7 Dec
2005
7 Dec
'05
3:18 p.m.
How does one read the MCM number and any other non-audio data
from a music CD? I want to build a MP3 server for our house and
definitely do not want to manually enter data from the art work in the
CD box.
It is my understanding that one can retrieve the MCM catalog
number and match it against a data base to turn that in to an album
name and song titles. Is this correct?
I also want to do this without any X applications. The
computer is good enough for command-line shells, etc, but is only a
400-meg Pentium with 65 megs of RAM.
I am home-brewing this server which will probably end up being
a collection of shell scripts and C applications written by me but I
realized that I wasn't sure how to let the CD's own data speak for
themselves.
While ripping tracks using cdparanoia, I frequently see a
short track numbered 0 which is not a song but appears to have some
sort of binary data. CD's I burn or some commercial CD's do not have
this special track. What is it?
Thanks for any answers or suggestions. This is one of those
times when Google searches turn up a boatload of all the wrong
information, probably because I didn't use the right search terms, but
nonetheless, I haven't found what I was looking for yet.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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7 Dec
7 Dec
3:45 p.m.
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:18 -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
How does one read the MCM number and any other
non-audio data
from a music CD? I want to build a MP3 server for our house and
definitely do not want to manually enter data from the art work in the
CD box.
It is my understanding that one can retrieve the MCM catalog
number and match it against a data base to turn that in to an album
name and song titles. Is this correct?
Yes it's called CDDB and any decent music player should have built in
support.
XMMS does talk to the CDDB right? If not we are a lot further behind
than I thought...
Lee
4:22 p.m.
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 14:46 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:18 -0600, Martin McCormick
wrote:
but here is the greatest thing of all:
freedb.org (and probably cddb too) do *not* use the MCM number because
there are duplicates. instead, it does the absolutely *brilliant* thing
of creating an ID for the CD based on the length and number of tracks,
which is almost guaranteed to be unique.
How does one read the MCM number and any other
non-audio data
from a music CD? I want to build a MP3 server for our house and
definitely do not want to manually enter data from the art work in the
CD box.
It is my understanding that one can retrieve the MCM catalog
number and match it against a data base to turn that in to an album
name and song titles. Is this correct?
Yes it's called CDDB and any decent music player should have built in
support.
XMMS does talk to the CDDB right? If not we are a lot further behind
than I thought... 
12 Dec
12 Dec
6:07 p.m.
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 20:24, Paul Davis was like:
> XMMS does talk to the CDDB right? If not we are
a lot further behind
> than I thought...
Erm, I'm not sure that it does directly ...
I figure I must have some old version as it still uses gtk+-1.2 ;p
but here is the greatest thing of all:
freedb.org (and probably cddb too) do *not* use the MCM number because
there are duplicates. instead, it does the absolutely *brilliant* thing
of creating an ID for the CD based on the length and number of tracks,
which is almost guaranteed to be unique.
I guessed that due to the number of times it's got it wrong, amusingly.
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
6:28 p.m.
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 22:07 +0000, tim hall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 20:24, Paul Davis was
like:
AFAIK no one ever ported xmms to GTK 2.x. The project seems dead.
Maybe the code was such a mess that it's easier to write a new player.
Lee
> XMMS does talk to the CDDB right? If not we
are a lot further behind
> than I thought...
Erm, I'm not sure that it does directly ...
I figure I must have some old version as it still uses gtk+-1.2 ;p
8 Dec
8 Dec
6:22 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Music CD Data Base
Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com>om>, on Wed Dec 07, 2005 [02:46:32 PM] said:
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 13:18 -0600, Martin McCormick
wrote:
Hi;
Sure it does. The fancier ones of the breed will even download
cover art for you. (eg. Amarok) Last week, the LWN 'grumpy editor'
series was about music managers:
http://lwn.net/Articles/161233/
(scroll down quite a bit)
The comments mentioned something that might be interesting
for mp3 serving:
http://www.musicpd.org/
Its a networkable music playing daemon that has a dozen
or so client front ends, web, curses, command line, etc.
I see that the OP was able to get some CDDB lookups, but
since Im here, Ill mention the util 'cd-discid', and 'cddb-tool'
which is part of the 'abcde' package, a command line tool for
ripping and encoding.
Paul
set(a)pobox.com
How does one read the MCM number and any other
non-audio data
from a music CD? I want to build a MP3 server for our house and
definitely do not want to manually enter data from the art work in the
CD box.
It is my understanding that one can retrieve the MCM catalog
number and match it against a data base to turn that in to an album
name and song titles. Is this correct?
Yes it's called CDDB and any decent music player should have built in
support.
XMMS does talk to the CDDB right? If not we are a lot further behind
than I thought...
Lee 
7 Dec
7 Dec
5:57 p.m.
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:18:38PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
I also want to do this without any X applications.
The
computer is good enough for command-line shells, etc, but is only a
400-meg Pentium with 65 megs of RAM.
Oh man! What happened?! I remember drooling over a machine that
fast, thinking about all the X apps I could run...
::-)
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
9 Dec
9 Dec
11:15 p.m.
Martin McCormick wrote:
How does one read the MCM number and any other
non-audio data
from a music CD? I want to build a MP3 server for our house and
definitely do not want to manually enter data from the art work in the
CD box.
...
I am home-brewing this server which will probably end
up being
a collection of shell scripts and C applications written by me but I
realized that I wasn't sure how to let the CD's own data speak for
themselves.
I see you've got lots of answers on how to rip and get the cd info out
of the online databases. For the mp3 server part you might want to look
at slimserver. http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_features.html
It's designed for the slim devices hardware players (which are
excellent) but the server itself is open source and works with any
streaming software player as well. Works great on Linux.
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