18 Dec
2007
18 Dec
'07
10:51 a.m.
I use Audacity to record the sound and save it to a WAV file.
I make a copy, and work on the copy. I use Audacity to break up
the huge WAV file into its various tracks and work on the tracks
individually. That's easier on the CPU and if you screw up its not
such a problem.
There's a useful denoise filter on Audacity I sometimes use, but
most of the real work is done with the Gnome Wave Cleaner. It's free.
http://gwc.sourceforge.net
The GWC has just about everything I need; noise filters, declickers,
etc. After a track is clean enough, I use Audacity to amplify it to its
maximum below the clipping barrier.
If you're picky like I am, its a long and distressing job. Some records
just can not be cleaned. I only clean records that there are no CDs for.
Otherwise, its not worth the time and aggrivation. Good Luck!
18 Dec
18 Dec
11:17 a.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard soundcard? And how should I
make the connection?
studio 32
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From: millward(a)ms.umanitoba.ca
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:48:53 -0600
Subject: [LAU] from cassette/LP to cd (which prog?)
I use Audacity to record the sound and save it to a WAV file.
I make a copy, and work on the copy. I use Audacity to break up
the huge WAV file into its various tracks and work on the tracks
individually. That's easier on the CPU and if you screw up its not
such a problem.
There's a useful denoise filter on Audacity I sometimes use, but
most of the real work is done with the Gnome Wave Cleaner. It's free.
http://gwc.sourceforge.net
The GWC has just about everything I need; noise filters, declickers,
etc. After a track is clean enough, I use Audacity to amplify it to its
maximum below the clipping barrier.
If you're picky like I am, its a long and distressing job. Some records
just can not be cleaned. I only clean records that there are no CDs for.
Otherwise, its not worth the time and aggrivation. Good Luck!
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12:03 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 alle 15:17:56, Studio 32 ha scritto:
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
You can't plug the turntable directly to the soundcard, you have to use
a preamp that has RIAA equalization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
Typical home stereo amplifiers have that on the "phono" input.
You can then take the "tape" outputs to the computer.
Or you can try to fix the eq in software but even if I've never tried I
don't think it sounds as good. I believe that there are some modern
preamps that have a phono input (m-audio, maybe?) but I've never
investigated them so much.
studio 32
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1:41 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2007 schrieb Emiliano Grilli:
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 alle 15:17:56, Studio 32 ha
scritto:
Not necessarily but most often. The turntables manufactured in the old GDR
seem to have the equalizing preamp builtin. Nice feature...
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
You can't plug the turntable
directly to the soundcard, you have to use
a preamp that has RIAA equalization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization Or you can try to fix the eq in software but even if
I've never tried I
don't think it sounds as good.
This is a rather easy (and working) solution. I was told that Jamin has a
preset/curve for exactly this. The RIAA equalization is just an equalization
and as long as you do not overload your inputs with the distorted signal of
the turntable, you can equalize the RIAA setting yourself...
Have fun,
Arnold
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9:42 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:03 +0100, Emiliano Grilli wrote:
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 alle 15:17:56, Studio 32 ha
scritto:
Very simple solution. Run the turntable outputs into ANY kind of
preamp, run the preamp into JAMin using the RIAA EQ curve (included in
the examples directory), record with Ardour or other JACK enabled
recorder.
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http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chardonnay in one hand, chocolate in the other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming 'WOO HOO, what a ride'"
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
You can't plug the turntable directly to the soundcard, you have to use
a preamp that has RIAA equalization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
Typical home stereo amplifiers have that on the "phono" input.
You can then take the "tape" outputs to the computer.
Or you can try to fix the eq in software but even if I've never tried I
don't think it sounds as good. I believe that there are some modern
preamps that have a phono input (m-audio, maybe?) but I've never
investigated them so much.
9:51 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 19:30 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:03 +0100, Emiliano Grilli
wrote:
Oops. Forgot to mention GWC (Gnome Wave Cleaner). Also, record at
the highest rate you can - I record mine at 96KHz. The filters in GWC
(and others) do less damage that way. In addition, if you've got a ton
of scratches, wash the records first in a light detergent and, this may
sound odd, but you can eliminate a lot or the scratch and crackle by
recording with a little standing water on the record (of course it may
not be the best thing for your cartridge, but it didn't seem to bother
mine at all ;-)
--
Jan 'Evil Twin' Depner
http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chardonnay in one hand, chocolate in the other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming 'WOO HOO, what a ride'"
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 alle 15:17:56, Studio
32 ha scritto:
Very simple solution. Run the turntable outputs into ANY kind of
preamp, run the preamp into JAMin using the RIAA EQ curve (included in
the examples directory), record with Ardour or other JACK enabled
recorder.
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
You can't plug the turntable directly to the soundcard, you have to use
a preamp that has RIAA equalization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
Typical home stereo amplifiers have that on the "phono" input.
You can then take the "tape" outputs to the computer.
Or you can try to fix the eq in software but even if I've never tried I
don't think it sounds as good. I believe that there are some modern
preamps that have a phono input (m-audio, maybe?) but I've never
investigated them so much.
10:29 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
keep in mind the RIAA curve requires 60db of filtration (or gain), so if
you try this method record at 24bits and good equipment to maximixe your
dynamic range.
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 19:30 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:03 +0100, Emiliano Grilli
wrote:
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 alle 15:17:56, Studio
32 ha scritto:
Very simple solution. Run the turntable outputs into ANY kind of
preamp, run the preamp into JAMin using the RIAA EQ curve (included in
the examples directory), record with Ardour or other JACK enabled
recorder.
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
You can't plug the turntable directly to the soundcard, you have to use
a preamp that has RIAA equalization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
Typical home stereo amplifiers have that on the "phono" input.
You can then take the "tape" outputs to the computer.
Or you can try to fix the eq in software but even if I've never tried I
don't think it sounds as good. I believe that there are some modern
preamps that have a phono input (m-audio, maybe?) but I've never
investigated them so much.
12:21 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
Save yourself some trouble and don't use your average onboard soundcard. At
least take something that's external like a simple usb device or at least a
nice PCI soundcard. I know creative has some USB-cards, don't know: are they
supported? Anyone?
For two reasons: 1. when you record you might get extract unwanted
noise/buzzing. 2. For playback, you might hear something trying to clean up,
but there's really nothing there.
Best do it with headphones or nice speakers, connect you PC to your stereo,
if you've got an OK one.
If you're really cleaning records, not tapes, I think it's wise to use your
cards mic-inputs or use a good phono-amp. Otherwise my bet would be do it as
simple and short as possible. So exclude everything that's not needed, it
might add additional "audio dirt".
Kinest regards
Julien
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12:59 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
If you are thinking of buying gear to d othe job, I have wondered about these:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=usb+turntable&btnG=Google+Sear…
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=usb+tape+deck&btnG=Google+Sear…
all the best,
drew
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 11:21, Julien Claassen wrote:
Save yourself some trouble and don't use your
average onboard soundcard. At
least take something that's external like a simple usb device or at least a
nice PCI soundcard. I know creative has some USB-cards, don't know: are
they supported? Anyone?
For two reasons: 1. when you record you might get extract unwanted
noise/buzzing. 2. For playback, you might hear something trying to clean
up, but there's really nothing there.
Best do it with headphones or nice speakers, connect you PC to your
stereo, if you've got an OK one.
If you're really cleaning records, not tapes, I think it's wise to use
your cards mic-inputs or use a good phono-amp. Otherwise my bet would be do
it as simple and short as possible. So exclude everything that's not
needed, it might add additional "audio dirt".
Kinest regards
Julien
--------
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======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
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12:42 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
Am Dienstag, den 18.12.2007, 15:17 +0000 schrieb Studio 32:
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a
onboard
soundcard? And how should I make the connection?
Usually, you will need a preamp with built-in equalization. This is why
most hi-fi amplifiers (used to) have a special phono input.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization>
If your home stereo has such a phono input you could connect its
tape-out to the line-in jack of your recording device.
Jan
10:16 p.m.
New subject: from cassette/LP to cd (which hardware?)
record with audacity and split with wavbreaker
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 15:17 +0000, Studio 32 wrote:
Thanks for the advices (still welcome).
What about the hardware part? Just a LP player, and a onboard soundcard? And how should I
make the connection?
studio 32
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From: millward(a)ms.umanitoba.ca
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:48:53 -0600
Subject: [LAU] from cassette/LP to cd (which prog?)
I use Audacity to record the sound and save it to a WAV file.
I make a copy, and work on the copy. I use Audacity to break up
the huge WAV file into its various tracks and work on the tracks
individually. That's easier on the CPU and if you screw up its not
such a problem.
There's a useful denoise filter on Audacity I sometimes use, but
most of the real work is done with the Gnome Wave Cleaner. It's free.
http://gwc.sourceforge.net
The GWC has just about everything I need; noise filters, declickers,
etc. After a track is clean enough, I use Audacity to amplify it to its
maximum below the clipping barrier.
If you're picky like I am, its a long and distressing job. Some records
just can not be cleaned. I only clean records that there are no CDs for.
Otherwise, its not worth the time and aggrivation. Good Luck!
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19 Dec
1:39 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 09:48:53AM -0600, millward wrote:
I use Audacity to record the sound and save it to a
WAV file.
I make a copy, and work on the copy. I use Audacity to break up
the huge WAV file into its various tracks and work on the tracks
individually. That's easier on the CPU and if you screw up its not
such a problem.
There's a useful denoise filter on Audacity I sometimes use, but
most of the real work is done with the Gnome Wave Cleaner. It's free.
http://gwc.sourceforge.net
The GWC has just about everything I need; noise filters, declickers,
etc. After a track is clean enough, I use Audacity to amplify it to its
maximum below the clipping barrier.
If you're picky like I am, its a long and distressing job. Some records
just can not be cleaned. I only clean records that there are no CDs for.
Otherwise, its not worth the time and aggrivation. Good Luck!
Good catch. I'd forgotten about gwc. I used Gnome Wave Cleaner about 5 years ago to
clean up some very dirty cassette recordings I made 25 years ago. Here's an example of
one that GWC rescued from under a thick layer of tape hiss:
http://www.restivo.org/blog/podpress_trac/web/152/1/astronomy.ogg
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