1 Sep
2005
1 Sep
'05
3:20 p.m.
Lee,
I built a new kernel 2.6.11 for this system (using the debian
kernel-package tool). I was under the impression that 2.6 kernel source
included the ALSA by default.
When I try to ./configure the latest ALSA it says that my kernel as the
ALSA built-in.
Can you clarify this for me? If my kernel has ALSA built-in, how can I
be sure that I am building it with the latest ALSA code as well?
aloha,
dave
On 9/1/05, Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 10:05 -0600, Dave Price wrote:
Any ideas what I should adjust to get a mixer/volume
control
to do
anything meaningful?
Get a newer ALSA (at least 1.0.9b).
Lee
1 Sep
1 Sep
3:38 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 11:20 -0600, Dave Price wrote:
Lee,
I built a new kernel 2.6.11 for this system (using the debian
kernel-package tool). I was under the impression that 2.6 kernel source
included the ALSA by default.
When I try to ./configure the latest ALSA it says that my kernel as the
ALSA built-in.
Can you clarify this for me? If my kernel has ALSA built-in, how can I
be sure that I am building it with the latest ALSA code as well?
The version of ALSA in the kernel trails the current ALSA version by
about one major ALSA release (eg 1.0.8 -> 1.0.9). The current kernel is
2.6.13 - 2.6.11 is 6-9 months old. So it comes with an ALSA that's way
too old to have the "softvol" feature that you need.
The easiest fix is to just upgrade to kernel 2.6.13. You also need to
make sure to upgrade all other alsa-* packages to at least 1.0.9.
The "debian way" (which as you know by now is usually the right way but
NEVER the easiest way) is to install the ALSA source packages and use
the Debian kernel build system to compile these modules separately, then
install them with the kernel. Check the Debian docs.
Lee
10:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 01:38:28PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
The version of ALSA in the kernel trails the current
ALSA version by
about one major ALSA release (eg 1.0.8 -> 1.0.9). The current kernel is
2.6.13 - 2.6.11 is 6-9 months old. So it comes with an ALSA that's way
too old to have the "softvol" feature that you need.
The easiest fix is to just upgrade to kernel 2.6.13. You also need to
make sure to upgrade all other alsa-* packages to at least 1.0.9.
The "debian way" (which as you know by now is usually the right way but
NEVER the easiest way) is to install the ALSA source packages and use
the Debian kernel build system to compile these modules separately, then
install them with the kernel. Check the Debian docs.
I recall you said once that installing 2.6.13 is a "terribly bad idea"
if you want a stable machine. You also mentioned that 2.6.12 was quite
stable.
Do you now recommend 2.6.13 or 2.6.12? What is the "debian way" to
install 2.6.13? Is there a package?
BTW, alsa-source 1.0.9b compiles and works fine for linux 2.6.11.
Ryan
11:50 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 10:16 +1000, Ryan Heise wrote:
I recall you said once that installing 2.6.13 is a
"terribly bad idea"
if you want a stable machine. You also mentioned that 2.6.12 was quite
stable.
That was in reference to 2.6.13 + the -rt patches, which are highly
experimental, not 2.6.13 vanilla.
Do you now recommend 2.6.13 or 2.6.12? What is the
"debian way" to
install 2.6.13? Is there a package?
Same way you installed 2.6.11 just use the 2.6.13 package. If there's
no debian kernel source package for 2.6.13 yet then just install it the
old fashioned way - build it then and make install.
Lee
2 Sep
2 Sep
1:17 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:50:39PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 10:16 +1000, Ryan Heise wrote:
Or, configure it,
make-kpkg kernel_image
dpkg -i <kernel_image>.deb
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I recall you said once that installing 2.6.13 is
a "terribly bad idea"
if you want a stable machine. You also mentioned that 2.6.12 was quite
stable.
That was in reference to 2.6.13 + the -rt patches, which are highly
experimental, not 2.6.13 vanilla.
Do you now recommend 2.6.13 or 2.6.12? What is
the "debian way" to
install 2.6.13? Is there a package?
Same way you installed 2.6.11 just use the
2.6.13 package. If there's
no debian kernel source package for 2.6.13 yet then just install it the
old fashioned way - build it then and make install.
8:08 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 11:17 -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
Or, configure it,
make-kpkg kernel_image
dpkg -i <kernel_image>.deb
How would you do the same with a separate ALSA source tree?
I did this once but don't remember how.
Lee
8:22 p.m.
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On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:08:12PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 11:17 -0400, Eric Dantan
Rzewnicki wrote:
I think you build a separate modules.deb against the kernel tree ...
but, I'm not exactly sure as I haven't had a need so far.
There are modules and modules_image targets for make-kpkg, but again,
no experience here actually using them.
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Or, configure it,
make-kpkg kernel_image
dpkg -i <kernel_image>.deb
How would you do the same with a separate ALSA
source tree?
I did this once but don't remember how. 
3 Sep
3 Sep
9:47 a.m.
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fre, 02,.09.2005 kl. 18.22 -0400, skrev Eric Dantan Rzewnicki:
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:08:12PM -0400, Lee Revell
wrote:
sudo apt-get install alsa-source
(You probably need the package from Unstable)
cd /usr/src
sudo tar xvzf alsa-source.tar.gz
cd /lib/modules/2.6.12/build/
sudo make-kpkg modules_image
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Frode Haugsgjerd
Norway
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 11:17 -0400, Eric Dantan
Rzewnicki wrote:
I think you build a separate modules.deb against the kernel tree ...
but, I'm not exactly sure as I haven't had a need so far.
There are modules and modules_image targets for make-kpkg, but again,
no experience here actually using them. Or, configure it,
make-kpkg kernel_image
dpkg -i <kernel_image>.deb
How would you do the same with a separate ALSA
source tree?
I did this once but don't remember how.
1 Sep
1 Sep
3:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] SIS (SI7012) sound but limited mixer
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 11:20 -0600, Dave Price wrote:
When I try to ./configure the latest ALSA it says that
my kernel as
the ALSA built-in.
This is fine. "make install" will just install the new ALSA modules
over the previous ones. Then just shut down all sound apps, rmmod the
old ALSA modules, and modprobe the new ones.
The ALSA build system is pretty smart - it detects the kernel version
you are building against and patches itself to build with that kernel.
Lee
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