13 Jul
2019
13 Jul
'19
5:22 p.m.
Dominique Michel:
Hi!
In the gtk1 days, it was rhythmlab for experimenting with polyrhythmic.
http://www.panix.com/~asl2/music/RhythmLab/
Today, it seam possible to do it with ableton. Is it some native
GNU/Linux solutions for such kind of rhythms?
Here's one way to do it in Radium:
http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/pictures/2019-07-13_15-12-57.mkv
(sound is a little bit screwed up in the recording, for some reason,
but you get the idea)
Is this somewhat similar to working in RhythmLab, except that you drag
the length of sequencer blocks instead of changing the dragging the
"period" slider?
14 Jul
14 Jul
4 p.m.
New subject: poly-rhythms
Le Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:21:53 +0200,
Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Dominique Michel:
It will be the occasion to make a gentoo ebuild for radium. Which imply
I will try it later.
Rhytmlab can use a constant time both for a measure or for a beat.
A constant measure time imply a variable tempo between rhythms with
different number of beats, when a constant beat time imply a constant
tempo and variable LCM (least common multiple) of the number of beats
for the different rhythms, the LCM being the total number of beats for
the combined rhythms to start again.
Rhythmlab was good for visualizing rhythms with constant measure time,
but I think the constant beat time approach is more realistic and
useful for live performances.
Also, rhythms with constant measure time can be see as triplets,
quintolet (in french, cinquillo in spanish), sextuplets and so on.
Cheers,
Dominique
Hi!
In the gtk1 days, it was rhythmlab for experimenting with
polyrhythmic. http://www.panix.com/~asl2/music/RhythmLab/
Today, it seam possible to do it with ableton. Is it some native
GNU/Linux solutions for such kind of rhythms?
Here's one way to do it in Radium:
http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/pictures/2019-07-13_15-12-57.mkv
(sound is a little bit screwed up in the recording, for some reason,
but you get the idea)
Is this somewhat similar to working in RhythmLab, except that you drag
the length of sequencer blocks instead of changing the dragging the
"period" slider? _______________________________________________
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4:28 p.m.
New subject: poly-rhythms
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dominique Michel
<dominique.c.michel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Le Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:21:53 +0200,
Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Okay. In Radium, I guess you rather would want to have different
number of beats in each parallel block, and afterwards stretch them so
that the duration matches,
instead of having parallel blocks with lots of beats and then stretch
them so that the duration does not match, as I showed in the video.
Both ways are possible.
Dominique Michel:
It will be the occasion to make a gentoo ebuild for radium. Which imply
I will try it later.
Rhytmlab can use a constant time both for a measure or for a beat.
A constant measure time imply a variable tempo between rhythms with
different number of beats, when a constant beat time imply a constant
tempo and variable LCM (least common multiple) of the number of beats
for the different rhythms, the LCM being the total number of beats for
the combined rhythms to start again.
Rhythmlab was good for visualizing rhythms with constant measure time,
but I think the constant beat time approach is more realistic and
useful for live performances.
Also, rhythms with constant measure time can be see as triplets,
quintolet (in french, cinquillo in spanish), sextuplets and so on.
Hi!
In the gtk1 days, it was rhythmlab for experimenting with
polyrhythmic. http://www.panix.com/~asl2/music/RhythmLab/
Today, it seam possible to do it with ableton. Is it some native
GNU/Linux solutions for such kind of rhythms?
Here's one way to do it in Radium:
http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/pictures/2019-07-13_15-12-57.mkv
(sound is a little bit screwed up in the recording, for some reason,
but you get the idea)
Is this somewhat similar to working in RhythmLab, except that you drag
the length of sequencer blocks instead of changing the dragging the
"period" slider? 
18 Jul
18 Jul
4:51 a.m.
New subject: poly-rhythms
Have you tried Musescore ?
On 7/14/19 8:28 AM, Kjetil Matheussen wrote:
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dominique Michel
<dominique.c.michel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Le Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:21:53 +0200,
Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Okay. In Radium, I guess you rather would want to have different
number of beats in each parallel block, and afterwards stretch them so
that the duration matches,
instead of having parallel blocks with lots of beats and then stretch
them so that the duration does not match, as I showed in the video.
Both ways are possible.
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https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Dominique Michel:
It will be the occasion to make a gentoo ebuild for
radium. Which imply
I will try it later.
Rhytmlab can use a constant time both for a measure or for a beat.
A constant measure time imply a variable tempo between rhythms with
different number of beats, when a constant beat time imply a constant
tempo and variable LCM (least common multiple) of the number of beats
for the different rhythms, the LCM being the total number of beats for
the combined rhythms to start again.
Rhythmlab was good for visualizing rhythms with constant measure time,
but I think the constant beat time approach is more realistic and
useful for live performances.
Also, rhythms with constant measure time can be see as triplets,
quintolet (in french, cinquillo in spanish), sextuplets and so on.
Hi!
In the gtk1 days, it was rhythmlab for experimenting with
polyrhythmic. http://www.panix.com/~asl2/music/RhythmLab/
Today, it seam possible to do it with ableton. Is it some native
GNU/Linux solutions for such kind of rhythms?
Here's one way to do it in Radium:
http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/pictures/2019-07-13_15-12-57.mkv
(sound is a little bit screwed up in the recording, for some reason,
but you get the idea)
Is this somewhat similar to working in RhythmLab, except that you drag
the length of sequencer blocks instead of changing the dragging the
"period" slider?
5:50 p.m.
New subject: poly-rhythms
Le Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:51:07 -0400,
Robert Vogel <vogelrl(a)gmx.com> a écrit :
Have you tried Musescore ?
Yes, but I don't see any practical way to make mscore to understand
than, i.e. with combined 3/4, 4/4 and 7/8 rhythms, each on a different
instrument, a 3/4 measure must take the same time to play than a
4/4 measure and than a 7/8 measure. Maybe it is some trick to do it,
but in that case I just didn't find it.
On 7/14/19 8:28 AM, Kjetil Matheussen wrote:
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dominique Michel
<dominique.c.michel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Le Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:21:53 +0200,
Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Okay. In Radium, I guess you rather would want to have different
number of beats in each parallel block, and afterwards stretch them
so that the duration matches,
instead of having parallel blocks with lots of beats and then
stretch them so that the duration does not match, as I showed in
the video. Both ways are possible.
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https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Dominique Michel:
> Hi!
>
> In the gtk1 days, it was rhythmlab for experimenting with
> polyrhythmic. http://www.panix.com/~asl2/music/RhythmLab/
>
> Today, it seam possible to do it with ableton. Is it some native
> GNU/Linux solutions for such kind of rhythms?
>
Here's one way to do it in Radium:
http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/pictures/2019-07-13_15-12-57.mkv
(sound is a little bit screwed up in the recording, for some
reason, but you get the idea)
Is this somewhat similar to working in RhythmLab, except that you
drag the length of sequencer blocks instead of changing the
dragging the "period" slider?
It will be the occasion to make a gentoo
ebuild for radium. Which
imply I will try it later.
Rhytmlab can use a constant time both for a measure or for a beat.
A constant measure time imply a variable tempo between rhythms with
different number of beats, when a constant beat time imply a
constant tempo and variable LCM (least common multiple) of the
number of beats for the different rhythms, the LCM being the total
number of beats for the combined rhythms to start again.
Rhythmlab was good for visualizing rhythms with constant measure
time, but I think the constant beat time approach is more
realistic and useful for live performances.
Also, rhythms with constant measure time can be see as triplets,
quintolet (in french, cinquillo in spanish), sextuplets and so on.
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