24 Nov
2008
24 Nov
'08
7:21 a.m.
Hi,
I'm experimenting a bit with commercial software and wine. I'm not want to
use it myself but want to show my friends what is possible.
I'm following this howto:
http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-winea…
But when I start wine I get:
~$ winecfg
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on M Audio Audiophile
24/96, disabling mixer
When I hit the sound tab, my system (ubuntu hardy) freezes and I've to
reboot
What could this be?
\r
24 Nov
24 Nov
7:37 a.m.
rosea grammostola wrote:
I'm experimenting a bit with commercial software
and wine. I'm not
want to use it myself but want to show my friends what is possible.
I'm following this howto:
http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-winea…
But when I start wine I get:
~$ winecfg
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on M Audio
Audiophile 24/96, disabling mixer
This "error" simply indicates that there's no mixer element to your
sound device. My M-Audio Delta 66 yields the same report. I think you
can safely ignore it.
When I hit the sound tab, my system (ubuntu hardy)
freezes and I've to
reboot
What could this be?
A much more serious problem. I have no idea yet what's
going on "behind
the scenes" with sound on Ubuntu. Maybe a Pulseaudio problem ?
Best,
dp
7:41 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com>wrote;wrote:
rosea grammostola wrote:
Thanks for your reply.
Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I'm experimenting a bit with commercial
software and wine. I'm not want to
use it myself but want to show my friends what is possible.
I'm following this howto:
http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-winea…
But when I start wine I get:
~$ winecfg
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on M Audio Audiophile
24/96, disabling mixer
This "error" simply indicates that there's no mixer element to your sound
device. My M-Audio Delta 66 yields the same report. I think you can safely
ignore it.
When I hit the sound tab, my system (ubuntu hardy) freezes and I've to
reboot
What could this be?
A much more serious problem. I have no idea yet what's going on "behind
the
scenes" with sound on Ubuntu. Maybe a Pulseaudio problem ?
Best,
dp
8:04 a.m.
rosea grammostola wrote:
Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I've only used Pulseaudio in the context of a review of media players
for Ubuntu 8.04. At that time and for that purpose it performed fine,
but I don't know how it interoperates with JACK or other servers. AFAIK
you can remove it, but you'll probably find that it's a dependency for
many other apps. Boo-hiss for that factor. :(
I'm learmning about Ubuntu 8.10 now as a matter of necessity. So far so
good, but I've yet to muck about with the Pulseaudio stuff. Nothing
against the software itself, but I don't need it, don't want it, and
would like to cleanly remove it.
Best,
dp
8:09 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com>wrote;wrote:
rosea grammostola wrote:
+1, I've the feeling that pulseaudio is making the management of sound on
Ubuntu unnecessarily complex...
But about the wine problem... I've also an onboard intel soundcard next to
my maudio audiophile pci... Could that be the cause of the problem?
Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I've only used Pulseaudio in the context of a review of media players for
Ubuntu 8.04. At that time and for that purpose it performed fine, but I
don't know how it interoperates with JACK or other servers. AFAIK you can
remove it, but you'll probably find that it's a dependency for many other
apps. Boo-hiss for that factor. :(
I'm learmning about Ubuntu 8.10 now as a matter of necessity. So far so
good, but I've yet to muck about with the Pulseaudio stuff. Nothing against
the software itself, but I don't need it, don't want it, and would like to
cleanly remove it.
Best,
dp
8:46 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:09 PM, rosea grammostola <
rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com>wrote;wrote:
If I start mscore I got:
suspending pulseaudio
and then the system freezes....
Problems with wine, mscore > crashing... VLC, audacious, amarok > no sound
and flashvideo's on the internet, no sound...
exaille, totem, rhythmbox > sound...
Ubuntu hardy.
rosea grammostola wrote:
+1, I've the feeling that pulseaudio is making the management of sound on
Ubuntu unnecessarily complex...
But about the wine problem... I've also an onboard intel soundcard next to
my maudio audiophile pci... Could that be the cause of the problem?
Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I've only used Pulseaudio in the context of a review of media players
for
Ubuntu 8.04. At that time and for that purpose it performed fine, but I
don't know how it interoperates with JACK or other servers. AFAIK you can
remove it, but you'll probably find that it's a dependency for many other
apps. Boo-hiss for that factor. :(
I'm learmning about Ubuntu 8.10 now as a matter of necessity. So far so
good, but I've yet to muck about with the Pulseaudio stuff. Nothing against
the software itself, but I don't need it, don't want it, and would like to
cleanly remove it.
Best,
dp
25 Nov
25 Nov
5:12 a.m.
On Monday 24 November 2008, Dave Phillips wrote:
rosea grammostola wrote:
Pulseaudio itself is quite useful, though i don't use it myself. There however
_is_ a problem with the ubuntu way of using it. They use a virtual PCM device
for pulseaudio and make it the _default_ pcm device vie /etc/asound.conf. On
my system this effectively kills all sound, as it uses the modem device i have
in my system.. Thus all alsa app go through my onboard modem. I didn't find a
way to change this. So in my login scripts i now have
killall pulseaudio
as an effective solution ;) Another would be to edit /etc/asound.conf
Flo
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Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I've only used Pulseaudio in the context of a review of media players
for Ubuntu 8.04. At that time and for that purpose it performed fine,
but I don't know how it interoperates with JACK or other servers. AFAIK
you can remove it, but you'll probably find that it's a dependency for
many other apps. Boo-hiss for that factor. :(
I'm learmning about Ubuntu 8.10 now as a matter of necessity. So far so
good, but I've yet to muck about with the Pulseaudio stuff. Nothing
against the software itself, but I don't need it, don't want it, and
would like to cleanly remove it. 
5:16 a.m.
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 10:12 +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
On Monday 24 November 2008, Dave Phillips wrote:
I have found that using pulse audio volume control gives me a handy
little interface that I can set the stream to point to the correct card
per application.
The first time I use an app I just need to make sure it is being
directed through the correct device.
rosea grammostola wrote:
> Is pulseaudio useful? or can I remove it?
I've only used Pulseaudio in the context of a
review of media
players
for Ubuntu 8.04. At that time and for that
purpose it performed
fine,
but I don't know how it interoperates with
JACK or other servers.
AFAIK
you can remove it, but you'll probably find
that it's a dependency
for
many other apps. Boo-hiss for that factor. :(
I'm learmning about Ubuntu 8.10 now as a
matter of necessity. So far
so
good, but I've yet to muck about with the
Pulseaudio stuff. Nothing
against the software itself, but I don't need
it, don't want it, and
would like to cleanly remove it.
Pulseaudio itself is quite useful, though i don't use it myself. There
however _is_ a problem with the ubuntu way of using it. They use a
virtual PCM device for pulseaudio and make it the _default_ pcm device
vie /etc/asound.conf. On my system this effectively kills all sound,
as it uses the modem device i have in my system.. Thus all alsa app go
through my onboard modem. I didn't find a way to change this. So in my
login scripts i now have
killall pulseaudio
as an effective solution ;) Another would be to edit /etc/asound.conf
Flo
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http://tapas.affenbande.org
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5:21 a.m.
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I have found that using pulse audio volume control
gives me a handy
little interface that I can set the stream to point to the correct card
per application.
The first time I use an app I just need to make sure it is being
directed through the correct device.
I tried that app [pavucontrol].. It offers me no way to choose e.g. my delta
or the emu10k1. It insists that there's only onboard sound :(
Since i don't need pulseaudio i'm happy with it being disabled. I guess i
could file a bug report etc, but i don't care enough ;)
Flo
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5:32 a.m.
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 10:21 +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I'm using pulseaudio 0.9.10 which comes with Fedora 9
I have a selection of all the cards on my system to choose from when I
right click on the stream that is playing.
hw: plughw: and asoundrc definitions.
I haven't set anything up. Fedora did it all for me and quite
surprisingly got it right. The only issue I have is that my default card
is my usb voip phone and not my onboard device.
Cheers.
I have found that using pulse audio volume
control gives me a handy
little interface that I can set the stream to
point to the correct
card
per application.
The first time I use an app I just need to make
sure it is being
directed through the correct device.
I tried that app [pavucontrol].. It offers me no way to choose e.g. my
delta or the emu10k1. It insists that there's only onboard sound :(
Since i don't need pulseaudio i'm happy with it being disabled. I
guess i could file a bug report etc, but i don't care enough ;)
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
5:52 a.m.
On Di, 25.11.08 10:21 Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
That's most likely HAL not detecting the DACs correctly.
Happens with my Audiophile 24/96 too.
So you have to override HAL detection in ~/.pulse/default.pa or
systemwhide in /etc/pulse/default.pa
Uncomment following:
----------
.ifexists module-hal-detect.so
load-module module-hal-detect
.else
load-module module-detect
.endif
----------
And add following (that's one line for each definition!):
----------
load-module module-alsa-sink sink_name=maudio_out device=hw:0
channels=10
channel_map=left,right,aux0,aux1,aux2,aux3,aux4,aux5,aux6,aux7
load-module module-alsa-source source_name=maudio_in device=hw:0
channels=12
channel_map=left,right,aux0,aux1,aux2,aux3,aux4,aux5,aux6,aux7,aux8,aux9
----------
You could also blast it through jack:
----------
load-module module-jack-sink channels=2
channel_map=front-left,front-right
load-module module-jack-source channels=2
channel_map=front-left,front-right
----------
Anyways, I just played with pulseaudio.. not that I would need it in
times of dmix. And all in all, I found it to be completely useless.
Cheers,
Thomas
I have found that using pulse audio volume
control gives me a handy
little interface that I can set the stream to point to the correct
card per application.
The first time I use an app I just need to make sure it is being
directed through the correct device.
I tried that app [pavucontrol].. It offers me no way to choose e.g.
my delta or the emu10k1. It insists that there's only onboard sound :(
Since i don't need pulseaudio i'm happy with it being disabled. I
guess i could file a bug report etc, but i don't care enough ;)
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
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