2 Aug
2005
2 Aug
'05
2:17 p.m.
From: tim hall <tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk>
WADR Juhana, I think you're being silly.
Every different synth has its great voices, unique tones and also its
weaknesses, hardware or software.
Many of you miss the point. I use bricks:
1. Why the original poster and me would rather use well-known
commercial synths than open source synths?
2. Why demos of commercial synths do sound well better than
anything I have heard made with open source synths?
Sure every commercial synth sounds different, but we need to
have an open source synth at least in the same top class.
-*-
I would rather try to solve the case (2) first as it helps to
solve the case (1):
(A) Someone who makes great songs with commercial synths should
replace the synth track with a track made with an open source synths.
For the demo purposes only.
(B) Someone could create a MIDI file which plays great with
commercial synths. The output should be recorded for us.
Then we try to create the same with open source synths, possibly
improving the software at the same time.
Who of you can do (A)?
Who of you can do (B)?
Juhana
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2 Aug
2 Aug
2:40 p.m.
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:17:55 +0300
Juhana Sadeharju <kouhia(a)nic.funet.fi> wrote:
Heh, tell that to the guys using i.e. SuperCollider3, Pd, etc.. There's
quite a few commercial acts that use this stuff (anyone remember i.e.
cylob's "rewind"?). I must admit though, that cylob uses the Mac version
of SC which gives him all those nice GUI nifties not available on linux,
but who knows what the future brings.
If the music of most of the people that use open source doesn't suit
you, well that's your problem. :)
And yeah, if you like the commercial synths better than the open source
ones, you have basically two choices:
- use the commercial ones and be happy
- help the open source community in producing something that fits your
needs (maybe even pay somebody to improve an existing open source app to
do something you need. This idea is not so strange to people using
commercial software i'd reckon)
Whining is not in above list ;) Constructive criticism is always
appreciated.
Ah and btw: i find both (A) and (B) pointless. Why would anyone waste
his time doing this?
Flo
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From: tim hall
<tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk>
WADR Juhana, I think you're being silly.
Every different synth has its great voices, unique tones and also its
weaknesses, hardware or software.
Many of you miss the point. I use bricks:
1. Why the original poster and me would rather use well-known
commercial synths than open source synths?
2. Why demos of commercial synths do sound well better than
anything I have heard made with open source synths? 
7:46 p.m.
Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
i can see where yr coming from .... i've often thought of doing (A) with
my songs. the problem isn't really that the open-source synths don't
sound any good, but that they're a little obtuse in *how* to get good
sounds ... unfortunately, inspiration don't usually hang around for a
learning curve to apply :(
however, the only commercial synth i really use - that i *must* use, cos
it just fuckin rocks - is B4 from Native Instruments. i'm sure i could
probly get similar results from Aeolus, but man - i haven't even been
able to get a sound from it yet.
as far as open-source synths go, you can't go past the spectacular
ZynAddSubFX.
shayne
From: tim hall
<tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk>
WADR Juhana, I think you're being silly.
Every different synth has its great voices, unique tones and also its
weaknesses, hardware or software.
Many of you miss the point. I use bricks:
1. Why the original poster and me would rather use well-known
commercial synths than open source synths?
2. Why demos of commercial synths do sound well better than
anything I have heard made with open source synths?
Sure every commercial synth sounds different, but we need to
have an open source synth at least in the same top class.
-*-
I would rather try to solve the case (2) first as it helps to
solve the case (1):
(A) Someone who makes great songs with commercial synths should
replace the synth track with a track made with an open source synths.
For the demo purposes only.
(B) Someone could create a MIDI file which plays great with
commercial synths. The output should be recorded for us.
Then we try to create the same with open source synths, possibly
improving the software at the same time.
Who of you can do (A)?
Who of you can do (B)? 
18 Aug
18 Aug
11 a.m.
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 17:17, Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
OK, I understand you now. Do you not rate ZynAddSubFX? At the moment I'm using
a combination of soundfonts (edited with swami) Hydrogen drumkits, a few
voices from my old external D10 and, of course ZynAddSubFX. I understand that
there's room for improvement, if someone turns up with an analogue oscillator
machine, I'm going to record that sound as none of the digital synths can do
that. I'm with you on the 'let's focus on making Linux apps as good as they
can be' front.
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
From: tim hall
<tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk>
WADR Juhana, I think you're being silly.
Every different synth has its great voices, unique tones and also its
weaknesses, hardware or software.
Many of you miss the point. I use bricks:
1. Why the original poster and me would rather use well-known
commercial synths than open source synths?
2. Why demos of commercial synths do sound well better than
anything I have heard made with open source synths?
Sure every commercial synth sounds different, but we need to
have an open source synth at least in the same top class.
-*-
I would rather try to solve the case (2) first as it helps to
solve the case (1):
(A) Someone who makes great songs with commercial synths should
replace the synth track with a track made with an open source synths.
For the demo purposes only.
(B) Someone could create a MIDI file which plays great with
commercial synths. The output should be recorded for us.
Then we try to create the same with open source synths, possibly
improving the software at the same time.
Who of you can do (A)?
Who of you can do (B)?
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