12 Jun
2006
12 Jun
'06
3:02 a.m.
hello im new to this list, how this is the first time let me introduce
myself, im 23 years computer graphic fan and also a music fan, i live in
brazil and have one kid and a woman that i love, if someone wants to
know more about me you can visit my messed site www.greboide.dahora.net
(im still getting the hangs on web producing but im not too much worried
about it now).
Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i can get
one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard that
i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual keyboard or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
xjadeo(for video synchronized playback)
jack-rack and ladspa plugins
zynaddsubfx
jack-dssi-host (fluidsynth,xsynth and hexter)
clavier and vkboard
freewheeling
hydrogen
rosegarden
perhaps there is more but i think that these ones are enough for now
otherwise it can get too much complicated.
so my general question is where can i find composing infos like
tutorials or whatever but the most important to me is make my own music
or perhaps make a partnership with one but i would really like to be
able to compound it, thanks for those who can give me some directions.
12 Jun
12 Jun
9:27 a.m.
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont
know if i can get
one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard that
i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual keyboard or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
9:33 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
Loki
Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i
dont know if i can get
one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard that
i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual keyboard or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
1:44 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:33 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>
wrote:
i was looking at fluxus today and it also is very interesting but by the
time now im not so interested in making graphics realtime i want to make
sound for pre-rendered video so fluxus is going to be at a next step i
think, but what is this khagan?
i will try to find something about it thanks.
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
Loki Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i
dont know if i can get
one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard that
i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual keyboard or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
9:17 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On 6/13/06, glauber alex dias prado <glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:33 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
Loki i was looking at fluxus today and it also is very interesting but by the
time now im not so interested in making graphics realtime i want to make
sound for pre-rendered video so fluxus is going to be at a next step i
think, but what is this khagan?
i will try to find something about it thanks.
Khagan is an OSC controller. I.e fluxus is controlled by osc messages,
like midi but more flexible and powerful. Khagan is one of the many
ways to generate these messages. If you have a graphics tablet khagan
can convert graphics tablet input to osc.
Loki
p.s.
3 - 1 australia beat japan! YAY! ;)
On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht
<fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
> Hallo,
> glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
>
> > Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i can
get
> > one day, for now im looking for some
info on making midi scores to
> > composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
> >
> > I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
> > learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard
that
> > i consider will make it more dynamic
than using the virtual keyboard
or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
13 Jun
13 Jun
7:32 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:17 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
On 6/13/06, glauber alex dias prado
<glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
hi Loki, unfortunately i couldnt get khagan
working, phat modules isnt
being loaded by python i dont know why cause it is a fresh install, i
like this OSC controlled aproach maybe i will have more luck next time.
ps. Brasil 1 x 0 Croacia :).
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:33 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
i was looking at fluxus today and it also is very interesting but by the
time now im not so interested in making graphics realtime i want to make
sound for pre-rendered video so fluxus is going to be at a next step i
think, but what is this khagan?
i will try to find something about it thanks.
Khagan is an OSC controller. I.e fluxus is controlled by osc messages,
like midi but more flexible and powerful. Khagan is one of the many
ways to generate these messages. If you have a graphics tablet khagan
can convert graphics tablet input to osc.
Loki
p.s.
3 - 1 australia beat japan! YAY! ;) On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht
<fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
> Hallo,
> glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
>
> > Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i can
get
> > one day, for now im looking for some
info on making midi scores to
> > composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
> >
> > I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
> > learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard
that
> > i consider will make it more dynamic
than using the virtual keyboard
or
> a
notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
>
> i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
> running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
> the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
> jackd
> ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
Loki
8:44 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 00:29 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
are you a goto10.org member? this goto remember my really old back days
when i was in Basic language, under my MSX really loveing times :).
i was trying to load the pure:dyne at my pc but it wasnt able to load
some modules and i couldnt load the kernel cause of that i think the
modules that didnt loaded that i can remember of memory are amd64agp,
nvidiafb and i2core, can i load this distro in a chroot environment
cause a lot of packages that are into it im not able to compile at my
architeture IA_x86_64?
ps. Brasil 1 x 0 Croacia :).
But it was closer than expected. ;)
Ciao
14 Jun
14 Jun
6:29 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
are you a goto10.org member? this goto remember my
really old back days
when i was in Basic language, under my MSX really loveing times :).
Yes, it's a play on the oldskool days.
i was trying to load the pure:dyne at my pc but it
wasnt able to load
some modules and i couldnt load the kernel cause of that i think the
modules that didnt loaded that i can remember of memory are amd64agp,
nvidiafb and i2core, can i load this distro in a chroot environment
cause a lot of packages that are into it im not able to compile at my
architeture IA_x86_64?
Actually for now you won't be able to run Pd properly in 64bit mode,
so if you want to run Pd, you should have a 32bit system as well.
Although I belong to goto10, I'm not involved in the pure:dyne team.
If you have problems with that, you could open a ticket at
https://puredyne.goto10.org/
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
13 Jun
13 Jun
11:15 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On 6/14/06, glauber alex dias prado <glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:17 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
Khagan is an OSC controller. I.e fluxus is controlled by osc messages,
like midi but more flexible and powerful. Khagan is one of the many
ways to generate these messages. If you have a graphics tablet khagan
can convert graphics tablet input to osc.
Loki
p.s.
3 - 1 australia beat japan! YAY! ;) hi Loki, unfortunately i couldnt get khagan
working, phat modules isnt
being loaded by python i dont know why cause it is a fresh install, i
like this OSC controlled aproach maybe i will have more luck next time.
ps. Brasil 1 x 0 Croacia :).
You need to get pyphat. The readme and the khagan site gives
instructions. The osc control method is very flexible but really quite
programmer orientated they way it's done right now in khagan. With
service discovery, etc it would be a lot easier. Still on the todo!
looking forward to Brasil vs Australia on sunday. After seeing how
well ronaldo played i think we have a chance :)
On 6/13/06, glauber alex dias prado
<glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:33 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
> > On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
> > > Hallo,
> > > glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i
can
> get
> > > > one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
> > > > composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
> > > >
> > > > I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions
on
> > > > learning these things, first
im considering buying a midi keyboard
> that
> > > > i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual
keyboard
> or
> > > > a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
> > > >
> > > > i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
> > > > running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth
it,
> > > > the apps that i got running
and think that can be usefull are
theses:
> > > > jackd
> > > > ardour
> > > ...
> > >
> > > You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of
special
> > > interest to you, because it also
includes extensions to do
3D-graphics
> > > and combine both sound and the
graphics. You can read more about Pd
at
> www.puredata.info
>
> Ciao
> --
> Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
>
I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
Loki
i was looking at fluxus today and it also is very interesting but by the
time now im not so interested in making graphics realtime i want to make
sound for pre-rendered video so fluxus is going to be at a next step i
think, but what is this khagan?
i will try to find something about it thanks.
14 Jun
14 Jun
12:11 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: music notation
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 11:15 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
On 6/14/06, glauber alex dias prado
<glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
i do have pyphat instaled but it isnt being loaded maybe is a path
issue, nice that you are improving it.
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:17 +1000, Loki Davison
wrote:
hi Loki, unfortunately i couldnt get khagan
working, phat modules isnt
being loaded by python i dont know why cause it is a fresh install, i
like this OSC controlled aproach maybe i will have more luck next time.
ps. Brasil 1 x 0 Croacia :).
You need to get pyphat. The readme and the khagan site gives
instructions. The osc control method is very flexible but really quite
programmer orientated they way it's done right now in khagan. With
service discovery, etc it would be a lot easier. Still on the todo!
On 6/13/06, glauber alex dias prado
<glauberalex(a)uol.com.br> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 21:33 +1000, Loki Davison wrote:
> > On 6/12/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
> > > Hallo,
> > > glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now im not a musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i
can
> get
> > > > one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
> > > > composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
> > > >
> > > > I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions
on
> > > > learning these things, first
im considering buying a midi keyboard
> that
> > > > i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual
keyboard
> or
> > > > a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
> > > >
> > > > i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
> > > > running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth
it,
> > > > the apps that i got running
and think that can be usefull are
theses:
> > > > jackd
> > > > ardour
> > > ...
> > >
> > > You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of
special
> > > interest to you, because it also
includes extensions to do
3D-graphics
> > > and combine both sound and the
graphics. You can read more about Pd
at
> >
www.puredata.info
> >
> > Ciao
> > --
> > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
> >
>
> I am unshocked frank ;) I may have to mention om then ;) And combining
> khagan and fluxes for 3d graphics.
>
> Loki
i was looking at fluxus today and it also is very interesting but by the
time now im not so interested in making graphics realtime i want to make
sound for pre-rendered video so fluxus is going to be at a next step i
think, but what is this khagan?
i will try to find something about it thanks.
Khagan is an OSC controller. I.e fluxus is controlled by osc messages,
like midi but more flexible and powerful. Khagan is one of the many
ways to generate these messages. If you have a graphics tablet khagan
can convert graphics tablet input to osc.
Loki
p.s.
3 - 1 australia beat japan! YAY! ;) looking forward to Brasil vs Australia on sunday.
After seeing how
well ronaldo played i think we have a chance :)
if Parreira let Robinho play from
the beggining next time Australia will
have a hard time ;).
12 Jun
12 Jun
1:41 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 13:27 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
thanks for a another piece of software i tried it and looks interesting
can i use a kind of automated process to generate audio from a
pre-processed video or i should do it manually in fact i didnt get the
hangs of it so far but i am looking at it manual right now so maybe i
can answer this alone, thanks for the info.
regards Glauber.
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
what does this mean ^^^ ? i hope is something good
Now im not a
musician and this is a skill that i dont know if i can get
one day, for now im looking for some info on making midi scores to
composite together with my 3d videos that i do using blender.
I would really aprecciate if someone could give me some directions on
learning these things, first im considering buying a midi keyboard that
i consider will make it more dynamic than using the virtual keyboard or
a notation editor like the one at rosegarden.
i have a relative good system here to make this and most apps are
running and i already made some sound/music but nothing that worth it,
the apps that i got running and think that can be usefull are theses:
jackd
ardour
...
You missing Pd in you list of applications here. Pd may be of special
interest to you, because it also includes extensions to do 3D-graphics
and combine both sound and the graphics. You can read more about Pd at
www.puredata.info
Ciao
2:17 p.m.
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 13:27 +0200, Frank Barknecht
wrote:
"hat gesagt" is just german for "wrote" or rather for
"said". ;) I
often reply to german mails and I'm too lazy to change this line
everytime.
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber
alex dias prado wrote:
what does this mean ^^^ ? i hope is something good thanks for a another piece of software i tried it and
looks interesting
can i use a kind of automated process to generate audio from a
pre-processed video or i should do it manually in fact i didnt get the
hangs of it so far but i am looking at it manual right now so maybe i
can answer this alone, thanks for the info.
Pd is a realtime system (currently). It can record its own output to a
soundfile as well, but it always records in realtime.
It's hard to say if it is of use for your current needs, because I
don't really understood what exactly you want to achieve. If you just
want to write a midi file, then a midi editor like Muse or Rosegarden
is the better tool. With Pd/Gem or PDP you could realize more
"strange" ideas, like analyzing a video file on the fly and make
sounds from it, or use it as a sound engine for your Blender movies.
You could get some ideas for sounds in Pd here:
http://obiwannabe.co.uk/padawan12/onlinetutorials/html/tutorials_main.html
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
13 Jun
13 Jun
2:32 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 18:16 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
a lot of thanks Frank Barknecht this puredata is really amazing and fits
well on my needs, im trying to learn it and is really promising in my
opinion, i just dont know how many years i will have to have to learn to
make what i want but it is very cool, you helped me thanks
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 13:27 +0200, Frank
Barknecht wrote:
"hat gesagt" is just german for "wrote" or rather for
"said". ;) I
often reply to german mails and I'm too lazy to change this line
everytime.
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber
alex dias prado wrote:
what does this mean ^^^ ? i hope is something good thanks for a another piece of software i tried it
and looks interesting
can i use a kind of automated process to generate audio from a
pre-processed video or i should do it manually in fact i didnt get the
hangs of it so far but i am looking at it manual right now so maybe i
can answer this alone, thanks for the info.
Pd is a realtime system (currently). It can record its own output to a
soundfile as well, but it always records in realtime.
It's hard to say if it is of use for your current needs, because I
don't really understood what exactly you want to achieve. If you just
want to write a midi file, then a midi editor like Muse or Rosegarden
is the better tool. With Pd/Gem or PDP you could realize more
"strange" ideas, like analyzing a video file on the fly and make
sounds from it, or use it as a sound engine for your Blender movies.
You could get some ideas for sounds in Pd here:
http://obiwannabe.co.uk/padawan12/onlinetutorials/html/tutorials_main.html
Ciao
3:16 p.m.
Hallo,
glauber alex dias prado hat gesagt: // glauber alex dias prado wrote:
a lot of thanks Frank Barknecht this puredata is
really amazing and fits
well on my needs, im trying to learn it and is really promising in my
opinion, i just dont know how many years i will have to have to learn to
make what i want but it is very cool, you helped me thanks
About 3 years should be a good start. ;)
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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