6 Feb
2013
6 Feb
'13
9:44 p.m.
Does anyone have any experience of using a MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it automatically
found by my machine?
I'm hoping to be able to use Yoshimi on my netbook at an impromptu gig.
I'm running a cut-down debian, but will get qjackctl from the repository (which
usually fetches and configures everything else I need.
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6 Feb
6 Feb
9:51 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Folderol <folderol(a)ukfsn.org> wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of using a
MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
What do you mean by "dumb" here? That it doesn't make sound on its
own?
If so, they're they only kind of keyboard I've ever owned, and if its class
compliant Midi over USB, it just pops up in the ALSA tab of QJackCtl.
Using the MIDI driver selection in QJackCtl's setup dialog, you can specify
"raw" or "seq", both will show the ALSA soundcards MIDI events in JACK
MIDI.
If you're still doubtful, what's the make & model of the keyboard? Perhaps
somebody has experience with that exact hardware.
HTH, -Harry
10:31 p.m.
On topic: I have a cheap Akai Pro LPK25 Laptop Performance Keyboard
I plug it in and it shows up as a device in qjackctl and works with no
probem
On a tangent: When I do this, it shows up as Alsa midi, not as jack
midi. i use a2j to show both. How can I make it show up as Jack midi
without a separate program?
Matt
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Harry van Haaren <harryhaaren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Folderol <folderol(a)ukfsn.org> wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of using a MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
What do you mean by "dumb" here? That it doesn't make sound on its own?
If so, they're they only kind of keyboard I've ever owned, and if its class
compliant Midi over USB, it just pops up in the ALSA tab of QJackCtl.
Using the MIDI driver selection in QJackCtl's setup dialog, you can specify
"raw" or "seq", both will show the ALSA soundcards MIDI events in JACK
MIDI.
If you're still doubtful, what's the make & model of the keyboard? Perhaps
somebody has experience with that exact hardware.
HTH, -Harry
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11:03 p.m.
@Harry
Yes dumb as in only sends MIDI (and may even be powered over USB).
The problem I have is that I don't know what keyboard it will be. The idea is
that I just take my netbook and plug in what is available.
@Matt
That's encoraging. If a cheap one works easily, there's how that a slightly
better one will be OK too - if that's not too optimistic!
Also, Alsa MIDI suits me. It's what I've been using up to now on my main
setup :)
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11:23 p.m.
On 02/06/2013 03:43 PM, Folderol wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of using a
MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it automatically
found by my machine?
If it's a simple class-compliant controller, it will just show up. If
it has a bunch of features built-in, or isn't class-compliant, it could
be a different story. I've used an M-Audio Oxygen, and it worked fine.
But I also tried an Alesis, and it didn't work so well.
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7 Feb
7 Feb
3:57 a.m.
On 06/02/13 22:22, Al Thompson wrote:
On 02/06/2013 03:43 PM, Folderol wrote:
I've used both an Edirol PC-50 and an M-Audio Keystation 88ES and both
worked flawlessly.
My Moog Little Phatty Stage II also shows up and works perfectly,
although that obviously isn't bus powered :-)
Although not keyboards, I have a Korg NanoKontrol and Korg NanoPad, both
the original models, and both work fine.
Does anyone have any experience of using a
MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it automatically
found by my machine?
If it's a simple class-compliant controller, it will just show up. If
it has a bunch of features built-in, or isn't class-compliant, it could
be a different story. I've used an M-Audio Oxygen, and it worked fine.
But I also tried an Alesis, and it didn't work so well. 
10:56 a.m.
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:57:31 +0000, Q wrote
I've used both an Edirol PC-50 and an M-Audio Keystation 88ES and
both worked flawlessly.
In general, I'd agree - jut onbe word of caucion:
I use an M-Audio Axiom whose USB implementation has one serious
bug: it _only_ works with a direct (i.e. no-hub) connection between
keyboard and host controller (a documented _feature_ of the device. Yes,
it's mentioned in the manual ...). Sometimes that can be a nasty
showstopper when used with laptops/netbooks with limited USB ports.
Even worse, the USB ports on my IBM's docking station look like an
USB hub to the device - no way to have the keyboard hooked up to the
docking station (and that was one reason to buy the dock in the first place).
HTH Ralf Mattes
On 06/02/13 22:22, Al Thompson wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 03:43 PM, Folderol wrote:
>> Does anyone have any experience of using a MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
>> Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it
automatically
found by my machine?
If it's a simple class-compliant controller, it will just show up. If
it has a bunch of features built-in, or isn't class-compliant, it could
be a different story. I've used an M-Audio Oxygen, and it worked fine.
But I also tried an Alesis, and it didn't work so well.
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8:24 p.m.
On 02/07/2013 10:56 AM, R. Mattes wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:57:31 +0000, Q wrote
I've used both an Edirol PC-50 and an M-Audio Keystation 88ES and
both worked flawlessly.
In general, I'd agree - jut onbe word of caucion:
I use an M-Audio Axiom whose USB implementation has one serious
bug: it _only_ works with a direct (i.e. no-hub) connection between
keyboard and host controller (a documented _feature_ of the device. Yes,
it's mentioned in the manual ...). Sometimes that can be a nasty
showstopper when used with laptops/netbooks with limited USB ports.
Even worse, the USB ports on my IBM's docking station look like an
USB hub to the device - no way to have the keyboard hooked up to the
docking station (and that was one reason to buy the dock in the first place).
HTH Ralf Mattes
Really? My M-Audio Axiom 25 works flawlessly through a hub (2006 model)
On 06/02/13 22:22, Al Thompson wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 03:43 PM, Folderol wrote:
>> Does anyone have any experience of using a MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
>> Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it
automatically
found by my machine?
If it's a simple class-compliant controller, it will just show up. If
it has a bunch of features built-in, or isn't class-compliant, it could
be a different story. I've used an M-Audio Oxygen, and it worked fine.
But I also tried an Alesis, and it didn't work so well.
8 Feb
8 Feb
9:55 a.m.
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:06 +0100, Brendan Jones wrote
On 02/07/2013 10:56 AM, R. Mattes wrote:
> I use an M-Audio Axiom whose USB implementation
has one serious
> bug: it _only_ works with a direct (i.e. no-hub) connection between
> keyboard and host controller (a documented _feature_ of the device. Yes,
> it's mentioned in the manual ...). Sometimes that can be a nasty
> showstopper when used with laptops/netbooks with limited USB ports.
> Even worse, the USB ports on my IBM's docking station look like an
> USB hub to the device - no way to have the keyboard hooked up to the
> docking station (and that was one reason to buy the dock in the first place)
Really? My M-Audio Axiom 25 works flawlessly through a
hub (2006
model)
Luky you. Never worked here - and see the following from their user guide,
Section 1.2 Setup, page 5:
"USB hubs are not supported. M-Audio suggests that you connect directly
to one of your computers built in USB ports."
Do you have any other gear connected to you hub while you use your
Axiom?
cheers, RalfD
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3:15 p.m.
On Fri, February 8, 2013 12:55 am, R. Mattes wrote:
Luky you. Never worked here - and see the following
from their user guide,
Section 1.2 Setup, page 5:
"USB hubs are not supported. M-Audio suggests that you connect directly
to one of your computers built in USB ports."
Do you have any other gear connected to you hub while you use your
Axiom?
A lot of computers already have an internal hub for more than one external
port. So even if you "connect directly to one of your computers built in
USB ports.", you are already using a hub. I have found it useful to check
which port each of my plugs is on any machine I use for music. Normally
USB 1-5. Almost always there is more than one plug on the same USB line.
In fact it seems only USB 1-3 gets used on both my machines. I do this so
I can avoid a USB port that shares irqs with the video card, etc.
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9 Feb
9 Feb
6:31 a.m.
On 02/08/2013 04:15 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
On Fri, February 8, 2013 12:55 am, R. Mattes wrote:
My 8-year-old laptop has 2 USB controllers (a USB 1.1 and a USB 2). I
also have an external 8-port USB2 hub. I had a lot of problems with my
UCA-202 when running it through the external hub that went away when I
connected it directly. So I have the external hub on one port (with 8
other devices plugged into it, none of which are RT sensitive). The
UCA-202 by itself on another port. And lastly an external hard drive on
the third port.
I've also been told to keep USB keyboards (typing) and mice off the same
USB bus as RT sensitive devices. I don't remember why or where I heard
that. I run mine through the external hub.
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Luky you. Never worked here - and see the
following from their user guide,
Section 1.2 Setup, page 5:
"USB hubs are not supported. M-Audio suggests that you connect directly
to one of your computer’s built in USB ports."
Do you have any other gear connected to you hub while you use your
Axiom?
A lot of computers already have an internal hub for more than one external
port. So even if you "connect directly to one of your computer’s built in
USB ports.", you are already using a hub. I have found it useful to check
which port each of my plugs is on any machine I use for music. Normally
USB 1-5. Almost always there is more than one plug on the same USB line.
In fact it seems only USB 1-3 gets used on both my machines. I do this so
I can avoid a USB port that shares irqs with the video card, etc.
12:31 a.m.
On 02/08/2013 09:55 AM, R. Mattes wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:06 +0100, Brendan Jones
wrote
Nothing with has huge throughput (wireless keyboard/mouse). Occasionally
a second MIDI controller (Akai MPK)
On 02/07/2013 10:56 AM, R. Mattes wrote:
> I use an M-Audio Axiom whose USB
implementation has one serious
> bug: it _only_ works with a direct (i.e. no-hub) connection between
> keyboard and host controller (a documented _feature_ of the device. Yes,
> it's mentioned in the manual ...). Sometimes that can be a nasty
> showstopper when used with laptops/netbooks with limited USB ports.
> Even worse, the USB ports on my IBM's docking station look like an
> USB hub to the device - no way to have the keyboard hooked up to the
> docking station (and that was one reason to buy the dock in the first place)
Really? My M-Audio Axiom 25 works flawlessly
through a hub (2006
model)
Luky you. Never worked here - and see the following from their user guide,
Section 1.2 Setup, page 5:
"USB hubs are not supported. M-Audio suggests that you connect directly
to one of your computer’s built in USB ports."
Do you have any other gear connected to you hub while you use your
Axiom?
8 Feb
8 Feb
11:51 p.m.
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 02:57:31 +0000
Q <lists(a)quirq.ukfsn.org> wrote:
On 06/02/13 22:22, Al Thompson wrote:
Thanks again everyone. This looks very encouraging. I now have yoshimi
installed on my eeePC 901. It seems fine except when using my 'mega' patches.
Then it can only hand a couple of notes at a time before it blocks (although it
doesn't crash).
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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
On 02/06/2013 03:43 PM, Folderol wrote:
I've used both an Edirol PC-50 and an M-Audio Keystation 88ES and both
worked flawlessly.
My Moog Little Phatty Stage II also shows up and works perfectly,
although that obviously isn't bus powered :-)
Although not keyboards, I have a Korg NanoKontrol and Korg NanoPad, both
the original models, and both work fine. Does anyone have any experience of using a
MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it automatically
found by my machine?
If it's a simple class-compliant controller, it will just show up. If
it has a bunch of features built-in, or isn't class-compliant, it could
be a different story. I've used an M-Audio Oxygen, and it worked fine.
But I also tried an Alesis, and it didn't work so well. 
7 Feb
7 Feb
8:44 a.m.
Folderol wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of using a
MIDI-over-USB dumb keyboard?
Does it need special drivers or can I just plug it in and have it automatically
found by my machine?
I don't know of any USB MIDI keyboard that isn't supported by my driver.
Regards,
Clemens
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