspedalreviews.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/zoom-g5-2/
https://guitargearfinder.com/reviews/multi-effects-pedals/zoom-g5-review/
https://guitarsix.com/blog/lessons/zoom-g5-guitar-effects-review/256/1/
Good luck with your endeavours,
Sam
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