30 Jun
2009
30 Jun
'09
10:53 p.m.
Hello,
I had the same worries that you have when I was going to buy an interface
for my linux audio computer, so I may help you.
Let me tell you that the 610 is meant to solve all the problems of the 410
in which it's based and which is mostly incompatible with any system,
including Windows and Mac. And since M-Audio wont release give support for
linux, I would take a chance with that interface.
Firewire interfaces are somewhat difficult to put to work in Linux, but if
you take a look in ffado.rog you'll notice there are some that look very
good that have similar characteristics and of the M-Audio 610:
ECHO Audio Fire 4
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire4/index.php
Edirol FA-66
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=731&Paren…
Edirol FA-101
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=702&Paren…
Among others. The rest you can find here:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=&filter1=&…
Check Focusrite which they have send to ffado directly so they can test them
for compatibility and also is the company that makes pre-amps for Digidesign
of Pro-tools.
I never tried this interfaces, but I'm sure there are several users that can
tell you about them in the list.
On the other hand, I decided to buy the M-Audio Fast Track Pro an USB
interface that worked out of the box in linux. In my little knowledge, I've
heard that USB audio interfaces work better on linux.
Anything else I can help you just write me.
Saludos from Colombia.
Nicanor García O.
1 Jul
1 Jul
12:30 a.m.
New subject: M-Audio ProFire 610
whatever the device is, firewire or usb, make sure you're not going to have
to do a firmware download that is not well documented. unless of course you
are masochistic, then by all means, brick it!
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Nicanor Garcia <ngocello(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I had the same worries that you have when I was going to buy an interface
for my linux audio computer, so I may help you.
Let me tell you that the 610 is meant to solve all the problems of the 410
in which it's based and which is mostly incompatible with any system,
including Windows and Mac. And since M-Audio wont release give support for
linux, I would take a chance with that interface.
Firewire interfaces are somewhat difficult to put to work in Linux, but if
you take a look in ffado.rog you'll notice there are some that look very
good that have similar characteristics and of the M-Audio 610:
ECHO Audio Fire 4
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire4/index.php
Edirol FA-66
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=731&Paren…
Edirol FA-101
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=702&Paren…
Among others. The rest you can find here:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=&filter1=&…
Check Focusrite which they have send to ffado directly so they can test
them for compatibility and also is the company that makes pre-amps for
Digidesign of Pro-tools.
I never tried this interfaces, but I'm sure there are several users that
can tell you about them in the list.
On the other hand, I decided to buy the M-Audio Fast Track Pro an USB
interface that worked out of the box in linux. In my little knowledge, I've
heard that USB audio interfaces work better on linux.
Anything else I can help you just write me.
Saludos from Colombia.
Nicanor García O.
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5:20 a.m.
New subject: M-Audio ProFire 610
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 04:53, Nicanor Garcia <ngocello(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I had the same worries that you have when I was going to buy an interface
for my linux audio computer, so I may help you.
Let me tell you that the 610 is meant to solve all the problems of the 410
in which it's based and which is mostly incompatible with any system,
including Windows and Mac. And since M-Audio wont release give support for
linux, I would take a chance with that interface.
Firewire interfaces are somewhat difficult to put to work in Linux, but if
you take a look in ffado.rog you'll notice there are some that look very
good that have similar characteristics and of the M-Audio 610:
ECHO Audio Fire 4
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire4/index.php
Edirol FA-66
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=731&Paren…
Edirol FA-101
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=702&Paren…
Among others. The rest you can find here:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=&filter1=&…
Check Focusrite which they have send to ffado directly so they can test
them for compatibility and also is the company that makes pre-amps for
Digidesign of Pro-tools.
I never tried this interfaces, but I'm sure there are several users that
can tell you about them in the list.
On the other hand, I decided to buy the M-Audio Fast Track Pro an USB
interface that worked out of the box in linux. In my little knowledge, I've
heard that USB audio interfaces work better on linux.
Anything else I can help you just write me.
Saludos from Colombia.
Nicanor García O.
Thanks Nicanor for your input.
Indeed, i would like also something working out of the box with Linux. As i
prefer take my time to learn how to make music under Linux rather to get
crazy getting my audio interface running.
My first choose was to get a portable audio interface, so that i can easily
move it around and if necessary using it on different boxes. As firewire is
by design quicker than USB2, i thought it's the best choose.
I did some search on the Roland product, and the FA-101 looks very very
nice. In addition it's made in Japan, which is for me a gage of quality. But
it's of course quick expensive...
In another hand, i wonder if a PCI card like the M-Audio Delta 1010LT, won't
be a better choose for starting ...
What do you think?
Thank you all for your guidance :-)
2 Jul
2 Jul
10:55 p.m.
New subject: M-Audio ProFire 610
Hello,
Though I haven't worked with the Delta 1010LT, all I know is that is very
compatible with linux.
But you must first think if it's what you really need.
If you are an solo artist, making music on your own (maybe electronic),
recording only one or two tracks at a time, the Delta 1010LT with it's 10
ins and outs is something you wont need, but something you will need if you
want to do a semi-pro studio for recording other artists and bands.
If you may need to use your interface in different computers an USB is for
you as it works out of the box in almost any computer, at least the M-Audio
Fast Track Pro I use does. Also, you can get linux audio to work on an old
laptop or a not so old netbook that doesn't have firewire, but an USB
interface would do.
I was today in a conference about M-audio's products (by the way, expect
none support with Linux from them!) and they were talking about how to build
a decent home studio, and the first thing you have to think about is, what
are you going to do.
Also they mentioned what differences the different kinds of interfaces (USB,
Firewire, PCI) and it's all about the transfer rate. Being USB 1.1 being the
slower, the comes Firewire, USB 2.0, Firewire 800 and PCI being the fastest.
And so, the higher the transfer rate the higher the numbers of channels a
interface can handle with a decent cuality.
Correct me if I'm wrong about this data.
Well, enough of my senseless chat, if anything else I can help you, just
tell me.
Cheers.
Thanks Nicanor for your input.
Indeed, i would like also something working out of the box with Linux. As i
prefer take my time to learn how to make music under Linux rather to get
crazy getting my audio interface running.
My first choose was to get a portable audio interface, so that i can easily
move it around and if necessary using it on different boxes. As firewire is
by design quicker than USB2, i thought it's the best choose.
I did some search on the Roland product, and the FA-101 looks very very
nice. In addition it's made in Japan, which is for me a gage of quality. But
it's of course quick expensive...
In another hand, i wonder if a PCI card like the M-Audio Delta 1010LT,
won't be a better choose for starting ...
What do you think?
Thank you all for your guidance :-)
3 Jul
3 Jul
5:09 a.m.
New subject: M-Audio ProFire 610
On Fri 2009-07-03, Nicanor Garcia wrote:
I was today in a conference about M-audio's
products (by the way,
expect none support with Linux from them!) and they were ...
That's a bit sad - I've been a bit fond of their gear in the past
(I have a Revolution PCI card and an Axiom keyboard/controller).
I bought the Revolution after trying to get a new SoundBlaster
card to work, and only then discovering that SB were now pretty
much anti-Linux support (after being *the* sound card for Linux
users to buy for close to a decade). Very sad. Very weird.
Also they mentioned what differences the different
kinds of
interfaces (USB, Firewire, PCI) and it's all about the transfer rate.
Yeah - I'm not sure why Firewire is thought to be better than USB.
As you observe, USB means you can pick up the kit and plug it
into effectively any machine on the planet. Apple still charge
each OEM for the right to put a Firewire plug in their computer,
and given USB is roughly the same speed[1] most manufacturers
and most consumers are happy to move to / stay with USB.
Jedd.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral
5:45 a.m.
New subject: M-Audio ProFire 610
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:09 AM, jedd<jedd(a)progsoc.org> wrote:
On Fri 2009-07-03, Nicanor Garcia wrote:
USB devices that work with Linux are much slower than firewire, there
is no industry standard for USB 2 audio devices, so only USB 1.1
devices work with Linux (unless this has changed recently).
I was today in a conference about M-audio's
products (by the way,
expect none support with Linux from them!) and they were ...
That's a bit sad - I've been a bit fond of their gear in the past
(I have a Revolution PCI card and an Axiom keyboard/controller).
I bought the Revolution after trying to get a new SoundBlaster
card to work, and only then discovering that SB were now pretty
much anti-Linux support (after being *the* sound card for Linux
users to buy for close to a decade). Very sad. Very weird.
Also they mentioned what differences the
different kinds of
interfaces (USB, Firewire, PCI) and it's all about the transfer rate.
Yeah - I'm not sure why Firewire is thought to be better than USB.
As you observe, USB means you can pick up the kit and plug it
into effectively any machine on the planet. Apple still charge
each OEM for the right to put a Firewire plug in their computer,
and given USB is roughly the same speed[1] most manufacturers
and most consumers are happy to move to / stay with USB.
Jedd.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral
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