13 Sep
2008
13 Sep
'08
4:09 p.m.
I'd rather run Kubuntu rather then Ubuntu Studio 64 for my system. I was
wondering how hard it might be to install Kubuntu 64 then maybe enable
the Ubuntu Studio 64 repositories in order to grab their RT kernel and
get it working? From there, I would compile the music apps (and some of
the libs) that I want myself, so I can stay nice and up to date, a
complaint I've brought up in the past.
Possible? Would I be biting off more than is worth chewing?
* AMD64 X2 6000+ (3.1ghz)
* 2GB DDR2-800 RAM
* NVidia NForce chipset
Thanks!
Regards,
Darren Landrum
13 Sep
13 Sep
4:14 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Darren Landrum
<darren.landrum(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I'd rather run Kubuntu rather then Ubuntu Studio
64 for my system. I was
wondering how hard it might be to install Kubuntu 64 then maybe enable
the Ubuntu Studio 64 repositories in order to grab their RT kernel and
get it working? From there, I would compile the music apps (and some of
the libs) that I want myself, so I can stay nice and up to date, a
complaint I've brought up in the past.
Possible? Would I be biting off more than is worth chewing?
* AMD64 X2 6000+ (3.1ghz)
* 2GB DDR2-800 RAM
* NVidia NForce chipset
Thanks!
Regards,
Darren Landrum
Just run whatever distro you want and then grab the source for the RT
kernel. I run Gentoo but never run Gentoo kernels. I'm fortunate that
the Gentoo pro-audio overlay means I don't have to go find the
rt-source code myself. Portage will download it, but I still have to
build it.
AFAIK it makes almost no difference what distro you run as long as
it's recent. You'll build the kernel using your installed tools and
you'll likely get good results.
If you're not experienced with building and installing kernels then be
careful, but do NOT be scared. It's pretty easy and it will be a good
training experience.
Cheers,
Mark
4:30 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
Just run whatever distro you want and then grab the
source for the RT
kernel. I run Gentoo but never run Gentoo kernels. I'm fortunate that
the Gentoo pro-audio overlay means I don't have to go find the
rt-source code myself. Portage will download it, but I still have to
build it.
AFAIK it makes almost no difference what distro you run as long as
it's recent. You'll build the kernel using your installed tools and
you'll likely get good results.
If you're not experienced with building and installing kernels then be
careful, but do NOT be scared. It's pretty easy and it will be a good
training experience.
Great! Thanks, Mark (and Cory, who emailed me off-list). :-)
The only issue is apparently an NVidia binary driver bug when using
KDE's nicer window effects, but other than that, I think I'll give this
a shot. Thanks again!
Regards,
Darren Landrum
4:43 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Darren Landrum
<darren.landrum(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
Darren,
ALL closed source video drivers are NOT supported on the RT kernel.
That's not to say they won't work but rather that if you run into
trouble with the kernel you are on your own.
I would STRONGLY suggest building your kernel at least with support
for the best open source driver you can find for your card and then do
a little testing with that. There aren't too many reasons to run the
closed source video drivers for audio work but I don't know what else
you do with the machine so I cannot say. I do run some closed source
drivers here on a couple of Myth frontend machines as the ATI driver
supports using the S-Video output where as the open source version
doesn't, so there are reasons to do it. Maybe your graphics adapter is
very, very new and there's no open source driver yet? If so you're
stuck, at least for now.
Anyway, get the code, learn to build it and boot it. If you run
into problems just ask and you'll get answers or ideas.
Cheers,
Mark
Just run whatever distro you want and then grab the source for the RT
kernel. I run Gentoo but never run Gentoo kernels. I'm fortunate that
the Gentoo pro-audio overlay means I don't have to go find the
rt-source code myself. Portage will download it, but I still have to
build it.
AFAIK it makes almost no difference what distro you run as long as
it's recent. You'll build the kernel using your installed tools and
you'll likely get good results.
If you're not experienced with building and installing kernels then be
careful, but do NOT be scared. It's pretty easy and it will be a good
training experience.
Great! Thanks, Mark (and Cory, who emailed me off-list). :-)
The only issue is apparently an NVidia binary driver bug when using KDE's
nicer window effects, but other than that, I think I'll give this a shot.
Thanks again!
Regards,
Darren Landrum
4:55 p.m.
"I'd rather run Kubuntu rather then Ubuntu Studio 64 for my system."
Why not run studio and install kubuntu-desktop packages? Same thing, right?
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14 Sep
14 Sep
1:46 p.m.
Christopher Stamper wrote:
Why not run studio and install kubuntu-desktop
packages? Same thing, right?
--
Christopher Stamper
Well, I wanted to reshuffle around my various partitions and do a big
data clean-up anyway. That meant reinstalling Linux no matter which
flavor I chose.
I'm still in the middle of the Big Data Cleanup of 2008, but I do have
Kubuntu working beautifully with the RT kernel and the backports
repository. I'm still trying to figure out how to get Plasma and KDE
theming to work, but that's a lower priority at the moment.
From here on out, I'm compiling my music apps myself so I can keep up
with the most current versions. Combining that with using the
repositories for (most) libraries should allow me the
cutting-but-not-too-cutting-edge system that I want.
I'll let you all know if my plan works.
Regards,
Darren Landrum
5:40 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Cory K. <coryisatm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
No, unfortunately you didn't read what I said. I didn't say they
wouldn't work. I said they are not supported. Please read what you
quoted directly above.
The closed source drivers may work very well on the RT kernel. I've
used them at times. However if you run into a problem the closed
source drivers are absoluteley NOT support by Ingo/Steven/Thomas and
they won't take any bug reports or work on any problems if the kernel
is tainted by the closed source drivers.
Cheers,
Mark
Darren,
ALL closed source video drivers are NOT supported on the RT kernel.
NOT true. ;) nVidia/ATI drivers in Ubuntu repo work just fine with -rt.
-Cory K. 
6:09 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Cory K.
<coryisatm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*MANY* new users not familiar with -rt will read "not supported" as I
can't use the closed drivers with -rt. I've seen it many, many, many
times on my support ML already.
Your explanation now, after my reply, would have been a better initial post.
I would bet hard cash users of a -rt distro go to that bug tracker 1st,
and not to Ingo. I know. I receive the Ubuntu Studio bugs. ;)
-Cory K.
Mark Knecht wrote:
No, unfortunately you didn't read what I said. I didn't say they
wouldn't work. I said they are not supported. Please read what you
quoted directly above.
The closed source drivers may work very well on the RT kernel. I've
used them at times. However if you run into a problem the closed
source drivers are absoluteley NOT support by Ingo/Steven/Thomas and
they won't take any bug reports or work on any problems if the kernel
is tainted by the closed source drivers.
Cheers,
Mark
Darren,
ALL closed source video drivers are NOT supported on the RT kernel.
NOT true. ;) nVidia/ATI drivers in Ubuntu repo work just fine with -rt.
-Cory K.
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