14 Dec
2013
14 Dec
'13
6:46 p.m.
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
14 Dec
14 Dec
6:59 p.m.
check out Reaper. cross platform too, Mac and Windows, also runs under
wine in Linux
http://www.reaper.fm/
I use it on a Mac
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
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7:08 p.m.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
<jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows
software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Mixbus runs on Windows now. You can't get more like Ardour than that.
And it's under $300.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
7:26 p.m.
When on Windows, I am an FL Studio user. A very modern software, very able
and very fashionable among younger musicians. Highly recommend.
http://www.image-line.com/documents/flstudio.html
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Brett McCoy <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM,
jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
<jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
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Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about
Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Mixbus runs on Windows now. You can't get more like Ardour than that.
And it's under $300.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
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9 p.m.
If you buy a single license for Mixbus ( I got mine during a sale for $160 I think), and
were to migrate to another OS, you don't have to buy additional license to run on
other systems. And you have a very reputable pro sound company that have been in the biz
forever backing it!! The Eq's and on board compressors make it simple to mix and
produce good sounding stuff. I have zero experience running it in M$. Works great on OSx
and Linux. I have a delta 1010lt too that will match up just fine. M-audio M$ drivers
worked fairly well for that card.
~ Russell
On Dec 14, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Brett McCoy <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM,
jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
<jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about
Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Mixbus runs on Windows now. You can't get more like Ardour than that.
And it's under $300.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
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9:15 p.m.
I think you really try to be certain you understand what your son's
production flow might be like.
There are a lot of people around at the moment (including my stepson, for
example) who are very, very focused on a musical style that in turn is
built around a production style that is really only well supported by
Ableton Live (although the most recent versions of some other major DAWs
including ProTools get close in many ways).
If that is how he imagines making music (samples, beats, looping, slicing,
dicing, triggering, pitch-shifting, tempo-fitting) then giving him more
traditional tools (particularly Ardour or Mixbus) will probably prove
rather frustrating. On the other hand, if he actually plans to record
himself or others playing instruments and then edit and mix the results,
then Mixbus could be a deeply satisfying option. And note: it isn't that
you can't do the Live-style of production with Mixbus (or Ardour), but it
definitely doesn't flow in the same way.
I know the music my stepson makes, and he has mostly used garageband on his
mac (despite living in the same house as me!) But he finds that pretty
frustrating and really wants to get into Live as his next tool.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
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15 Dec
15 Dec
12:02 a.m.
Paul's advice is sound - it does seem that certain very electronic styles
are much better suited to Ableton in particular.
If it's a more trad (Ardour-like?) DAW you're thinking of, for less
electronic and more recording-based production, then I second the
recommendation for Reaper.
disclaimer: I haven't worked very much in Windows for a long time, so this
is tantamount to hearsay....
J
12:20 a.m.
Paul's advice is sound - it does seem that certain
very electronic styles
are much better suited to Ableton in particular.
If it's a more trad (Ardour-like?) DAW you're thinking of, for less
electronic and more recording-based production, then I second the
recommendation for Reaper.
disclaimer: I haven't worked very much in Windows for a long time, so this
is tantamount to hearsay....
One advantage of Reaper over Mixbus (for now) is Reaper has MIDI
support. This won't be the case, of course, when Mixbus3 comes out
(which is supposed to be built on the Ardour3 codebase).
--
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
9:40 p.m.
New subject: [OT] SW recommendation (and VST under Linux)
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:15:46 -0500,
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote :
Thank you all for the replies - much appreciated !
I think you really try to be certain you understand
what your son's
production flow might be like.
This is a very good point. I've looked at Ableton Live and although
overall nice, it is not easy to find a supported sound cards list.
emailing them does not work in Firefox/Linux (403 errors or
unresponsive web page). I did find a thread in German (from last
month) that reports latency problems with the 1010LT card (should be
thrown away...), and recommends a RME. If it's a problem with the
1010LT and Windows drivers (certainly do not have latency problems with
Ardour on Linux) then I might be in for learning more about Windows
that I'd want to, in order to make it work (eg. provide support :)
FL studio seems quite good too, but with perhaps less of that pizz
that Ableton has.
To bring the thread back to Linux a bit: does this Abelton Live work
with using Wine ? Just out of curiosity. For that matter, are VST
plugins working in Linux with Ardour (and Wine) ? Is it like 100% go
ahead get some, or is it on a per-case basis ? Surely there is no
support from the VST plugin makers when running them under Wine in
Linux.
Thanks again for all the comments !
9:56 p.m.
New subject: [OT] SW recommendation (and VST under Linux)
On Sun, 2013-12-15 at 15:40 -0500, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote:
To bring the thread back to Linux a bit: does this
Abelton Live work
with using Wine ?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wineasio/
But I suspect that Abelton Live can't be used running on wineasio, at
least not for serious work. Years ago I run Reaper on wineasio and
experienced disgusting MIDI timing issues, calling it "jitter" would be
understated. I wonder if software that needs a dongle could be used with
wineasio.
Regards,
Ralf
11:40 p.m.
New subject: [OT] SW recommendation (and VST under Linux)
On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 01:56 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
16 дек. 2013 г. 0:56 пользователь "Ralf Mardorf"
<ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> написал:
This indeed is important and might be completely different today. It
would be nice if somebody could clarify if software that needs a dongle
could be used and if e.g. Abelton Live or Cubase and similar does run on
wineasio. A lot of complex software does run on wine, OTOH a lot of even
simple software fails to run on wine. You can run PhotoShop, but iTunes
or KORGnano control software doesn't work.
Regards,
Ralf
Years ago
Exactly. 
3:12 a.m.
On 15/12/13 04:46, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
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.
Here's a little secret, don't tell anyone! :) Harrison have a special
deal for You Tube viewers, Mixbus for $49, just watch one of the
official Mixbus videos and a popup box will take you to the offer. I
just bought it and really like it.
4:48 a.m.
Others already mentioned some all in one solutions for Windows, I could
add at least one other that is much used, but I don't. You should speak
with your son and/or his friends, what they prefer/use. Likely that they
use all the same all in one solution to share their work.
Perhaps a gift coupon is better than to buy the wrong Windows software.
Regards,
Ralf
5:19 a.m.
Might take a look at Tracktion <http://www.tracktion.com/> too, if you
haven't already. A bit non-traditional workspace, but quite inexpensive and
very very powerful and flexible-- and cross-platform (Win, Mac, Linux) from
the same license. Frankly, it's my preferred DAW...
Mike
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
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10:13 a.m.
I looked at Tracktion, went through the registration - only to find they
offer 64bit only. Eh...
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Mike Pullen <mike(a)thepullen.net> wrote:
Might take a look at Tracktion
<http://www.tracktion.com/> too, if you
haven't already. A bit non-traditional workspace, but quite inexpensive and
very very powerful and flexible-- and cross-platform (Win, Mac, Linux) from
the same license. Frankly, it's my preferred DAW...
Mike
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com <
jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:
--
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http://www.louigiverona.ru/
Hello everyone,
This is off topic but you are basicvally the only source that I know
of that I know knows something about this. I would like to buy this
for our son for Xmas. I am a registered Ardour user and have suggested
him to use it but he can not really dual boot and use Ardour, since
all of his stuff, and all of his friends and all that are on the Windows
side. If he could also make music there it would be a nice creative
thing that he could share with others.
Thing is, I know absolutely *nothing* about Windows software. I
almost bought a Sony recording thing but backed off when I realized
there's no support for a M-audio 1010LT card. Our son's machine has a
1010LT card and Windows 7. I'm certain many of you here knows a thing
or two or three about Windows recording softwares out there that would
basically be like Ardour. And under $300 if possible.
So I would ask kindly if it's possible to give some recommendations
here. It would be greatly appreciated ! If such a request/thread is
verboten, simply tell me. Or send me recommendations by email.
Cheers !
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10:40 a.m.
On Sun, 2013-12-15 at 13:13 +0400, Louigi Verona wrote:
I looked at Tracktion, went through the registration -
only to find
they offer 64bit only. Eh...
... and SEGFAULT on 64-bit Linux. http://www.energy-xt.com/ is
cross-platform, but I never used it and it's not the software I was
thinking off in my previous mail. Windows is Windows, I don't think the
OP's son does need cross-platform software, he likely needs something to
share complete arrangements with his friends, so the most important
thing seems to be compatibility to the friend's software, not by
importing MIDI and audio files only, but by importing the complete
project, so he should use the same software as the friends do use.
10:59 a.m.
There's one company "responsible" for VST and ASIO ;). Since we don't
want to recommend to use cracked software, I would take a look at music
stores and pay for audio gear, to get software from this company legally
for free, by a bundle with the audio gear. In Germany no big deal, since
it's a German company. There are German Internet shops, I'm thinking of
the most known, offering gear to very good price conditions, shipping to
all over the world. You also could take a look at EBay and buy the
software second hand.
17 Dec
17 Dec
12:43 a.m.
I don't like to recommend closed software but one of the advantages of
Ableton Live is that over the years it has grown into a full featured DAW.
It's famous looping and time stretching features aren't its only tricks.
If had to work on Windows I would use Live because of its range of
capabilities.
1:04 a.m.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Neil <djdualcore(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't like to recommend closed software but one of the advantages of
Ableton Live is that over the years it has grown into a full featured DAW.
I consider myself fortunate to have spent a couple of great dinners with
one of the founders of Ableton. He would be the first to say, both
privately and publically, that the original intent behind Live was to do
*everything* ... it just took them a while to get there. There was never a
conception of Live as "just" a looping/stretching/triggering tool.
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