30 Aug
2008
30 Aug
'08
3:06 p.m.
Hi,
What I understand from music lessons is that the drummer in a band can
play 3-beat (3 beats per quarter note rhythm) or 4-beat. 3-beat is
common in (swing)blues (?) and 4-beat is more common in popular music
(e.g. rock, pop).
I'm wondering what this means for the drum notation. How do you write it
down when the drummer uses 3-beat in for example 'Can't Help Falling in
Love' from Elvis Presley?
Thanks in advance,
30 Aug
30 Aug
11:36 p.m.
At the beginning of the bar; time signature. Normally you don't see the time
signature on every bar because it's the same as the previous.
31 Aug
31 Aug
7:15 a.m.
Ray Rashif wrote:
At the beginning of the bar; time signature. Normally
you don't see
the time signature on every bar because it's the same as the previous.
No I
don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
8:20 a.m.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:13, Grammostola Rosea <
rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
That's triplets.
http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/rhythm/the-eighth-note-triplet-subdivision/
--
Anders Dahnielson
<anders(a)dahnielson.com>
At the beginning of the bar; time signature.
Normally you don't see
the time signature on every bar because it's the same as the previous.
No I
don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
8:36 a.m.
Anders Dahnielson wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:13, Grammostola Rosea
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com <mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
Ah ok, thanks.
At the beginning of the bar; time signature.
Normally you don't see
the time signature on every bar because it's the same as the
previous.
No I don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
That's triplets.
http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html
<http://www.izap.com/%7Epinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html>
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/rhythm/the-eighth-note-triplet-subdivision/
8:43 a.m.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:34, Grammostola Rosea <
rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Anders Dahnielson wrote:
Ah ok, thanks.
Just FYI, eight-note triplets in 4/4 can also be notated as three regular
eight-notes in 12/8, but that's slightly over course.
I also want to give a shout out to this resource:
http://www.berkleeshares.com
--
Anders Dahnielson
<anders(a)dahnielson.com>
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:13, Grammostola Rosea
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com <mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/rhythm/the-eighth-note-triplet-subdivision/
At the beginning of the bar; time signature.
Normally you don't see
the time signature on every bar because it's the same as the
previous.
No I don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
That's triplets.
http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html<http://www.izap.co…
<http://www.izap.com/%7Epinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html>
8:47 a.m.
Anders Dahnielson wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:34, Grammostola Rosea
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com <mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>> wrote:
Anders Dahnielson wrote:
etc.
Ah ok, thanks.
Just FYI, eight-note triplets in 4/4 can also be notated as three
regular eight-notes in 12/8, but that's slightly over course.
Ok, good to
know.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:13, Grammostola Rosea
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com
<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>
<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com
<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>>> wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
> At the beginning of the bar; time signature. Normally you
don't
see
the time
signature on every bar because it's the same as the
previous.
No I don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
That's triplets.
http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html
<http://www.izap.com/%7Epinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html>
<http://www.izap.com/%7Epinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html>
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/rhythm/the-eighth-note-triplet-subdivision/
I also want to give a shout out to this resource:
http://www.berkleeshares.com
Thanks, looks like a great resource!
8:43 a.m.
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
Anders Dahnielson wrote:
And this is how you write it down with Lilypond
\relative c' {
\times 2/3 {e8 g e} \times 2/3 {d c d} |
\times 2/3 {c4 e g} c2
}
using the \times command
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:13, Grammostola Rosea
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com <mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
Ah ok, thanks.
_ At the beginning of the bar; time signature.
Normally you don't see
the time signature on every bar because it's the same as the
previous.
No I don't mean 3/4 or 4/4.
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3
In blues they play often 1-*-3 1-*-3 1 etc
* = no hit
or
1 2 3 4 | 1 etc.
1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4
Hope this is more clear to someone ;)
That's triplets.
http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html
<http://www.izap.com/%7Epinnacle/rhythms/r.triplets.html>
http://www.studybass.com/lessons/rhythm/the-eighth-note-triplet-subdivision/
3:21 p.m.
I think what you mean is swung eighth notes. Indeed they are eighth note
triplets played in 4/4 however the first two eighth note triples of each
subdivision are tied or dotted making there duration combined. This gives
the swing feel you hear in jazz or blues.
Daniel Worth
www.opensourcemusician.libsyn.com
4:48 p.m.
Daniel Worth wrote:
I think what you mean is swung eighth notes. Indeed
they are eighth
note triplets played in 4/4 however the first two eighth note triples
of each subdivision are tied or dotted making there duration combined.
This gives the swing feel you hear in jazz or blues.
Daniel Worth
www.opensourcemusician.libsyn.com
<http://www.opensourcemusician.libsyn.com>
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Ok,
that's useful information.
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