27 Apr
2004
27 Apr
'04
1:01 p.m.
Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
Best regards,
dp
27 Apr
27 Apr
3:06 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:33:03AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
I have the cursed Neomagic 256 AV in my old Dell CPI-A.
I found that with Alsa, the system had a roughly 60% chance
of total lockup when loading the driver.
I had some back-and-forth email with Takashi which resulted
in some patches that made the driver less likely to freeze the
system, and at one point it was down to maybe a 10% chance of lockup.
But later releases of ALSA made it much worse again.
Eventually I gave up... I don't run audio on that laptop anymore :-(
On the random occasions that it managed to load, the driver worked fine :-\
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3:57 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 12:59:31PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:33:03AM -0400, Dave
Phillips wrote:
Forgot to mention - overall I had better luck with the OSS-Free driver.
It froze occasionally but not nearly as often.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
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Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
I have the cursed Neomagic 256 AV in my old Dell CPI-A.
I found that with Alsa, the system had a roughly 60% chance
of total lockup when loading the driver.
I had some back-and-forth email with Takashi which resulted
in some patches that made the driver less likely to freeze the
system, and at one point it was down to maybe a 10% chance of lockup.
But later releases of ALSA made it much worse again.
Eventually I gave up... I don't run audio on that laptop anymore :-( 
4:06 p.m.
Paul Winkler wrote:
I have the cursed Neomagic 256 AV in my old Dell
CPI-A.
I found that with Alsa, the system had a roughly 60% chance
of total lockup when loading the driver.
I had some back-and-forth email with Takashi which resulted
in some patches that made the driver less likely to freeze the
system, and at one point it was down to maybe a 10% chance of lockup.
But later releases of ALSA made it much worse again.
Eventually I gave up... I don't run audio on that laptop anymore :-(
On the random occasions that it managed to load, the driver worked fine :-\
This sounds like my experience with the cursed RME HDSP9652 before I
finally gave up. I didn't have the lockups. The machine just didn't load
the driver 90% of the time. The 10% of the time it did load it worked fine.
It had been much better in earlier version of Alsa and earlier kernels,
loading and working (sort of) 100% of the time, but then finally got so
bad it wasn't worth the time spent to make it work...
- Mark
4:09 p.m.
'Paul Winkler' wrote about 'Re: [linux-audio-user] my live CD dilemma' -
Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 06:59:31PM CEST
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:33:03AM -0400, Dave
Phillips wrote:
My Dell CPI400 uses also the Neomagic driver and it has the very same
behaviour, although for me the % to have a lockup feels more like 25%.
This was both for the OSS driver and later the ALSA driver.
I could add to that that even in the time I still used
windows 2000 on it (3 years ago) it locked up on audio in
windows also occationally, soo maybe it's a hardware issue.
Greetings, Joost
Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
I have the cursed Neomagic 256 AV in my old Dell CPI-A.
I found that with Alsa, the system had a roughly 60% chance
of total lockup when loading the driver.
I had some back-and-forth email with Takashi which resulted
in some patches that made the driver less likely to freeze the
system, and at one point it was down to maybe a 10% chance of lockup.
But later releases of ALSA made it much worse again.
Eventually I gave up... I don't run audio on that laptop anymore :-(
On the random occasions that it managed to load, the driver worked fine :-\
4:23 p.m.
Greetings:
Thank you to all who replied to my original mail.
Paul, I've had no trouble with the laptop (an HP Omnibook 4150) audio
chipset under ALSA, as long as I load the CS4232 module instead of the
one for the NM256. Takashi pointed out that the NeoMagic set is
essentially the CS chipset under another name, and indeed the CS4232
module works flawlessly. OTOH, all attempts failed with the NM256 module
for ALSA, OSS/Free, and OSS/Linux. In the case of OSS/Linux I was
advised to try the NM2000 instead, and that module also worked.
So basically the NM256 is crap, and when it's identified by one of the
live distros everything stops. Is there any way around it ?
Best,
dp
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:33:03AM -0400, Dave Phillips
wrote:
Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
I have the cursed Neomagic 256 AV in my old Dell CPI-A.
I found that with Alsa, the system had a roughly 60% chance
of total lockup when loading the driver.
I had some back-and-forth email with Takashi which resulted
in some patches that made the driver less likely to freeze the
system, and at one point it was down to maybe a 10% chance of lockup.
But later releases of ALSA made it much worse again.
Eventually I gave up... I don't run audio on that laptop anymore :-(
On the random occasions that it managed to load, the driver worked fine :-\
5:09 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
Last night I tried running the latest Dynebolic and AGNULA live discs
from my laptop and from Ivy's desktop machine. Both failed due to
different reasons. The desktop machine's CD-ROM drive is old, and I kept
getting looped in a 'bad read' error. The laptop is not so stable these
days, but both distros failed at the same point: they recognize the A/V
chipset (a NeoMagic NM256 piece o' crap) and stall there. I'll have the
laptop with me in Karlsruhe, maybe one of the gurus can help me with it
then ?
Best regards,
dp
it must be possible to start without the audio driver (? linux
audio=off?) it's explained on mandrake cd, but I don't remember the
debian syntax for that
of course it's a shame, but after you may try different drivers.
jdd
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