12 Dec
2008
12 Dec
'08
8:55 p.m.
Hi to everybody,
I'm a new user of this mailing list; I use debian lenny and slackware on
my notebook; I'm a musician, but only since a few time I'm trying ti use
audio and musical software. I'd like - but I don't know if it's possible
- to change 'volume' of a long note while a long note is playing, as I
can do it manually changing a slider's position. I don't know how to do
it, and which software I can use. I had a look to Rosegarden, QTractor
and Muse, but I found never about.
I'm a piano teacher,
hi everybody
confrey
13 Dec
13 Dec
8:03 a.m.
confrey wrote:
Hi to everybody,
I'm a new user of this mailing list; I use debian lenny and slackware on
my notebook; I'm a musician, but only since a few time I'm trying ti use
audio and musical software. I'd like - but I don't know if it's possible
- to change 'volume' of a long note while a long note is playing, as I
can do it manually changing a slider's position. I don't know how to do
it, and which software I can use. I had a look to Rosegarden, QTractor
and Muse, but I found never about.
Hi Confrey,
You want to use MIDI continuous controller #7, a.k.a. the MIDI volume
controller. I use it for exactly the purpose you describe. Basically,
however long the note is, you'll fill that length with CC #7 values
ascending or descending, as you like. Some MIDI sequencers include a
crescendo/decrescendo fill feature that does it for you.
Best,
dp
10:30 a.m.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
confrey wrote:
For individual notes, I would use CC#11 (expression) rather than CC#7.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
Hi to everybody,
I'm a new user of this mailing list; I use debian lenny and slackware on
my notebook; I'm a musician, but only since a few time I'm trying ti use
audio and musical software. I'd like - but I don't know if it's possible
- to change 'volume' of a long note while a long note is playing, as I
can do it manually changing a slider's position. I don't know how to do
it, and which software I can use. I had a look to Rosegarden, QTractor
and Muse, but I found never about.
Hi Confrey,
You want to use MIDI continuous controller #7, a.k.a. the MIDI volume
controller. I use it for exactly the purpose you describe. Basically,
however long the note is, you'll fill that length with CC #7 values
ascending or descending, as you like. Some MIDI sequencers include a
crescendo/decrescendo fill feature that does it for you.
10:41 a.m.
Brett McCoy wrote:
For individual notes, I would use CC#11 (expression)
rather than CC#7
Hi Brett,
I've always used CC #7. Is there an audible difference in the effect of
the controller ? IIRC the resolution is the same.
I suppose a deciding difference might be the destination. Many MIDI
synths/keyboards employ CC #7 as the global volume control.
Best,
dp
10:49 a.m.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
I've always used CC #7. Is there an audible
difference in the effect of
the controller ? IIRC the resolution is the same.
I suppose a deciding difference might be the destination. Many MIDI
synths/keyboards employ CC #7 as the global volume control.
Yep, that's what I use -- CC#7 for overall track volume and CC#11 for
individual notes. But... use whatever works for you! I guess the
deciding issue is if you use #7 for notes, then later decide you need
to raise the overall level of the track, how do you do it? You'd have
to edit all of your CC#7 automation.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
10:57 a.m.
Brett McCoy wrote:
... that's what I use -- CC#7 for overall track
volume and CC#11 for
individual notes. But... use whatever works for you! I guess the
deciding issue is if you use #7 for notes, then later decide you need
to raise the overall level of the track, how do you do it? You'd have
to edit all of your CC#7 automation.
No problem, my sequencer include a controller mapping function. :) All
modern sequencers should include such a function.
Best,
dp
11:08 a.m.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Brett McCoy wrote:
Yep, any decent sequencer will let you map stuff any way you like (you
could do the reverse, CC#11 for volume and CC#7 for expression). A lot
of VSTs I use let you assign CCs to individual controls in the GUI so
you can automate with a pedal, mod-wheel, MIDI automation data, etc.
-- Brett
------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden;
If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
... that's what I use -- CC#7 for overall track volume and CC#11 for
individual notes. But... use whatever works for you! I guess the
deciding issue is if you use #7 for notes, then later decide you need
to raise the overall level of the track, how do you do it? You'd have
to edit all of your CC#7 automation.
No problem, my sequencer include a controller mapping function. :) All
modern sequencers should include such a function. 
8:06 a.m.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 01:55:07AM +0100, confrey wrote:
Hi to everybody,
I'm a new user of this mailing list; I use debian lenny and slackware on
my notebook; I'm a musician, but only since a few time I'm trying ti use
audio and musical software. I'd like - but I don't know if it's possible
- to change 'volume' of a long note while a long note is playing, as I
can do it manually changing a slider's position. I don't know how to do
it, and which software I can use. I had a look to Rosegarden, QTractor
and Muse, but I found never about.
I'm a piano teacher,
hi everybody
Try to change the midi controller n.11 (expression) within rosegarden
(or your favorite midi program), I think it is what you want. It is
commonly used to simulate loud/soft variations in notes while they are
playing.
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