3 Mar
2004
3 Mar
'04
8:55 a.m.
thanks for the links,
i had another look but still can't see anything up to scratch - i need a
gui interface where i can to create large orchestral scores to
publication standard, output and transpose instrumental parts, design
and import non standard notational symbols etc. etc.
besides this i have dozens of scores already in Finale that need to be
accessible to me
Finale is working pretty well under Wine but i would just like to iron
out the few glitches that are there
thanks again,
rob
the link to mscore seems to be broken, or the page is down...
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www.robcanning.utvinternet.com
sorry if this is slightly off-topic but to convert
fully to linux audio
i need to be able to use notation - i've seen some of the open source
notation packages and none of them are up to the level of Finale yet.
i'm trying out finale 2000 on the WINE emulator for Linux on Redhat9.
I have put a copy of the maestro.ttf font into an X11 directory and
pointed my .wine/config file to that directory so now i have the font
showing up in finale.
My problem is all the little buttons in the simple entry panel are
black
instead of showing up note/duration symbols - most of
the other buttons
in the other entry panels are showing up ok. any linux/wine/finale
users out there???
are the symbols on these buttons connected to maestro.ttf?
- reports of any experiences with using finale within WINE would be
greatly appreciated especially with regards to getting the midi .dll
side of things up and running.
3 Mar
3 Mar
2:33 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
Rob,
I think you're probably better off using Finale if you can get the
kinks worked out, but in case you can't here's one more to look at:
http://www.salieri.org/GUIDO
I've never used this one, but it looks pretty interesting...
Good luck,
Mark
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 04:49, robcanning wrote:
thanks for the links,
i had another look but still can't see anything up to scratch - i need a
gui interface where i can to create large orchestral scores to
publication standard, output and transpose instrumental parts, design
and import non standard notational symbols etc. etc.
besides this i have dozens of scores already in Finale that need to be
accessible to me
Finale is working pretty well under Wine but i would just like to iron
out the few glitches that are there
thanks again,
rob
the link to mscore seems to be broken, or the page is down...
4 Mar
4 Mar
3:18 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:28:12AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Rob,
I think you're probably better off using Finale if you can get the
kinks worked out, but in case you can't here's one more to look at:
http://www.salieri.org/GUIDO
I've never used this one, but it looks pretty interesting...
http://denemo.sf.net
i like denemo a lot. for fast note entry its the best.
and you get lilypond output. so it will typset nicely.
not sure about how you get your finale data into it.
--
torben Hohn
http://galan.sourceforge.net -- The graphical Audio language
4:30 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 torbenh(a)informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote:
not sure about how you get your finale data into it.
If Finale exports MuiscXML you can use NoteEdit
(http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html)
to import it and to export to LilyPond. It is a WYSIWYG musical
score editor. Therefore you can make some corrections before
exporting it.
BTW: It can also export ABC music (http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc,
http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/) which was also mentioned in this
thread (and MusixTeX and PMX, http://icking-music-archive.org)
And implicitely MUP (http://www.arkkra.com) because MUP is
the native file storage format of NoteEdit.
It can import/export MIDI. And I don't know how many voices per staff
Finale can deal with: NoteEdit offers up to 9 voices per staff.
During replay it highlights the played notes
in red color and it pays attention to the following symbols:
- repeat
- volta
- dal segno (al Fine, al Coda)
- (De-)Crescenso (hairpins)
- ritardando, accelerando
- tempo signatures
- fermata, trills
- stacatto
- piano pedal marks
And you can attach guitar chord diagrams and lyrics.
And you can read the music form a MIDI keyboard attached to your
soundcard.
--
J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY (ja(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de)
5 Mar
5 Mar
5:08 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Direct score printing from NoteEdit, was: FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Joerg Anders wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 torbenh(a)informatik.uni-bremen.de
wrote:
BTW: For about a half year NoteEdit has a hidden ./configure
option "--with-printing" which enables "direct" printing from
score. But this is a trick: It calls "abcm2ps" implicitely.
It was programmed by Jorge Windmeisser Oliver. I hide this because
it does not work:
- if the user has no root privilegs and cannot install NoteEdit,
but uses the "admin/locinst.sh" script
- if "print to file" is requested
Perhaps a KDE guru can review the code and say what to do.(?)
--
J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY (ja(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de)
not sure about how you get your finale data into it.
If Finale exports MuiscXML you can use NoteEdit
(http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html)
It can also export ABC music ... 
4 Mar
4 Mar
5:31 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 12:49 pm, robcanning wrote:
i had another look but still can't see anything up
to scratch
No, there isn't anything comparable to Finale.
Lilypond can do almost everything you mention, with extremely good
results -- it compares very favourably to Finale -- but it is not a
GUI application. There are various other GUI programs that can help
write Lilypond files (NoteEdit, Rosegarden and Denemo are your best
bets) but none is as WYSIWYG or has such complete support as you
would need, and certainly none is able to read Finale files. (Of
course you could use Recordare's Dolet plugin to get MusicXML from
Finale and import that -- NoteEdit is currently the only one of the
above able to import MusicXML.)
But if I were a serious Finale user I'd stick to trying to get it to
work under Wine for now.
the link to mscore seems to be broken, or the page is
down...
Looks to have disappeared. I'd rather like to know what happened to
it, because it was a worthwhile approach -- quite a rigorous
page-based GUI very much in the style of Sibelius. Last release I
saw was not actually usable yet though.
Can't actually be any help with your real question I'm afraid: I've
never tried Finale under Wine.
Chris
5:50 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
Hi,
I didn't ask but I think Werner decided to put it on the back burner for a
while.
/Robert
the link to
mscore seems to be broken, or the page is down...
Looks to have disappeared. I'd rather like to know what happened to
it, because it was a worthwhile approach -- quite a rigorous
page-based GUI very much in the style of Sibelius. Last release I
saw was not actually usable yet though.
8 Mar
8 Mar
10:10 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] FINALE 2000 - WINE ???
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Chris Cannam wrote:
write Lilypond files (NoteEdit, Rosegarden and Denemo
are your best
bets) but none is as WYSIWYG or has such complete support as you
would need, and certainly none is able to read Finale files. (Of
course you could use Recordare's Dolet plugin to get MusicXML from
Finale and import that -- NoteEdit is currently the only one of the
above able to import MusicXML.)
Is it really so clear ? OK, I tried "Finale NotePad 2003". And you
can teach me "Finale NotePad 2003" is not "Finale 2003". In my
opinion
even the "NoteWorthy Composer" (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/) is much
better. And this is a shareware with a very moderate shareware
policy (9 savings are possible without any fee, price: $39)
For instance: "Finale NotePad 2003" can draw (de-)crescendo.
But the "NoteWorthy Composer" plays(!) (de-)crescendo.
The same holds piano pedal marks.
Where is arpeggio, ritardando, accelerando? The "NoteWorthy Composer"
plays(!) these symbols!
The "NoteWorthy Composer" highlights the played notes with
red color. "Finale NotePad 2003" drags a vertical line over
the score and the users has problems to associate the notes
to this line.
Where is Arpeggio, Segno, dal Segno, dal Segno al Fine,
dal Segno al Coda, Fine, Coda?
Ok, but perhaps it has to do with "NotePad" ...
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