18 Oct
2005
18 Oct
'05
11:42 p.m.
Hi folks,
My motherboard failed recently. I'm looking at buying a new system,
and AMD64 looks sexy; and it's been around for long enough now that
I'd naively think the software situation would be fairly stable.
Is it? I've done some googling through the archives of this list,
and early in the year people were suggesting that a fair number of
apps still had trouble in 64-bit. Is this still the case? I use
Rosegarden, Specimen, Ardour and Audacity for the most part. Are
people using these apps OK on AMD64 platforms?
-c
P.S. For that matter, any advice on specific hardware (e.g. mobos
to look at/stay away from, in your experience) would be greatly
appreciated.
19 Oct
19 Oct
12:45 a.m.
On 10/18/05, cmetzler(a)speakeasy.net <cmetzler(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
Hi folks,
My motherboard failed recently. I'm looking at buying a new system,
and AMD64 looks sexy; and it's been around for long enough now that
I'd naively think the software situation would be fairly stable.
Is it? I've done some googling through the archives of this list,
and early in the year people were suggesting that a fair number of
apps still had trouble in 64-bit. Is this still the case? I use
Rosegarden, Specimen, Ardour and Audacity for the most part. Are
people using these apps OK on AMD64 platforms?
-c
P.S. For that matter, any advice on specific hardware (e.g. mobos
to look at/stay away from, in your experience) would be greatly
appreciated.
Sorry about the problems with your systems.
OK, so I've been messing with an AMD64 for maybe 5-6 weeks, probably
half time. It's hard for me to really recommend it yet, but the
results are recently pretty positive as far as I've taken them, which
isn't very far: Note that I didn't start to get a really good kernel
before last week.
1) I'm using an HDSP 9652. With the very newest kernels, in my case
2.6.14-rc4-rt7 - I'm running at 64/2 with no real xruns for two days
now. (By real I mean xruns not created by doing things you would never
do in a session, such as pulling 1394 cables, adding new devices,
etc.) That siad my wokload has been very light and I've done almost no
recording so it's pretty untested as of yet.
2) I've used almost no plugins, which is typical for me, so I cannot
say that any of that works at all.
3) A lot of multimedia web stuff doesn't work. I have no idea if
that's important to you. If you need it you can get away with
something like Firefox-bin and much of it works. That's not 64-bit
though. (Doesn't matter to me...)
4) The memory footprint of pretty much everything is larger so if you
were used to 512MB consider 768MB or 1GB for equivalent operation.
5) Basic 1394 support is working pretty well but I don't know about
FreeBob. I see know reason why it shouldn't work.
6) My main work is using Ardour and Aqualung. Beyond that it's just
touch and go with other apps.
As for distro I'm doing this on Gentoo-AMD64-2005.1.
Fernando is working on similar kernels for the Planet, however he and
I seem to be running into 100% different problems. To me that's a
little scary as far as recommending anything, but it may be workload
based...who knows? Obviously his job is much larger and far harder
than mine.
My motherboard is an Asus A8N-E. I used external 1394 audio drives,
both 1394a and 1394b, both running from the same OHCI controller. I
have a 250GB internal SATA drive of which I'm using only about 10GB so
far...
Hoep this helps, or at least was interesting. ;-)
Cheers,
Mark
1:57 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Status of AMD64 in LAU world? Forced system replacement.
On 10/19/05, Mark Knecht <markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry about the problems with your systems.
OK, so I've been messing with an AMD64 for maybe 5-6 weeks, probably
half time. It's hard for me to really recommend it yet, but the
results are recently pretty positive as far as I've taken them, which
isn't very far: Note that I didn't start to get a really good kernel
before last week.
1) I'm using an HDSP 9652. With the very newest kernels, in my case
2.6.14-rc4-rt7 - I'm running at 64/2 with no real xruns for two days
now. (By real I mean xruns not created by doing things you would never
do in a session, such as pulling 1394 cables, adding new devices,
etc.) That siad my wokload has been very light and I've done almost no
recording so it's pretty untested as of yet.
2) I've used almost no plugins, which is typical for me, so I cannot
say that any of that works at all.
3) A lot of multimedia web stuff doesn't work. I have no idea if
that's important to you. If you need it you can get away with
something like Firefox-bin and much of it works. That's not 64-bit
though. (Doesn't matter to me...)
4) The memory footprint of pretty much everything is larger so if you
were used to 512MB consider 768MB or 1GB for equivalent operation.
5) Basic 1394 support is working pretty well but I don't know about
FreeBob. I see know reason why it shouldn't work.
6) My main work is using Ardour and Aqualung. Beyond that it's just
touch and go with other apps.
As for distro I'm doing this on Gentoo-AMD64-2005.1.
Fernando is working on similar kernels for the Planet, however he and
I seem to be running into 100% different problems. To me that's a
little scary as far as recommending anything, but it may be workload
based...who knows? Obviously his job is much larger and far harder
than mine.
My motherboard is an Asus A8N-E. I used external 1394 audio drives,
both 1394a and 1394b, both running from the same OHCI controller. I
have a 250GB internal SATA drive of which I'm using only about 10GB so
far...
Hoep this helps, or at least was interesting. ;-)
Cheers,
Mark
I'm running amd64 here too. MSI xpress 200 based motherboard, the one
with the ati chipset. Seems to work well for me so far. Though you'll
need a 32 bit build of stuff like mplayer if you want to use win32
codecs. Also stuff like wine/cedega of course need to be 32 bit as
well. All round so far i really haven't had much time to
customise/play with it, as i've been very busy over the last few
months with my thesis, but the system all round seems to be very good.
I wouldn't recommend the xpress 200 chipset under linux for anything
other than 2-d graphics though. 3-d performance is terrible. Luckly
i've got a nvidia card in it now. ;-) Though for 2-d only stuff i'd
think about something with open source drivers. I'd assume that would
be better for audio work. The system really copes well with a huge
amount of plugins/synths which is really nice, though i had a p3 650
before so it's a bit of a change anyway!
Loki
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