On 5/17/06, Loki Davison <loki.davison(a)gmail.com> wrote: What PCI cards? Those I've seen doesn't have much inputs. Do you some recommendations? Yo'av.

On 5/17/06, Yo'av Moshe <bjesus(a)gmail.com> wrote: ahh..... ;) pci has way, way more options that firewire. Personally i'd only use firewire if i had a laptop, and i didn't have cardbus slots in the laptop, and i couldn't buy a laptop that did.... ;) I.e i wouldn't use firewire without some freak event. M-audio, RME and echo pci gear all works well under linux. M-audio 1010, echo layla seem like nice options for a decent amount of inputs. The layla can do adat as well, and with both cards you can have multiple cards in one machine. So a few m-audio 1010's should satisfy any need. Depends if you need 24+ inputs or what. 8 is fine for me.

I could be wrong but I believe the Multiface or Digiface may be an option for you if you are worried about pickup from the internals of the computer and arent comfortable shielding your sound card yourself. I suppose that primarily depends on where the A/D happens on that card though, obviously with the Digiface it is before you even get to the card on most of it, I think the multiface it is in the breakout box, so electrical pickup shouldnt be a problem. That being said, I run a RME HDSP 9632 in my box, havent had a single problem with electrical interference. I dont do classical recording, I DO do a variety of sound effects for theater though so I get a range of dynamics and frequencies. YMMV of course, but even in those cases where you do there are some shielding techniques you can apply, I believe Sound On Sound did an article or two on this about a year back by Martin Walker. Firewire is a nice handy interface spec, but is not the answer to every situation. Seablade

Loki Davison wrote: Does it matter? It's a new technology and currently "cool" so plenty of people are going to want to have access to it. The best part is that we now have support for a broad spectrum of the available devices thanks to the freebob team. me => Ducking for cover ;) -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/ - The Linux Audio Users guide ======================================== "Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will become reality" - Macka B

On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 19:01 +1000, Loki Davison wrote: Also AFAICT firewire will never be capable of latency as low as a good PCI device. Lee

jan wrote: I think it was the reference to the Renaissance lute. I wondered about that too. No accountng for skin depth, I guess. :) Best, dp

jan wrote: I'm being facetious, of course. Loki's usually pretty level-headed, maybe he got irked by the reference to "people who ought to know about these things (musicians)", though that didn't strike me as an insult in any way. Best, dp

On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 06:40 +0100, jan wrote: you're "friends who ought to know more about these things" don't know enough. consumer audio devices may (and do) suffer from this, but serious pro/pro-sumer devices do not. its not even required that the analog i/o be outside the box - lots of people love the iZ RADAR system and it puts all of its converters *inside* a 4U chassis with a regular intel-based computer. of course, iZ does know a bit about high end power regulation and converter clock coupling :) this is true.

el Thu, 18 May 2006 06:40:45 +0100 jan <jan(a)talentex.demon.co.uk> escribió: if you analyze this expression a bit more carefully, you'll soon realize it's an oxymoron. --