8 Aug
2007
8 Aug
'07
4:04 a.m.
Hi All,
Apologies if this is the wrong list, but I figured since it's Linux
audio related this might be appropriate.
I am trying to run a [GPL] app under Wine, and read it's midi output
into Pd. Midi input using alsa works fine now, and there are options
in the program - modplug tracker - for midi output, but nothing seems
to come out of any alsa midi channels. I suspect that the default alsa
midi output is to Midi Through and I just don't know how to redirect alsa
midi through back into Pd. There is a lot of conflicting information on
the net about what to do, so I wonder if anyone can tell me if they have
apps running under Wine which are outputting into a Linux alsa midi app?
I am running Wine 0.9.25 which is the default in Debian Etch right now.
Best,
Chris.
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8 Aug
8 Aug
4:09 a.m.
On Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 02:04:39AM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote:
Hi All,
Apologies if this is the wrong list, but I figured since it's Linux
audio related this might be appropriate.
I am trying to run a [GPL] app under Wine, and read it's midi output
into Pd. Midi input using alsa works fine now, and there are options
in the program - modplug tracker - for midi output, but nothing seems
to come out of any alsa midi channels. I suspect that the default alsa
midi output is to Midi Through and I just don't know how to redirect alsa
midi through back into Pd. There is a lot of conflicting information on
the net about what to do, so I wonder if anyone can tell me if they have
apps running under Wine which are outputting into a Linux alsa midi app?
I am running Wine 0.9.25 which is the default in Debian Etch right now.
tried with 0.9.42?
i was wondering why even sid is only at 0.9.37 - really weird. anyways the newer debs are
here:
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/
Best,
Chris.
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11 Aug
11 Aug
11:22 a.m.
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 06:09:35AM +0000, cr wrote:
On Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 02:04:39AM -0400, Chris
McCormick wrote:
Cool, thanks for the tip. This doesn't instantly fix my problem, but it
might help to be running the cutting edge version.
Best,
Chris.
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I am running Wine 0.9.25 which is the default in
Debian Etch right now.
tried with 0.9.42?
i was wondering why even sid is only at 0.9.37 - really weird. anyways the newer debs are
here:
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/ 
8 Aug
8 Aug
8:20 a.m.
Chris McCormick wrote:
Apologies if this is the wrong list, but I figured
since it's Linux
audio related this might be appropriate.
I am trying to run a [GPL] app under Wine, and read it's midi output
into Pd. Midi input using alsa works fine now, and there are options
in the program - modplug tracker - for midi output, but nothing seems
to come out of any alsa midi channels. I suspect that the default alsa
midi output is to Midi Through and I just don't know how to redirect alsa
midi through back into Pd. There is a lot of conflicting information on
the net about what to do, so I wonder if anyone can tell me if they have
apps running under Wine which are outputting into a Linux alsa midi app?
I am running Wine 0.9.25 which is the default in Debian Etch right now.
Hi Chris,
Normally the Windows app should have a MIDI I/O Preferences dialog. I
select the ports within the app, then route the sends & receives via
QJackCtl's MIDI connections panel. The apps themselves won't be shown,
but of course the MIDI Thru and other ports will be there.
Btw, what audio driver are you using with Wine ? I'm getting great
results from the wineasio driver.
Best,
dp
11 Aug
11 Aug
11:32 a.m.
Hi Dave,
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 06:51:28AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
Unfortunately this one doesn't have a Midi Output select field (only a
midi input select). Each instrument has two settings though:
"Midi PRG" which is a number box, and below that there's a select box
labelled "Output" which has a list of "midi ch1" to "midi
ch16" and then
it changes to "FX1 send" through to "FX50 send". I wonder if I am
mistaken and this is an internal thing and Modplug doesn't actually do
midi output. I guess I will have to track down a windows machine to test
that out.
One other weird thing on my laptop is that I have snd-seq-virmidi loaded
but I do'nt see any virtual midi ports listed.
I am trying to run a [GPL] app under Wine, and
read it's midi output
into Pd.
Normally the Windows app should have a MIDI I/O Preferences dialog. I
select the ports within the app, then route the sends & receives via
QJackCtl's MIDI connections panel. The apps themselves won't be shown,
but of course the MIDI Thru and other ports will be there. Btw, what audio driver are you using with Wine ?
I'm getting great
results from the wineasio driver.
I don't know anything about wineasio. Asio [apart from being the
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] is the Windows thing for
doing multiple audio outs isn't it? Does that mean that I might be able
to pipe audio out of Modplug into Pd? That would be cool.
Best,
Chris.
-------------------
http://mccormick.cx
11:57 a.m.
Chris McCormick wrote:
I wonder if I am mistaken and this is an internal thing
and Modplug doesn't actually do
midi output. I guess I will have to track down a windows machine to test that out.
Don't bother. ModPlug doesn't do MIDI Out.
One other weird thing on my laptop is that I have
snd-seq-virmidi loaded
but I do'nt see any virtual midi ports listed.
Uh-oh... Nothing in the QJackCtl MIDI Connections panel ?
I don't know anything about wineasio. Asio [apart
from being the
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] is the Windows thing for
doing multiple audio outs isn't it? Does that mean that I might be able
to pipe audio out of Modplug into Pd? That would be cool.
Yes, you would be able to do that with the wineasio driver, it's pretty
cool.
Best,
dp
12:05 p.m.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:29:35AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Nope. Nothing in aconnect -li or -lo or amidi -l either. Don't trouble
yourself thinking about that though - if I really need to fix it, I'll
look it up.
Great, thanks for the tip! I will look it up.
Best,
Chris.
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http://mccormick.cx
Chris McCormick wrote:
After trawling through forum posts it seems that people accomplish this
with a VST2MIDI plugin in ModPlug. I'll give that a shot.
Apparently the newer builds of Open Modplug (the community developed
version) run under Wine finally, so that might be another option.
I wonder if I am mistaken and this is an internal
thing and Modplug
doesn't actually do
midi output. I guess I will have to track down a windows machine to test
that out.
Don't bother. ModPlug doesn't do MIDI Out. One other weird
thing on my laptop is that I have snd-seq-virmidi loaded
but I do'nt see any virtual midi ports listed.
Uh-oh... Nothing in the QJackCtl MIDI Connections panel ? I don't
know anything about wineasio. Asio [apart from being the
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] is the Windows thing for
doing multiple audio outs isn't it? Does that mean that I might be able
to pipe audio out of Modplug into Pd? That would be cool.
Yes, you would be able to do that with the wineasio driver, it's pretty
cool.
13 Aug
13 Aug
3:06 a.m.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:05:38AM -0400, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:29:35AM -0400, Dave
Phillips wrote:
Just for future reference, this works really well, but uses a non-Free
gratis plugin - Google "VST2MID midibag" to find it. The midi note arrives
about 100ms in Pure Data before the note is actually played by ModPlug,
so there is some room to work with. You can use a [del 100] object to
synchronise your Pd sounds with ModPlug perfectly.
The great thing about this is that it's possible to write algorithmic
and generative instruments in Pd and synchronise them with your tracked
tunes.
Best,
Chris.
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http://mccormick.cx
Chris McCormick wrote:
After trawling through forum posts it seems that people accomplish this
with a VST2MIDI plugin in ModPlug. I'll give that a shot. I wonder if I am mistaken and this is an internal
thing and Modplug
doesn't actually do
midi output. I guess I will have to track down a windows machine to test
that out.
Don't bother. ModPlug doesn't do MIDI Out.
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