Hi Louis, --- Louis Lam <lshoujun(a)yahoo.com> wrote: I think what's required is called "full duplexing." The card is capable of simultaneous input and output. I use a hardware mixer so I'm not real on the ball about this. In a sense, what you want to do with an audio card and what I do with the mixer are identical. I achieve zero latency monitoring by routing the hardware mixer inputs to aux1,2. You accomplish this by returning an input to its counterpart output at the audio card. So I think the only difference is that I can route the input in a mixer but you can't in a pci audio card. Or maybe you can route the signals which would be very useful. Hmmm, it only makes sense that you can route input signals with cards that have hardware mixers. This is something that you should study up on. If pci card hardware mixers follow mixing consol paradigms then you might be able to create scenarios where you route input N to the equivalent of an Aux bus. If this paradigm is followed, you might be able to configure a port's send source as post or pre fader. If that's the case, then you can run multiple monitoring mixes; control room, head phone, etc. This is interesting because the drummer needs a very loud click track but you (control room) don't want that loud click. My audio card has one to one mapings for inputs and outputs and doesn't have a hardware mixer. I imagine cards like the newer RME HDSP that have hardware mixers can do the things I'm describing. It's hard for me to imagine that they can't but I have no experience with hardware card mixers. I've never understood why the same option exists in both Ardour and Jackd. And I've never cared. Because you're not monitoring the Ardour track outputs, you should be able to record enable and mute them but still monitor a signal. I suppose that's a little test. Yes, it routes the hardware audio card input to its output. What you monitor has never reached Ardour. Capture puts the recorded Ardour recieves an incoming audio signal, builds a playlist that says start position equals N, volume N, pan X/Y, etc. Within Ardour, there's nothing we can do to adjust latency of recording. That isn't the users problem. Besides, any latency within the Ardour record realm will be relative across all tracks. Am I understanding your concern? ron ________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Hi Jan, how are u? any new songs recorded from your band? Hello to everyone. --- Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote: I'm running as root the whole time. 2.4.25-multimedia kernel from Agnula/DeMuDi. I did try to run jackd at 48Khz rate initially, but at that point of time I didn't notice the xruns because I was only trying to test the card (maybe 2 weeks ago...). So I can't recall the behaviour of this card at 48khz...not much impression. What I can remember from the time I ran jackd@48Khz and ardour was this: Ardour thinks that the card is sampling at 47Khz! It shows up on the Ardour window. I find this odd because most of the time I see common sampling rate 44khz,48khz but not 47khz. I asked this question on one of the IRC channels and was told that no card really samples exactly at 48khz. For this "odd" sampling rate reason and also most of the drum samples I use are at 44khz. I just set myself to record everything at 44khz and didn't look at 48khz. So i kind of refrained from it for a while :) But thanks for the tip... perhaps I should try that again. When i'm not having XRuns, I do have quite a number of "late driver wakeup" messages when running with this card though. They appear quite frequently. I don't quite understand what this means though. So far I can't find information/explanation for this. I was still able to record with Ardour a track at a time while playing back the recorded stuff at the same time for 2 minutes without pops, hisses and dropouts. I'm quite sure I can record more than 2 minutes under this situation(2 minutes because I start to run out of ideas... not because the system can't take it ;-P). I have also tried to record with ardour with plugins on (don't have a guitar amp so using the CAPS ladspa plugins), when I do that sometimes I get xruns and jack complains ardour is not "fast" enough or something like that. For dry signals normally its not much of an issue. Thanks a lot, Louis ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html