11 Oct
2006
11 Oct
'06
5:48 p.m.
Just wondering if anybody has any experience using trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
11 Oct
11 Oct
5:53 p.m.
I 've been using a Logitech TrackMan Marble for years now and love it.
cheers,
ernie
On 10/11/06, greg <gkjoyce(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just wondering if anybody has any experience using
trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
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6:09 p.m.
On 10/11/06, greg <gkjoyce(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering if anybody has any experience using trackballs. I have
> the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
> precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
> logitech are the only companies making them now.
I use Logitech Marble Mouse and think it is great.
Though, it has some physical subleties: it's hard to move cursor a few
pixels - the initial force to move the ball from static position is
greater than force needed to continue motion. Physics in its glory.
Don't know how it is in more expensive trackballs. It is forgivable
for a $20 trackball.
6:15 p.m.
I have a very old Logitech TrackMan Marble, it was used before I got it,
and it's still working fine.
Only problem with it is you use your thumb a lot. I find it less precise
than I'd like in some apps, particularly graphics ones.
I prefer the Wacom graphics tablets.
Ernie Dulanowsky wrote:
I 've been using a Logitech TrackMan Marble for
years now and love it.
cheers,
ernie
On 10/11/06, greg <gkjoyce(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering if anybody has any experience using trackballs. I have
> the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
> precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
> logitech are the only companies making them now.
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6:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: ot-ish : trackballs
greg wrote:
> Just wondering if anybody has any experience using trackballs. I have
> the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
> precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
> logitech are the only companies making them now.
Ernie Dulanowsky wrote:
I 've been using a Logitech TrackMan Marble for
years now and love it.
Yes, the old good TrackMan Marble FX, the wired one, asymmetrical, with the
big red ball. I have two of them, used those for years (and a smaller one
for the family computer).
Not using them anymore, the notebook trackpad is more practical, but still
less precise. But they want in the wings for their comeback, this I know. :-)
Trackballs, trackpads, trackpoints, whatever, but drop the standard mice!
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12 Oct
12 Oct
3:43 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: ot-ish : trackballs
Nicola Larosa wrote:
Trackballs, trackpads, trackpoints, whatever, but drop
the standard mice!
Oh, I forgot something important: discard the trackballs with small balls,
to be operated with the thumb: they're an RSI disaster waiting to happen.
You want balls that are operated with the other fingers or the palm, the
thumb only has to click. The bigger the ball, the better.
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12:53 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: ot-ish : trackballs
On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 07:43 +0200, Nicola Larosa wrote:
Nicola Larosa wrote:
You mean like the Microsoft Trackball Optical? Great, this is exactly
what I've been using for years. It does seem a bit weird to make the
thumb do all the work, but so far mine doesn't hurt...
Lee
Trackballs, trackpads, trackpoints, whatever, but
drop the standard mice!
Oh, I forgot something important: discard the trackballs with small balls,
to be operated with the thumb: they're an RSI disaster waiting to happen.
You want balls that are operated with the other fingers or the palm, the
thumb only has to click. The bigger the ball, the better.
11 Oct
11 Oct
8:05 p.m.
greg kirjoitti:
Just wondering if anybody has any experience using
trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
I have two: a Logitech Marble Mouse on my main computer and a Logitech TrackMan
Wheel on my second computer. The latter is good for office work, browsing etc.
because of the scrollwheel, but the ball is a bit harder to use because you
can't really use but your thumb. The Marble Mouse is wonderful: I'll never, ever
want to use an ordinary mouse after the experience with it... It's very good for
almost anything, and the best gaming mouse I've ever tried: I just *can't* play
Q3A, UT etc. without it!
JR
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12 Oct
12 Oct
2:04 a.m.
On 10/12/06, Jouni Rinne <jouni.rinne(a)luukku.com> wrote:
greg kirjoitti:
I just recently got a new Marble mouse, the one with the ball in the
middle and buttons either side, quite cheap and lovely! Much more
ergonomic than a mouse and great for everything. Still got bad RSI
though... The ball being a scroll wheel on clicking 4th button thing
is pretty awesome too, and quite easy to set up with minor xorg
effort.
Loki
p.s I am without internet except at the library and going insane!
Just wondering if anybody has any experience
using trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
I have two: a Logitech Marble Mouse on my main computer and a Logitech TrackMan
Wheel on my second computer. The latter is good for office work, browsing etc.
because of the scrollwheel, but the ball is a bit harder to use because you
can't really use but your thumb. The Marble Mouse is wonderful: I'll never, ever
want to use an ordinary mouse after the experience with it... It's very good for
almost anything, and the best gaming mouse I've ever tried: I just *can't* play
Q3A, UT etc. without it!
JR
--
| me@home ~$whoami ^ ^ | "Trust me, I know what I'm doing!" |
| Jouni 'Mad Max' Rinne ('x') | - Sledge Hammer
|
| me@home ~$man woman C " " | -------[ph34r t3h p3Ngu1n]-------- |
| Segmentation fault (core dumped) | l33tmmx at sci dot fi |
17 Oct
17 Oct
3:34 a.m.
On 10/12/06, Dmitry Baikov <dsbaikov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/12/06, Loki Davison
<loki.davison(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for slow reply, I don't have net access at the moment and I have
to send this from i library with windoze machines!!
Look at the details on this link, works well for me
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=aa450cb48032dc5db55fd0a8cc55637a&a…
Loki
though... The ball being a scroll wheel on
clicking 4th button thing
is pretty awesome too, and quite easy to set up with minor xorg
effort.
Can you, please, post xorg options?
Thanks.
Dmitry.
12 Oct
12 Oct
7:08 a.m.
2006/10/11, greg <gkjoyce(a)gmail.com>om>:
Just wondering if anybody has any experience using
trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
I do have a logitech trackball, one with the ball under the thumb. I love it!
And to get back on topic for audio: Its really nice if you have to
usethe computer live, there is not much space needed for the mouse
driving around and it want slip from the rack as likely as a mouse.
Most times I just put the trackball on a lesser used section of the
mixer and be happy.
Oh, and forget the touchpads in laptops, they might be okay if you
have your laptop on your knees but I find them impractical for any
serious work...
Arnold
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10:09 a.m.
On 10/12/06, Arnold Krille <arnold.krille(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2006/10/11, greg <gkjoyce(a)gmail.com>om>:
I don't have trackball, because if I did I would play Centipede,
Millipede, and Missile Command all day long.
Just wondering if anybody has any experience
using trackballs. I have
the impression that it would be more ergonomic and might offer better
precision/control for selections, etc. It looks like Kensington($$$) and
logitech are the only companies making them now.
I do have a logitech trackball, one with the ball under the thumb. I love it!
And to get back on topic for audio: Its really nice if you have to
usethe computer live, there is not much space needed for the mouse
driving around and it want slip from the rack as likely as a mouse.
Most times I just put the trackball on a lesser used section of the
mixer and be happy.
Oh, and forget the touchpads in laptops, they might be okay if you
have your laptop on your knees but I find them impractical for any
serious work...
Arnold
--
visit http://www.arnoldarts.de/
---
Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
6:26 p.m.
Hallo,
Arnold Krille hat gesagt: // Arnold Krille wrote:
Oh, and forget the touchpads in laptops, they might be
okay if you
have your laptop on your knees but I find them impractical for any
serious work...
As a Pd user I have to use a pointing device a lot, and I just cannot
cope with my laptops trackpad. I've never really used a trackball, but
I'd be interested to hear how comfortable it is for mobile use where
there's not much space. Say for example in an airplane or in the
train. Is this comfortable?
Ciao
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13 Oct
13 Oct
6:34 a.m.
2006/10/12, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>rg>:
Arnold Krille hat gesagt: // Arnold Krille wrote:
I can only speak for the train-part: as long as you have a somewhat
stable place to put the trackball, its really cool.
If you are in ICE on a table, you can use it quite good. :-)
Arnold
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Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
Oh, and forget the touchpads in laptops, they
might be okay if you
have your laptop on your knees but I find them impractical for any
serious work...
As a Pd user I have to use a pointing device a lot, and I just
cannot
cope with my laptops trackpad. I've never really used a trackball, but
I'd be interested to hear how comfortable it is for mobile use where
there's not much space. Say for example in an airplane or in the
train. Is this comfortable?
8:51 a.m.
Hallo,
Arnold Krille hat gesagt: // Arnold Krille wrote:
I can only speak for the train-part: as long as you
have a somewhat
stable place to put the trackball, its really cool.
If you are in ICE on a table, you can use it quite good. :-)
Cool. However there I can also use a mouse. What about the small
"seat-tables", which are already filled when a laptop rests on them.
Can you use a trackball for example resting on your legs?
Ciao
--
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4:31 p.m.
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Arnold Krille hat gesagt: // Arnold Krille wrote:
Yes.
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I can only speak for the train-part: as long as
you have a somewhat
stable place to put the trackball, its really cool.
If you are in ICE on a table, you can use it quite good. :-)
Cool. However there I can also use a mouse. What about the small
"seat-tables", which are already filled when a laptop rests on them.
Can you use a trackball for example resting on your legs?
6:54 p.m.
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Hallo,
david hat gesagt: // david wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
And does it feel comfortable enough to you?
Ciao
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Cool. However there I can also use a mouse. What
about the small
"seat-tables", which are already filled when a laptop rests on them.
Can you use a trackball for example resting on your legs?
Yes.
7:27 p.m.
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
david hat gesagt: // david wrote:
I've used it for many years, but not resting on my legs. I know it would
work, but can't tell you how comfortable it might be, especially for
extended use.
Mine's a Trackman Marble Plus, it took me a few days for my thumb to get
used to doing so much.
I've used other trackballs. The larger ones are much better for fine
control. But for really fine control, I prefer graphics tablets.
I have a friend who loves touchpads so much that he's even bought
keyboards with builtin touchpads. He gets good control by rolling his
fingertip on the pad, rather than dragging. I've tried touchpads and
don't particularly like them.
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
And does it feel comfortable enough to you? Cool. However there I can also use a mouse. What
about the small
"seat-tables", which are already filled when a laptop rests on them.
Can you use a trackball for example resting on your legs?
Yes.
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