22 Jul
2011
22 Jul
'11
1:41 p.m.
hi *!
i'm looking for some wireless controller box with the following features:
* sends and receives generic midi data
* has at least one fader, preferrably motorized
* has some freely definable knobs with sane midi output (no NRPN weirdness)
* works with ALSA ootb (if it's a USB device), or:
* has midi in and out ports on the base station
something like the frontier design tranzport, but without the driver
pain and with a fader tacked on.
thanks in advance,
jörn
22 Jul
22 Jul
1:57 p.m.
On 07/22/2011 01:41 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
hi *!
i'm looking for some wireless controller box with the following features:
* sends and receives generic midi data
* has at least one fader, preferrably motorized
* has some freely definable knobs with sane midi output (no NRPN weirdness)
* works with ALSA ootb (if it's a USB device), or:
* has midi in and out ports on the base station
something like the frontier design tranzport, but without the driver
pain and with a fader tacked on.
thanks in advance,
jörn
Hello Jörn,
Would two separate devices work out too? Like a M-Audio MidAir with a
Behringer BCF2000? The MidAir should work ootb afaict.
Best,
Jeremy
5:29 p.m.
hi jeremy!
thanks for your quick reply!
On 07/22/2011 01:57 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
Would two separate devices work out too? Like a
M-Audio MidAir with a
Behringer BCF2000? The MidAir should work ootb afaict.
very interesting product, thanks for the hint!
but without a similarly battery-powered control surface, the main
advantage is lost - if i have to deal with a mains cable, i might as
well run a midi line. and even if i found a fader box with batteries, my
client would then have to maintain two battery-powered devices, possibly
with different standby times - i don't think that's feasible, since the
lab where this gadget is going to be installed will be operated by
users, not techies. so if it's going to be wireless, it has to be fully
integrated.
if cables can't be avoided, maybe i can find some schematics for a
simple motorfader midi controller and use a simple cat5 for
bi-directional midi and power... suggestions, anyone?
best,
jörn
5:47 p.m.
On 07/22/2011 05:29 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
hi jeremy!
thanks for your quick reply!
On 07/22/2011 01:57 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
Increase the gadget effect: make it an xPhone app.. and just sent the
info via OSC. - There's already various tools for Android, iPhone, iPad
etc to map on-screen-sliders to OSC commands. The "cheap" option is to
get an iPod-touch instead of a phone, but hey your client may already
have some touch-screen phone - maybe even some old ones sitting unused
on a shelf..
Sure they're not physical sliders and certainly not motorized, but
wireless. YMMV.
Would two separate devices work out too? Like a
M-Audio MidAir with a
Behringer BCF2000? The MidAir should work ootb afaict.
very interesting product, thanks for the hint!
but without a similarly battery-powered control surface, the main
advantage is lost - if i have to deal with a mains cable, i might as
well run a midi line. and even if i found a fader box with batteries, my
client would then have to maintain two battery-powered devices, possibly
with different standby times - i don't think that's feasible, since the
lab where this gadget is going to be installed will be operated by
users, not techies. so if it's going to be wireless, it has to be fully
integrated. if cables can't be avoided, maybe i can find some
schematics for a
simple motorfader midi controller and use a simple cat5 for
bi-directional midi and power... suggestions, anyone?
best,
jörn
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On 07/22/2011 04:46 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
On 07/22/2011 05:29 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
yours truly shameless plug: qmidictl (via qmidinet)
assuming you have the awesome nokia n9x0 handsets (maybe symbian too?
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas is working on it ;)
it might not have the finest "touchable" precision you want, but it can
be improved, ntl ;)
cheers
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hi jeremy!
thanks for your quick reply!
On 07/22/2011 01:57 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
Increase the gadget effect: make it an xPhone app.. and just sent the
info via OSC. - There's already various tools for Android, iPhone, iPad
etc to map on-screen-sliders to OSC commands. The "cheap" option is to
get an iPod-touch instead of a phone, but hey your client may already
have some touch-screen phone - maybe even some old ones sitting unused
on a shelf..
Sure they're not physical sliders and certainly not motorized, but
wireless. YMMV.
> if cables can't be avoided, maybe i can find some schematics for a
> simple motorfader midi controller and use a simple cat5 for
> bi-directional midi and power... suggestions, anyone?
> Would two separate devices work out too? Like a
M-Audio MidAir with a
Behringer BCF2000? The MidAir should work ootb afaict.
very interesting product, thanks for the hint!
but without a similarly battery-powered control surface, the main
advantage is lost - if i have to deal with a mains cable, i might as
well run a midi line. and even if i found a fader box with batteries, my
client would then have to maintain two battery-powered devices, possibly
with different standby times - i don't think that's feasible, since the
lab where this gadget is going to be installed will be operated by
users, not techies. so if it's going to be wireless, it has to be fully
integrated. 
23 Jul
23 Jul
2:37 p.m.
On Friday 22 July 2011, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
On 07/22/2011 04:46 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
I've finished the symbian port of qmidictl long time ago.
http://midi-clorianos.blogspot.com/2011/04/symbian-ports.html
You will need to download the source code from the SVN repository at SourceForge, because
Rui did not release it yet. There is not a symbian binary package published, either.
I've sent an unsigned installer to Rui, just in case he wants to publish the
application in the Nokia OVI Store himself. I don't mind to publish it under my own
account at OVI, but to do so I need some graphics and texts that I've requested to
Rui, without receiving an answer yet.
QmidiCtl may be useful for your needs. My problem with it is the small size of the
phones' screens, that makes it hard to use the sliders. A possible solution for this
problem may be to replace the phone device by a Meego tablet like the wetab or exopc.
QmidiCtl runs on these devices like on any other Linux box.
Regards,
Pedro
On 07/22/2011 05:29 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier
wrote:
yours truly shameless plug: qmidictl (via qmidinet)
assuming you have the awesome nokia n9x0 handsets (maybe symbian too?
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas is working on it ;)
it might not have the finest "touchable" precision you want, but it can
be improved, ntl ;) hi jeremy!
thanks for your quick reply!
On 07/22/2011 01:57 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
Increase the gadget effect: make it an xPhone app.. and just sent the
info via OSC. - There's already various tools for Android, iPhone, iPad
etc to map on-screen-sliders to OSC commands. The "cheap" option is to
get an iPod-touch instead of a phone, but hey your client may already
have some touch-screen phone - maybe even some old ones sitting unused
on a shelf..
Sure they're not physical sliders and certainly not motorized, but
wireless. YMMV.
> if cables can't be avoided, maybe i can find some schematics for a
> simple motorfader midi controller and use a simple cat5 for
> bi-directional midi and power... suggestions, anyone?
> Would two separate devices work out too? Like a
M-Audio MidAir with a
Behringer BCF2000? The MidAir should work ootb afaict.
very interesting product, thanks for the hint!
but without a similarly battery-powered control surface, the main
advantage is lost - if i have to deal with a mains cable, i might as
well run a midi line. and even if i found a fader box with batteries, my
client would then have to maintain two battery-powered devices, possibly
with different standby times - i don't think that's feasible, since the
lab where this gadget is going to be installed will be operated by
users, not techies. so if it's going to be wireless, it has to be fully
integrated. 
27 Jul
27 Jul
11:05 a.m.
New subject: Linux friendly tablet [WAS: wireless midi controller with at least one fader]
On 07/23/2011 02:35 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
A possible solution for this problem may be to replace
the
phone device by a Meego tablet like the wetab or exopc.
This is getting a bit OT, bit hey the WeTab looks like a cool tablet.
Anyone had one in their hands? Wouls I be buying into yesteryears
technologies with a company that only did one product and died with it?
In other words; if I buy an WeTab today and WeTab GmbH goes out of
business tomorrow, what will my WeTab experience be in say three years,
regarding availability of software?
The specs look quite a bit lower than the iPad (that I won't buy for
sure, because if its hostility towards linux), but maybe that's to be
expected...
--
Atte
http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk
12:28 p.m.
New subject: Linux friendly tablet [WAS: wireless midi controller with at least one fader]
Indamixx2 has a version of Meego with energy XT, Ardour, Renoise, Linuxdsp,
www.Indamixx.com
Thank you
Ron
Indamixx
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011, Atte André Jensen <atte(a)email.dk> wrote:
On 07/23/2011 02:35 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
Anyone had
one in their hands? Wouls I be buying into yesteryears
technologies with a company that only did one product and died with it? In
other words; if I buy an WeTab today and WeTab GmbH goes out of business
tomorrow, what will my WeTab experience be in say three years, regarding
availability of software?
A possible solution for this problem may be to replace the
phone device by a Meego tablet like the wetab or exopc.
This is getting a bit OT, bit hey the WeTab looks like a cool tablet.
The specs look quite a bit lower than the iPad (that I won't buy for sure,
because if its hostility towards linux), but maybe that's to be expected...
--
Atte
http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk
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22 Jul
9:24 p.m.
On 07/22/2011 05:46 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:
Increase the gadget effect: make it an xPhone app..
and just sent the
info via OSC. - There's already various tools for Android, iPhone, iPad
etc to map on-screen-sliders to OSC commands. The "cheap" option is to
get an iPod-touch instead of a phone, but hey your client may already
have some touch-screen phone - maybe even some old ones sitting unused
on a shelf..
Sure they're not physical sliders and certainly not motorized, but
wireless. YMMV.
I've successfully used Fingerplay and TouchDAW myself, both Android
apps. TouchDAW works great with QmidiNet, Fingerplay works with it's own
Java server thingy.
Best,
Jeremy
9:39 p.m.
On 07/22/2011 05:29 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
but without a similarly battery-powered control
surface, the main
advantage is lost - if i have to deal with a mains cable, i might as
well run a midi line. and even if i found a fader box with batteries, my
client would then have to maintain two battery-powered devices, possibly
with different standby times - i don't think that's feasible, since the
lab where this gadget is going to be installed will be operated by
users, not techies. so if it's going to be wireless, it has to be fully
integrated.
Hello Jörn,
Didn't think about the mains cable :( I think it will get very hard to
find a single wireless midi device with at least one fader that runs on
batteries. You will most likely end up with two separate devices, a
battery powered MIDI controller and a battery powered MIDI wireless
device, and will have to do some integrating yourself. And does it
really have to be a fader box? So knobs won't work?
Best,
Jeremy
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