13 Nov
2012
13 Nov
'12
9:07 a.m.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should be lightweight (capable of
running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact with
controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable, possible to recall state from
command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and interact
with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
13 Nov
13 Nov
5:27 p.m.
Am 13.11.2012 09:07, schrieb James Stone:
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should be
lightweight (capable of
running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact with
controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable,
AMS.
Alsa Modular Synth never failed me(once a patch was tested to be working
OK, it did so always) You can route controls at will to its parameters
and it does run headless:
ams -n -l law/patches/ams/syntrompoethe.ams
runs ams in a terminal loading a patch called syntrompete.ams
If you need polyphony add the -p flag:
ams -n -p4 -l law/patches/ams/syntrompoethe.ams
The only "bug" so far known to me is, that CTRL+C does not exit, I use
to close the terminal and open a new one to exit and load a new instance.
possible to recall state from
command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and interact
with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
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14 Nov
7:55 a.m.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:07 PM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should be
lightweight (capable
of running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact
with controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable, possible to recall state
from command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and
interact with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
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amSynth is lightweight enough to run on a netbook. It's not especially deep
but still has enough versatility to add to your live toolkit. I usually map
all controls to a single program on my novation controller which gives full
knob per function interaction for live use.
18 Nov
18 Nov
3:55 p.m.
These are great ideas
Thx! I also found ghostess will spit out a small script file to start up a
dssi plugin in a particular state. No mapping of midi controls unless I
hard code them tho...
Any ideas on organ/stage piano emulation apart from Beatrix? A clav and
rhodes sound would be useful.
On Nov 14, 2012 6:55 AM, "michael noble" <looplog(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:07 PM, James Stone
<jamesmstone(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should
be lightweight (capable
of running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact
with controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable, possible to recall state
from command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and
interact with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
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amSynth is lightweight enough to run on a netbook. It's not especially
deep but still has enough versatility to add to your live toolkit. I
usually map all controls to a single program on my novation controller
which gives full knob per function interaction for live use.
6:07 p.m.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:55:24 +0000
James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Any ideas on organ/stage piano emulation apart from
Beatrix? A clav
and rhodes sound would be useful.
Perhaps Hexter or Fluid Synth.
I never had a good D6 emulation, but somewhere I've got a nice Rhodes
sample, unfortunately I don't know where I saved it, however, I got the
Rhodes sample from a free Internet library.
I've got no knowledge about Hexter, but a nice Rhodes sound from my
DX7. It's not one of those cute bell E.Piano/DX7 sounds, but a dirty
no-bell sound. It doesn't sound like a real Rhodes, but sometimes it's
anyway a good replacement. Perhaps it's possible to edit Hexter.
IIRC it's not a sound I edited myself.
DX7 Sound --------------------------------------------------------------
VOICE NAME: *Mark III
ALGORITHM 10, FEEDBACK 0
LFO WAVE SINE, SPEED 34, DELAY 33, PMD 24, AMD 12, SYNC OFF
MOD. SENSITIVITY PITCH 0, AMPLITUDE all OPs 0
OP|MODE/SYNC|F.COAR|F.FINE|De|R1|R2|R3|R4|L1|L2|L3|L4|BRE|CL|CR|DL|DR|RS
--+---------+------+------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+--+--+--+--+--
6 |RATIO | 10.53| 10.53| 0|42|51|79|50|99|16| 0| 0|A 4|-L|-L| 0|92| 0
5 |FIXED |1122Hz|1122Hz| 0|77|84|79| 0|99| 0| 0| 0|G 3|-L|+E|27| 0| 3
4 |RATIO ON | 1.00| 1.00| 0|78|26|42|67|99|21| 0| 0|F 2|-L|-L|55|23| 2
3 |RATIO | 5.00| 5.00|-2|75|20|25|67|99|75| 0| 0|A#2|-L|-L| 0|59| 7
2 |RATIO | 1.00| 1.00| 0|75|20|21|68|99|99| 0| 0|A 3|-L|-L| 0|70| 3
1 |RATIO | 1.00| 1.00| 0|75|20|21|49|99|99| 0| 2|E 7|-L|-L| 0|67| 3
OP|OUT.LEV|VELO|PITCH R1|R2|R3|R4|PITCH L1|L2|L3|L4|KEYTRANSPOSE
--+-------+----+--------+--+--+--+--------+--+--+--+------------
6 | 53| 2| | | | |
5 | 95| 3| | | | |
4 | 99| 5| 24|12|19|59| 50|50|50|50|MID. C = C 2
3 | 66| 7| | | | |
2 | 87| 5| | | | |
1 | 99| 3| | | | |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regards,
Ralf
6:10 p.m.
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a live situation, even as
QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
6:29 p.m.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:10:22 +0300
Louigi Verona <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a live
situation, even
as QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
I'm a guitarist ;), resp. I was a guitarist :(, but if I would use a
synth live, I wouldn't use a software synth.
Hm? It's possible to edit Hexter, but if I start Hexter on Ubuntu
Studio Quantal amd64, the edit tab is missing.
Regards,
Ralf
6:42 p.m.
Interesting.. fluidsynth was something I was definitely thinking about
using. What are the problems with live use?
On Nov 18, 2012 5:10 PM, "Louigi Verona" <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a live
situation, even as
QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
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In short, a very clumsy way of loading soundfonts. Where you'd expect just
a simple dialog, there is a complicated process of creating "engines" and
loading soundfonts into them.
Very difficult to switch between files (it will usually re-initialize the
engine), usually causing an audible click.
Not easy to load soundfonts quickly from GUI - you need to go into engine
properties, then choose the tab you need, then load.
Additionally, a very confusing system of loading multiple soundfonts - you
can try to use it but it will require lots of preparation. I had to setup
my engines beforehand and learn which soundfont is loaded into which.
Not that there is nothing good to say about it - windows to choose
soundfont bank have ability to save/load presets. But all in all - I would
just prefer a simple sf2 loader which gives me the ability to quickly load
a soundfont and play it easily. I cover this a little bit here:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=…
Unfortunately, I do not see CALF Fluidsynth in my plugin list - looks like
it is not in a stable branch. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, I would go for a simply plugin interface like CALF Fluidsynth. But
in general I find sf2 handling on Linux lacking.
Still, I have used QSynth for my live performances and have developed a
system to more or less easily handle the job. Try this little article:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=…
Hope this helps!
Louigi.
10:42 p.m.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a live
situation, even as
QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
For years, I regularly used Fluidsynth+qsynth in parallel with Bristol,
live at shows running off a netbook with an Atom chipset. Dell Latitude
2100.
(Somewhat outdated, but conceptually accurate) details here:
http://lukepeterson.com/2010/02/07/arriving-midi-keyboard-live-rig/
The trick was to set Bristol up as my hammond emulator on midi channels 1
and 2, then various patches including a Rhodes, a D6, a piano, a few other
things up on channels 3+ ... I set up Bristol to listen to the knobs and
sliders on my keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 61), and then could change patches by
flipping the global channel for that keyboard up and down. It took me half
a dozen shows to work out all the bugs in performance -- for instance, I'd
run into trouble every now and then if I'd change channels while holding a
key.
The most overloaded this rig ever got was a show where I had my X-Box
keytar running through a M-Audio MidAir wireless midi unit, fixed to
channel 1 on a high-distortion D6 patch, my Axiom 61 as a multichannel
workhorse playing any patch I wanted with the knobs and sliders set to the
hammond, and my old Yamaha P80 which was a pain in the ass to change the
channel on set to channel 4 for my piano patch. So 3 controllers in total.
Our encore was Baba O'Riley, for which I created a QArp arpeggio on the D6
that mimicked Pete Townshend's Lowrey autoarpeggio intro. After our set, I
ran a shell script to kick off QArp to control channel 1, and then started
the song from the crowd in front of the stage on my wireless keytar. It
worked great until I made my way back to stage and tried to hold the
arpeggio on the keytar while also then playing the first 3 piano chords on
the P80. The five-fingered piano chord along with the arpeggiating D6
overloaded the memory on my little netbook and sent a ton of nasty
artifacts through the venue's PA, and then I had to kill a bunch of
processes and re-load the rig. But it was pretty f--ing cool right to that
point. The sound tech and the rest of the band covered as best they could
and we did a fairly exciting trainwreck of an encore, which we medleyed
into something else. God bless beer and 2am crowds!
Anyway, I guess my point is, if you are just looking to play a fixed
fewer-than-16 patches and don't need to change any of their settings
mid-show, QSynth should be a fine solution. Pre-load each onto its own
channel and just change the channel on your controller to switch from patch
to patch.
-----
Luke Peterson
10:49 p.m.
Yes, Luke is correct - I should note that my live performance involves
changing lots of presets, doing lots of things and requiring everything to
be available in real-time and quick. I do a lot of spontaneous composing.
So I should have said that it is not for live performance IF you need to
load things quick and all that stuff.
Luke, read a post on your setup - impressive journey! Glad you found your
configuration!
Louigi.
19 Nov
19 Nov
12:26 a.m.
Wow! Fantastic stuff!
In my experience bristol seems quieter than other synths but perhaps I'm
configuring it wrongly?
Very excited about the GPL beatrix!
Any thoughts on running linuxsampler live on a netbook? Would this be
pushing things too hard?
On Nov 18, 2012 9:43 PM, "Luke Peterson" <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Louigi Verona
<louigi.verona(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a
live situation, even as
QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
For years, I regularly used Fluidsynth+qsynth in parallel with Bristol,
live at shows running off a netbook with an Atom chipset. Dell Latitude
2100.
(Somewhat outdated, but conceptually accurate) details here:
http://lukepeterson.com/2010/02/07/arriving-midi-keyboard-live-rig/
The trick was to set Bristol up as my hammond emulator on midi channels 1
and 2, then various patches including a Rhodes, a D6, a piano, a few other
things up on channels 3+ ... I set up Bristol to listen to the knobs and
sliders on my keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 61), and then could change patches by
flipping the global channel for that keyboard up and down. It took me half
a dozen shows to work out all the bugs in performance -- for instance, I'd
run into trouble every now and then if I'd change channels while holding a
key.
The most overloaded this rig ever got was a show where I had my X-Box
keytar running through a M-Audio MidAir wireless midi unit, fixed to
channel 1 on a high-distortion D6 patch, my Axiom 61 as a multichannel
workhorse playing any patch I wanted with the knobs and sliders set to the
hammond, and my old Yamaha P80 which was a pain in the ass to change the
channel on set to channel 4 for my piano patch. So 3 controllers in total.
Our encore was Baba O'Riley, for which I created a QArp arpeggio on the D6
that mimicked Pete Townshend's Lowrey autoarpeggio intro. After our set, I
ran a shell script to kick off QArp to control channel 1, and then started
the song from the crowd in front of the stage on my wireless keytar. It
worked great until I made my way back to stage and tried to hold the
arpeggio on the keytar while also then playing the first 3 piano chords on
the P80. The five-fingered piano chord along with the arpeggiating D6
overloaded the memory on my little netbook and sent a ton of nasty
artifacts through the venue's PA, and then I had to kill a bunch of
processes and re-load the rig. But it was pretty f--ing cool right to that
point. The sound tech and the rest of the band covered as best they could
and we did a fairly exciting trainwreck of an encore, which we medleyed
into something else. God bless beer and 2am crowds!
Anyway, I guess my point is, if you are just looking to play a fixed
fewer-than-16 patches and don't need to change any of their settings
mid-show, QSynth should be a fine solution. Pre-load each onto its own
channel and just change the channel on your controller to switch from patch
to patch.
-----
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1:08 a.m.
IIRC, Ken Restivo on this list ran linuxsampler live on a netbook with
great results.
On 11/18/2012 01:26 PM, James Stone wrote:
Any thoughts on running linuxsampler live on a
netbook? Would this be
pushing things too hard?
On Nov 18, 2012 9:43 PM, "Luke Peterson" wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Louigi Verona
<louigi.verona(a)gmail.com <mailto:louigi.verona@gmail.com>> wrote:
Fluid Synth is VERY difficult to work with in a live situation,
even as QSynth. I tried it many times and I don't advice it.
For years, I regularly used Fluidsynth+qsynth in parallel with
Bristol, live at shows running off a netbook with an Atom chipset.
Dell Latitude 2100.
(Somewhat outdated, but conceptually accurate) details here:
http://lukepeterson.com/2010/02/07/arriving-midi-keyboard-live-rig/
The trick was to set Bristol up as my hammond emulator on midi
channels 1 and 2, then various patches including a Rhodes, a D6, a
piano, a few other things up on channels 3+ ... I set up Bristol to
listen to the knobs and sliders on my keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 61),
and then could change patches by flipping the global channel for
that keyboard up and down. It took me half a dozen shows to work out
all the bugs in performance -- for instance, I'd run into trouble
every now and then if I'd change channels while holding a key.
The most overloaded this rig ever got was a show where I had my
X-Box keytar running through a M-Audio MidAir wireless midi unit,
fixed to channel 1 on a high-distortion D6 patch, my Axiom 61 as a
multichannel workhorse playing any patch I wanted with the knobs and
sliders set to the hammond, and my old Yamaha P80 which was a pain
in the ass to change the channel on set to channel 4 for my piano
patch. So 3 controllers in total.
Our encore was Baba O'Riley, for which I created a QArp arpeggio on
the D6 that mimicked Pete Townshend's Lowrey autoarpeggio intro.
After our set, I ran a shell script to kick off QArp to control
channel 1, and then started the song from the crowd in front of the
stage on my wireless keytar. It worked great until I made my way
back to stage and tried to hold the arpeggio on the keytar while
also then playing the first 3 piano chords on the P80. The
five-fingered piano chord along with the arpeggiating D6 overloaded
the memory on my little netbook and sent a ton of nasty artifacts
through the venue's PA, and then I had to kill a bunch of processes
and re-load the rig. But it was pretty f--ing cool right to that
point. The sound tech and the rest of the band covered as best they
could and we did a fairly exciting trainwreck of an encore, which we
medleyed into something else. God bless beer and 2am crowds!
Anyway, I guess my point is, if you are just looking to play a fixed
fewer-than-16 patches and don't need to change any of their settings
mid-show, QSynth should be a fine solution. Pre-load each onto its
own channel and just change the channel on your controller to switch
from patch to patch.
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18 Nov
18 Nov
8:50 p.m.
On 11/18/2012 03:55 PM, James Stone wrote:
Any ideas on organ/stage piano emulation apart from
Beatrix?
setBfree: http://setbfree.org/
Jeremy
8:52 p.m.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
On 11/18/2012 03:55 PM, James Stone wrote:
its not free or open source, but pianoteq ...
Any ideas on organ/stage piano emulation apart
from Beatrix?
setBfree: http://setbfree.org/
19 Nov
19 Nov
8:36 a.m.
I would recommend you try running Aspect (non-free but best GUI synth
plugin for Linux) or Noisemaker (best FOSS GUI synth plugin) under Carla,
my fave unfinished plugin host. You can automate and control most
everything under these synths and at least Aspect lets you configure a list
of configs or presets that you can switch through via MIDI but both synths
sound fantastic. You can easily run at least one or two instances of
Noisemaker without xruns on a Atom netbook and so that means you get a good
few (4 or 5x) as many instances of Aspect running as well instead because
Aspect is that much more efficient than its best open source alternative
Noisemaker.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should be
lightweight (capable
of running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact
with controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable, possible to recall state
from command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and
interact with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
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20 Nov
8:57 a.m.
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've hadfun (re) discoveeing all
this software. I like carla but it seems a bit buggy and cpu hungry.
Strangely, hosting the plugins in qtractor used less cpu! Any ideas why?
Another annoying thing I have encountered is linuxsampler clicking and
crackling with multiple notes. Never had this problem before but thus is
the first time I've used avlinux on my dektop... will investigate further..
On Nov 19, 2012 7:36 AM, "Dan MacDonald" <allcoms(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I would recommend you try running Aspect (non-free but
best GUI synth
plugin for Linux) or Noisemaker (best FOSS GUI synth plugin) under Carla,
my fave unfinished plugin host. You can automate and control most
everything under these synths and at least Aspect lets you configure a list
of configs or presets that you can switch through via MIDI but both synths
sound fantastic. You can easily run at least one or two instances of
Noisemaker without xruns on a Atom netbook and so that means you get a good
few (4 or 5x) as many instances of Aspect running as well instead because
Aspect is that much more efficient than its best open source alternative
Noisemaker.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions? Ideally should
be lightweight (capable
of running on an old eeepc 701), lots of control possibilities (interact
with controls via midi knobs), rock solid stable, possible to recall state
from command line.
Not all of these are essential but I would like it to start up and
interact with my kb without too much typing on-stage!
I do have a real soft spot for whysynth but the midi learn and recall of
state seem tricky/impossible with ghostess?
I would also like suggestions for organs (Beatrix?), electric pianos,
romplers.. I am seriouslh considering a solid state keyboard or sound
module, but it seems it should be possible with linux...
Suggestions for reasonably priced hardware (2nd hand?) Options would also
be interesting...
J
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9:24 a.m.
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 07:57 +0000, James Stone wrote:
Strangely, hosting the plugins in qtractor used less
cpu! Any ideas
why?
No idea. I experienced that Quantal's version of Qtractor is absolutely
stable using DSSIs and I also had nearly no CPU load. Especially
Fluid-DSSI in the past made Qtractor crash very often. Just selecting
DSSI plugins after LADSP plugins were selected, only was possible with a
trick. Qtractor is one of the most important apps for me, but I wouldn't
recommend to use it on stage.
Another annoying thing I have encountered is
linuxsampler clicking and
crackling with multiple notes. Never had this problem before but thus
is the first time I've used avlinux on my dektop... will investigate
further..
I experienced AVlinux 5.0.3 with Kernel 3.0.23-rt40 and Kernel
3.0.23-avl-7-pae threadirqs as a less good audio distro, even after
removing compiz. I didn't run linuxsampler. I also dropped Debain stable
64-bit, because it's dated as AVLinux 5.0.3 (quasi Debian stable too)
and dropped Debian testing 64-bit, because it's to unstable. My read is,
that things will become more worse for Debian. Keeping init would cause
dependency, resp. maintaining issues and a transition to e.g. systemd is
known to cause issues.
I'm using Ubuntu (Studio) at the moment (upstart), dropped Arch Linux
regarding to transition issues (init -> systemd). Ubuntu, Fedora
(systemd) and maybe some other distros that already switched, perhaps
are more stable at the moment. YMMV!
1:50 p.m.
On Nov 20, 2012 8:24 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf(a)alice.dsl.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 07:57 +0000, James Stone wrote:
Fair enough. Any reason why given it is so stable now?
What would you recommend for a plugin host?
Strangely, hosting the plugins in qtractor used
less cpu! Any ideas
why?
No idea. I experienced that Quantal's version of Qtractor is absolutely
stable using DSSIs and I also had nearly no CPU load. Especially
Fluid-DSSI in the past made Qtractor crash very often. Just selecting
DSSI plugins after LADSP plugins were selected, only was possible with a
trick. Qtractor is one of the most important apps for me, but I wouldn't
recommend to use it on stage.
I experienced AVlinux 5.0.3 with Kernel 3.0.23-rt40 and Kernel
3.0.23-avl-7-pae threadirqs as a less good audio distro, even after
removing compiz. I didn't run linuxsampler. I also dropped Debain stable
64-bit, because it's dated as AVLinux 5.0.3 (quasi Debian stable too)
and dropped Debian testing 64-bit, because it's to unstable. My read is,
that things will become more worse for Debian. Keeping init would cause
dependency, resp. maintaining issues and a transition to e.g. systemd is
known to cause issues.
I'm using Ubuntu (Studio) at the moment (upstart), dropped Arch Linux
regarding to transition issues (init -> systemd). Ubuntu, Fedora
(systemd) and maybe some other distros that already switched, perhaps
are more stable at the moment. YMMV!
Yes. I'm just trying out different things. I had Debian on the desktop
computer for a long time (10 yrs without a reinstall!) I have Ubuntu Studio
on my work laptop and a minimal ubuntu + LXDE on the netbook.. I thought
AVLinux was looking good from pov of Jack performance but I am hitting some
problems with the apps installed (optimised for SSE2 when my CPU wont do
it, this linuxsampler problem etc..).
J
2:14 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:50 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. I'm just trying out different things. I had
Debian on the desktop
computer for a long time (10 yrs without a reinstall!) I have Ubuntu Studio
on my work laptop and a minimal ubuntu + LXDE on the netbook.. I thought
AVLinux was looking good from pov of Jack performance but I am hitting some
problems with the apps installed (optimised for SSE2 when my CPU wont do
it, this linuxsampler problem etc..).
not having an SSE2 CPU seems like a bad, bad place to start ...
2:27 p.m.
On Nov 20, 2012 1:14 PM, "Paul Davis" <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:50 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Yes. I'm just trying out different things. I had Debian on the desktop
computer for a long time (10 yrs without a reinstall!) I have Ubuntu Studio
on my work laptop and a minimal ubuntu + LXDE on the netbook.. I thought
AVLinux was looking good from pov of Jack performance but I am hitting some
problems with the apps installed (optimised for SSE2 when my CPU wont do
it, this linuxsampler problem etc..).
not having an SSE2 CPU seems like a bad, bad place to start ...
Perhaps.. but I don't see myself upgrading in the near future. After all,
it has handled everything I havd thrown at it until now.. and I am not
trying to do anything dramatically different or more CPU intense than
anything I have done before.
I don't think Athlon XPs are that uncommon amongst Linux users given our
fondness for keeping machines running as long as possible!
Do you know if Ubuntu optimises for SSE2 by default? Maybe I will have to
start using Gentoo or something...
2:39 p.m.
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 13:27 +0000, James Stone wrote:
Do you know if Ubuntu optimises for SSE2 by default?
I forwarded your request.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2012-November/008688.…
IIRC at least JAMin has a command line option not to use SSE2.
I can't say something about a host for DSSI, LADSPA, LV2 and VST.
Regards,
Ralf
21 Nov
21 Nov
8:24 p.m.
On 11/20/2012 03:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 13:27 +0000, James Stone wrote:
Maybe Arch, where you can specify such options during the install process?
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Do you know if Ubuntu optimises for SSE2 by
default?
I forwarded your request.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2012-November/008688.…
IIRC at least JAMin has a command line option not to use SSE2.
I can't say something about a host for DSSI, LADSPA, LV2 and VST.
9:06 p.m.
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 09:24 -1000, david wrote:
On 11/20/2012 03:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I guess the question for a host was meant as ...
if I shouldn't use Qtractor, is there any other host? Such as jack-rack.
I don't recommend Qtractor as a host for the stage, since sometimes it's
needed to close and restart Qtractor, because MIDI in stops working.
I don't have live experiences using Linux.
Regarding to a distro I recommend to take a look at the Arch general
mailing list. At the moment I avoid using Arch. There's a hard
censorship regarding to questions about how to get Arch working stable,
after it's needed to switch to systemd, there are still enough requests
regarding to issues caused by the transition. People who did criticize
the transition to systemd too much were banned. No, I'm not one of the
banned users. For sure, the time will come when I'll use Arch Linux
again, but at the moment I prefer to go with a more stable distro.
I'm willing to use systemd myself, I'm not willing to break my Linux
continuously with each upgrade and to set up the host name (of the
Linux) and do things like that again and again.
Debian stable, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. perhaps are better choices at the
moment, but the next Debian stable will come soon and current testing
IMO is to unstable at the moment. I'm not using Fedora, but in VBox it
seems to be stable. I'm using Ubuntu at the moment. The Ubuntu Studio
meta packages do provide everything I need.
Regards,
Ralf
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 13:27 +0000, James Stone
wrote:
Maybe Arch, where you can specify such options during the install process? Do you know if Ubuntu optimises for SSE2 by
default?
I forwarded your request.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2012-November/008688.…
IIRC at least JAMin has a command line option not to use SSE2.
I can't say something about a host for DSSI, LADSPA, LV2 and VST.
9:17 p.m.
On 11/21/2012 09:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I don't recommend Qtractor as a host for the
stage, since sometimes it's
needed to close and restart Qtractor, because MIDI in stops working.
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for the stage because MIDI in
always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you all get
a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Regards,
Jeremy
10:35 p.m.
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for the
stage because MIDI
in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
(yes, I'm Belgian)
Ciao,
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It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
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10:46 p.m.
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qtractor AND beer? If this combo doesn't guarantee a response from Rui,
nothing will!
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org>wrote;wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy
Jongepier wrote:
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for
the stage because MIDI
in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
(yes, I'm Belgian)
Ciao,
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11:11 p.m.
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:46:24 +0000
Dan MacDonald <allcoms(a)gmail.com> wrote:
qtractor AND beer? If this combo doesn't guarantee
a response from Rui,
nothing will!
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org>wrote;wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
>
> > I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for the stage because MIDI
> > in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
> > all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
>
> Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
> Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
>
> (yes, I'm Belgian)
>
> Ciao,
>
Looks like it's going to be a fun time.
Also looks like I'll make it this year :)
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Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
22 Nov
22 Nov
11:30 a.m.
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On 11/21/2012 11:11 PM, Folderol wrote:
Looks like it's going to be a fun time.
If it were up to me, it sure would!
Also looks like I'll make it this year:)
Great! Looking forward to a Yoshimi-Germknödel-Spezi-Almdudler-Plzen
party extravaganza!
Jeremy
25 Nov
25 Nov
7:31 p.m.
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:30:42 +0100
Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com> wrote:
On 11/21/2012 11:11 PM, Folderol wrote:
Can you imagine the effect on the audience if we had two musicians playing 4
keyboards all driving one instance of yoshi :)
This is actually possible now, if the keyboards were set to transmit on
different channels. The icing on the cake would be to have a third person
swapping in sound patches throughout the performance.
It's a fantastic thought, but would require rather a lot of practice and
choreography!
--
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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Looks like it's going to be a fun time.
If it were up to me, it sure would!
Also looks like I'll make it this year:)
Great! Looking forward to a Yoshimi-Germknödel-Spezi-Almdudler-Plzen
party extravaganza!
Jeremy
8:47 p.m.
New subject: [OT] Beers for live use
Am 25.11.2012 19:31, schrieb Folderol:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:30:42 +0100
Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com> wrote:
Some five years ago I had a performace of 8 computers playing notes sent
from my Laptop via aseqnet to an instance of Zynadd. Every instance was
set to recieve from a different MIDI-channel. So the reverse works
perfectly well ;-)
On 11/21/2012 11:11 PM, Folderol wrote:
Can you imagine the effect on the audience if we had two musicians playing 4
keyboards all driving one instance of yoshi :) Looks like it's going to be a fun time.
If it were up to me, it sure would!
Also looks like I'll make it this year:)
Great! Looking forward to a Yoshimi-Germknödel-Spezi-Almdudler-Plzen
party extravaganza!
Jeremy This is actually possible now, if the keyboards were
set to transmit on
different channels. The icing on the cake would be to have a third person
swapping in sound patches throughout the performance.
It's a fantastic thought, but would require rather a lot of practice and
choreography!
22 Nov
22 Nov
1:18 a.m.
New subject: [OT] Beers for live use
On 11/21/2012 09:46 PM, Dan MacDonald wrote:
qtractor AND beer? If this combo doesn't guarantee
a response from Rui,
nothing will!
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org
<mailto:fons@linuxaudio.org>> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
well, it has come to my knowledge that when the file requester dialogs
are in use, midi control input ceases to work, eventually. it seems like
the file requester dialogs are locking down the event-loop, leaving the
rest of the application dead in the limbo.
most importantly, please note that this only occurs when the gtk+ widget
style is in effect. yes, qtractor (through qt4) do actually render gtk+
widgets by default where applicable (eg. ubuntu, gnome, xfce). the
workaround is to force qtractor to run with any other widget style but
gtk+ (eg. `qtractor -style plastique` is my favorite)
back on topic ;) let there be known that the best coding inspiration has
come from the distilled genres of malt "beer", specially the ones from
the shores of islay--a dram or two of laphroiag or lagavulin suits my
taste very well indeed
slaitheva
(and no, i'm not a scotsman)
--
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rncbc(a)rncbc.org
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for
the stage because MIDI
in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
(yes, I'm Belgian)
3:07 a.m.
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On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 00:19 +0000, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
the workaround is to force qtractor to run with any
other widget style but
gtk+ (eg. `qtractor -style plastique` is my favorite)
I wonder what Ubuntu Quantal packages I've to install to get plastique
and how to set up the fonts for the Xfce4 desktop.
$ qtractor
http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-22_01_32_12-8rohOdFr.png
$ qtractor -style plastique
http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-22_01_33_54-XWKckPng.png
Screenshots will expire in one week.
Regards,
Ralf
8:31 a.m.
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Hi Ralf!
I'm pretty sure the plastique widget comes as standard with qt4. I had to
switch from the GTK default widget of AVL6 because I found it hard to be
able to discern when qtr tracks were armed - with GTK widgets the 'R' icon
was grey unarmed and an ever so slightly different shade of grey when armed.
So, you can either change your qtr start commands (`qtractor -style
plastique` as Rui said) or run `qtconfig` and change your default widget
globally.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>wrote;wrote:
On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 00:19 +0000, Rui Nuno Capela
wrote:
the workaround is to force qtractor to run with
any other widget style
but
gtk+ (eg. `qtractor -style plastique` is my
favorite)
I wonder what Ubuntu Quantal packages I've to install to get plastique
and how to set up the fonts for the Xfce4 desktop.
$ qtractor
http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-22_01_32_12-8rohOdFr.png
$ qtractor -style plastique
http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-22_01_33_54-XWKckPng.png
Screenshots will expire in one week.
Regards,
Ralf
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9:58 a.m.
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On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 07:31 +0000, Dan MacDonald wrote:
Hi Ralf!
I'm pretty sure the plastique widget comes as standard with qt4. I had
to switch from the GTK default widget of AVL6 because I found it hard
to be able to discern when qtr tracks were armed - with GTK widgets
the 'R' icon was grey unarmed and an ever so slightly different shade
of grey when armed.
So, you can either change your qtr start commands (`qtractor -style
plastique` as Rui said) or run `qtconfig` and change your default
widget globally.
Thank you :),
Ralf
11:34 a.m.
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On 11/22/2012 03:06 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I wonder what Ubuntu Quantal packages I've to
install to get plastique
None. It's one of the default skins of Qt. And looking at your
screenshots it seems to me the Plastique theme works as it should.
Jeremy
11:42 a.m.
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On 11/22/2012 01:19 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
most importantly, please note that this only occurs when the gtk+ widget
style is in effect. yes, qtractor (through qt4) do actually render gtk+
widgets by default where applicable (eg. ubuntu, gnome, xfce). the
workaround is to force qtractor to run with any other widget style but
gtk+ (eg. `qtractor -style plastique` is my favorite)
Oh yeah, that was it. I don't use GTK+ so I can keep the Tuborgs to
myself. Oh no wait, I now see that Graz is pretty close to Plzen so I
could bring some
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/pilsner-urquell-kvasnicovy/44956/
Jeremy
23 Nov
23 Nov
8:58 p.m.
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Am Donnerstag, 22. November 2012, 11:42:25 schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
On 11/22/2012 01:19 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
no need to carry those around, you can find them in virtually every supermarket!
nice beer indeed :)
I hope I can make it too to Graz this time, the only thing speaking against it is my
daughter's b'day on May 9th...
Edgar
most importantly, please note that this only occurs when the gtk+ widget
style is in effect. yes, qtractor (through qt4) do actually render gtk+
widgets by default where applicable (eg. ubuntu, gnome, xfce). the
workaround is to force qtractor to run with any other widget style but
gtk+ (eg. `qtractor -style plastique` is my favorite)
Oh yeah, that was it. I don't use GTK+ so I can keep the Tuborgs to
myself. Oh no wait, I now see that Graz is pretty close to Plzen so I
could bring some
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/pilsner-urquell-kvasnicovy/44956/
Jeremy
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On 11/23/2012 08:58 PM, Edgar Aichinger wrote:
no need to carry those around, you can find them in
virtually every supermarket!
Yes but that's not the same beer, at least, it is said it is not the
same beer. I wouldn't be surprised if SABMiller puts the same beer in
every brand they sell but people are all in awe when the stuff is on
draught at the brewery in Plzen itself.
nice beer indeed:)
True, Pilsner Urquell is very tasty indeed. Pity I barely drink beer
from multinationals. So no Heineken, Inbev, SABMiller or Bavaria beers
in my fridge.
I hope I can make it too to Graz this time, the only
thing speaking against it is my daughter's b'day on May 9th...
Then it's my son's birthday too. So I won't be there on the first day of
the conference.
Jeremy
Edgar
21 Nov
21 Nov
11:34 p.m.
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* Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> [2012-11-21 22:35]:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy
Jongepier wrote:
I am afraid we do not offer such elaborate Belgium beers, but let me
tell you that Austria, esp. Graz, is as much a beer as a wine country.
Actually the last day of LAC2013 will feature a nice social event, a
trip to the countryside with some of the best wines (and food) that
area of the country has to offer!
Looking forward to that, and to LAC2013,
best, Peter
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for
the stage because MIDI
in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
(yes, I'm Belgian)
Ciao,
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It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
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22 Nov
11:18 a.m.
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On 11/21/2012 10:35 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:16:59PM +0100, Jeremy
Jongepier wrote:
Ha ha, well, is Christoffels ok too?
Jeremy
I'd recommend Qtractor as a plug-in host for
the stage because MIDI
in always works in my case. If MIDI in stops working at LAC2013 you
all get a sixpack of Tuborg 50cl cans.
Or a guaranteed headache lasting 24 hours. I'd prefer a sixpack of
Westmalle Triple. Or Duvel :-)
Ciao,
21 Nov
21 Nov
11:19 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:06:29PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Regarding to a distro I recommend to take a look at
the Arch general
mailing list. At the moment I avoid using Arch. There's a hard
censorship regarding to questions about how to get Arch working stable,
after it's needed to switch to systemd, there are still enough requests
regarding to issues caused by the transition. People who did criticize
the transition to systemd too much were banned. No, I'm not one of the
banned users. For sure, the time will come when I'll use Arch Linux
again, but at the moment I prefer to go with a more stable distro.
Sure, Arch users have been going through some non-trivial changes lately,
and the way the Arch devs have sold systemd to their users was a complete
marketing disaster, on the same scale as LP's own efforts. And they know
it.
Currently the list is moderated (it wasn't before), and any discussion
of 'political' objections to systemd is banned. But support for technical
issues is still OK. And I've had some very interesting discussions on
controversial issues related to systemd in private email exchanges with
some of the Arch maintainers. There's no bad intentions on their side,
and they're having a hard time themselves.
Of course the current state of of affairs *does* completely ignore
that there may be valid 'political' objections to what RH is doing,
which is basically to make Linux 'corporate friendly', even if that
hurts the individual user. And it's being done by spreading a lot
of disinformation. None of the systemd advocates ever mentioned for
example the real reason why it uses such an ugly configuration syntax
and Windoze format files. But you can read it on LP's blog pages: it's
because there's a lot of Windoze based 'corporate IT management tools'
using that format. It's a detail of course, but quite revealing.
The Arch devs also completely ignored the fact than many objections
to systemd are not about the way it replaces pid 1 and the init scripts.
That aspect of system is actually quite a good thing. But it also pulls
in the (IMHO) braindead 'seat and session' based access control and a
security model (based on polkit) that if taken far enough completely
subverts the native 'unix' one. It may be very convenient for a distro,
or for a corporate IT manager, to be able to bypass an existing security
policy by just dropping a package-specific file in some directory when a
user installs that pacakage. But it's a nightmare for an admin who wants
to stay in control of his system, in particular on a distro that assumes
frequent routine updates such as Archlinux.
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22 Nov
22 Nov
12:18 p.m.
OK..
Here's a quick update. On the desktop, I have now installed Ubuntu
Studio 12.04 + a few bits from kx-studio. I experimented with the full
kx-experience and found the way it took over the whole audio system -
putting everything thru jack, and making everything a ladish session a
bit much for me - but I appreciate the work that has gone into it
all.. Anyway, it all seems to be working much better than avlinux was
on that system - no crackles on linuxsampler, for example. Pulse and
jack seem to be playing together reasonably well.
On the "live" laptop - eeepc 701, I have done some more
experimentation and come up with some very surprising (to me)
discoveries.
1) Running whysynth in ghostess led to a nasty lockups when playing
too many notes (CPU couldn't cope).
2) ams - ok as monosynth (but a bit heavy for this little computer),
no really feasible to use as polyphony
3) amsynth - works very nicely, but maybe not able to create the pad
sounds etc. that I need.
4) Carla - too fiddly (for me) for live use.
Now, here's what I seem to have come down on. Amazingly all these run
on this little computer at the same time, and are capable of full
polyphony with no major xrun issues (1024 samples on jackd - might be
possible to reduce this further, but it is perfectly usable for a midi
keyboard):
1) setBfree - lovely!
2) yoshimi - amazing!
3) qsampler/linuxsampler (with rainpiano gig at the moment) - stupendous!
CPU idles around 45%, but only peaks at 60% with the first two (what I
considered pretty heavy-duty) synths. setBfree only goes up to 48%. I
think linuxsampler is the most sensitive - if I go too overboard on
the expression pedal, I can crash the whole thing - so either I don't
plug in an expression pedal for live use, or I don't use it... Might
investigate soundfonts for a piano sound if I need it.
A|ll are running on different midi channels (I had some issues with
Beatrix which segfaulted if I tried to use a midi channel it wasn't
connected to - so setBfree is a great addition).
The main issue I have at present is with yoshimi - i would like to
change program (and ideally bank) using the midi controller, but this
doesn't seem to work with the 1.0 version from kxstudio. Is this not
possible with yoshimi at present, or is there a development version I
could use?
James
12:33 p.m.
On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 11:18 +0000, James Stone wrote:
Anyway, it all seems to be working much better than
avlinux was
on that system
This is good news :).
For audio Ubuntu on my machine is the better choice too, but it seems to
depend to the machine:
lists.64studio.com/pipermail/64studio-users/2012-November/004735.html
At the moment I suffer to set up my Ubuntu for audio + averaged desktop
usage. Even changing sub-pixel order for the fonts etc. doesn't work.
Regards,
Ralf
23 Nov
23 Nov
12:58 a.m.
has the midi learning code been incorporated into 0.62 as well?
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>wrote;wrote:
On 11/22/2012 12:32 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Even changing sub-pixel order for the fonts etc.
doesn't work.
Recently I had the same issue. Turned out the monitor settings were wrong
and sharpness was set way too high.
Regards,
Jeremy
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No it was my mistake... at least I can't make it work.. must be another
branch..
On Nov 22, 2012 11:59 PM, "Danni Coy" <danni.coy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
has the midi learning code been incorporated into 0.62
as well?
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Even changing sub-pixel order for the fonts etc.
doesn't work.
Recently I had the same issue. Turned out the monitor settings were wrong
and sharpness was set way too high.
Regards,
Jeremy
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New subject: Yoshimi and MIDI learn (was Synths for live use)
On 11/23/2012 12:58 AM, Danni Coy wrote:
has the midi learning code been incorporated into 0.62
as well?
No. MIDI learn is in a different forked branch and in its current state
it will not be implemented in either Yoshimi 0.062 or 1.0.
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Jeremy
22 Nov
22 Nov
12:49 p.m.
On 11/22/2012 12:18 PM, James Stone wrote:
3) amsynth - works very nicely, but maybe not able to
create the pad
sounds etc. that I need.
Check here for extra banks that contain some very interesting and usable
sounds:
http://forum.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9982&p=31975#p3…
4) Carla - too fiddly (for me) for live use.
Now, here's what I seem to have come down on. Amazingly all these run
on this little computer at the same time, and are capable of full
polyphony with no major xrun issues (1024 samples on jackd - might be
possible to reduce this further, but it is perfectly usable for a midi
keyboard):
1) setBfree - lovely!
2) yoshimi - amazing!
You should try latest git, it contains some optimizations that lower CPU
usage drastically:
https://launchpad.net/~autostatic/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2769495/+listing-…
The main issue I have at present is with yoshimi - i
would like to
change program (and ideally bank) using the midi controller, but this
doesn't seem to work with the 1.0 version from kxstudio. Is this not
possible with yoshimi at present, or is there a development version I
could use?
Switching banks via MIDI is in the experimental 0.062 branch, not in the
stable 1.0 branch. If you'd like to see it in the stable branch please
add a feature request here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=295223&atid=1246615
This functionality has been proposed several times so it should deserve
some more attention.
Regards,
Jeremy
James
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2:51 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 20, 2012 1:14 PM, "Paul Davis"
<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
intel-compatible CPUs that do not support SSE2 are now a rare breed in
desktops + laptops. i'm not saying it can't be used, just that you're doing
without a very very powerful set of instructions that dramatically improves
the performance of apps doing floating point math (e.g. audio). its just
not a machine i'd pick to do synthesis with unless it my only choice.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:50 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Yes. I'm just trying out different things. I had Debian on the desktop
computer for a long time (10 yrs without a reinstall!) I have Ubuntu Studio
on my work laptop and a minimal ubuntu + LXDE on the netbook.. I thought
AVLinux was looking good from pov of Jack performance but I am hitting some
problems with the apps installed (optimised for SSE2 when my CPU wont do
it, this linuxsampler problem etc..).
not having an SSE2 CPU seems like a bad, bad place to start ...
Perhaps.. but I don't see myself upgrading in the near future. After all,
it has handled everything I havd thrown at it until now.. and I am not
trying to do anything dramatically different or more CPU intense than
anything I have done before.
I don't think Athlon XPs are that uncommon amongst Linux users given our
fondness for keeping machines running as long as possible!
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