Ahh, funny you should ask this. I have been experimenting with both Fluxbox (http://www.fluxbox.org) and FVWM (http://www.fvwm.org) under CCRMA (fedora). I originally went with fluxbox but, at least for me, it actually had to much extra stuff (slit, tabs, icon bar). I really only needed a root menu, hotkeys and a pager, after a bunch of looking around I ended up with FVWM. Its learning curve is a bit daunting (this is linux isn't it?) but that is sort of mitigated by 2 things: The sheer amount of stuff you could do with it if you wanted, and the FVWM-themes project (http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net) Don't let the initial desktop scare you away from FVWM, it's so customizable you can make it look and work like pretty much any other WM out there. As far as resources go, neither of these are CPU hogs (FVWM does have some modules that potentially can eat up CPU). Installed FVWM takes up a bit more diskspace (even more so when using the themes package), but once again not enough space to warrant immediate dismissal. Fluxbox is much more easy to manage and it only took me about an hour 2 to get a theme that I liked and a full set of hotkeys and a CCRMA menu (the auto-menu scripts in both WM packages don't seem to find the CCRMA stuff, so you will have to edit by hand, relatively painless in fluxbox, a bit more time intensive in FVWM.) m. _________________________________________________ Scanned on 18 Feb 2004 22:30:28 Scanning by http://erado.com