ok this is getting weird. usb audio decided to run the other day when i rebooted into 2.4.18 kernel (from mandrake 8.2 install... the one that used to work fine). i thought i'd recompiled alsa for that kernel by mistake. but no - it turns out i've recompiled for both 2.4.18 and 19. sooo... why did it work a couple of days ago and wont work yesterday and today????? the modules *are* loading... this is output of lsmod: snd-seq-oss 25376 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3400 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq 37388 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss 38756 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 10496 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-usb-audio 34208 0 (unused) snd-pcm 56928 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-usb-audio] snd-timer 9952 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] usbcore 59072 0 [snd-usb-audio] snd-rawmidi 12224 0 [snd-usb-audio] snd-seq-device 4000 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd 26728 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pc m-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-usb-audio snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 4068 2 [snd] i have these devices: [root@hamish miriam]# ls -l /dev/dsp* lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 crwxrwxrwx 1 miriam audio 14, 3 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/dsp0 crw------- 1 miriam audio 14, 19 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/dsp1 crw------- 1 miriam audio 14, 35 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/dsp2 crw------- 1 miriam audio 14, 51 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/dsp3 [root@hamish miriam]# ls -l /dev/s* crwxrwxrwx 1 miriam audio 14, 1 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/sequencer lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 10 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/sequencer2 -> /dev/music lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 4 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/stderr -> fd/2 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 4 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/stdin -> fd/0 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 4 Dec 22 19:43 /dev/stdout -> fd/1 /dev/scsi: total 0 /dev/shm: total 0 /dev/snd: total 0 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 0 Jan 1 1970 controlC0 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 32 Jan 1 1970 controlC1 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 64 Jan 1 1970 controlC2 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 96 Jan 1 1970 controlC3 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 128 Jan 1 1970 controlC4 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 160 Jan 1 1970 controlC5 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 192 Jan 1 1970 controlC6 crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 224 Jan 1 1970 controlC7 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 16 Dec 22 19:50 dev -> /proc/asound/dev/ crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 1 Jan 1 1970 seq crw------- 1 miriam audio 116, 33 Jan 1 1970 timer /dev/sound: total 0 crw------- 1 miriam audio 14, 1 Jan 1 1970 sequencer crw------- 1 miriam audio 14, 8 Jan 1 1970 sequencer2 so whats going on???????? -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? info(a)copyleftmedia.org.uk www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \ cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp *** stopping make sense ***