Lorenzo wrote: I don't love flash either, I love my wife and kids :-) Interesting, hmmm. Should be possible. Could you post links to a few sites that does this in an elegant way? I haven't tried, but I'm pretty sure it's also possible to pay with other things than paypal (for instance visa) on bandcamp. For those not having a paypal account (I guess about 95% of the people I know bought my first CD) this makes a great difference. This surely isn't possible (without hastle + expences) to setup yourself. This is all guesswork for me, since I haven't run anything but linux for 10 years, but my feeling is that "all the other users" (those with evil OS'es) don't care or think about flash. They just surf around and occasionally hit a play button on a music page, flash or not. -- Atte http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk http://virb.com/atte