On 06/24/2014 11:03 AM, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Might be, never used either before, actually I thought they were two names for the same thing... Hmmm atte@vestbjerg:~$ lsmod | grep acpip atte@vestbjerg:~$ sudo modprobe acpiphp [sudo] password for atte: atte@vestbjerg:~$ lsmod | grep acpip atte@vestbjerg:~$ sudo modprobe acpiphp_ibm ERROR: could not insert 'acpiphp_ibm': No such device atte@vestbjerg:~$ Strange thing (but what do I know), "sudo modprobe acpiphp<tab>" completes to "sudo modprobe acpiphp_ibm", suggesting that there's no acpiphp available on the system, still I get no error when loading it *and* it's not showing in lsmod after attempted load. Here's what dmesg have to say: atte@vestbjerg:~$ dmesg | tail -n 2 [ 45.626648] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Tx aggregation enabled on ra = a0:21:b7:d7:fa:15 tid = 0 [ 90.387533] acpiphp_ibm: ibm_acpiphp_init: acpi_walk_namespace failed Reading http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ExpressCard_slot + your reply, makes me thing I made the mistake of buying a pcmcia, whereas I in fact should have bought an expresscard/54. -- Atte http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk

There were problems with ExpressCard hotplug last I checked. Getting the kernel to recognize a card when it's plugged in is not possible all the time. Try booting with the card already plugged in and see if it's recognized then. Thanks, Bill Gribble

Atte wrote: This is CardBus, not ExpressCard. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressCard#Form_factors>. You need a different card. Regards, Clemens

On 06/25/2014 02:09 PM, Atte wrote: Ok, now I'm back with a different card (expresscard). <card unplugged> atte@vestbjerg:~$ lspci > without <plugging card in> atte@vestbjerg:~$ lspci > with atte@vestbjerg:~$ diff with* 18d17 < 05:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6315 Series Firewire Controller (rev 01) dmesg gives this when pluggin in [ 696.616000] pci 0000:05:00.0: [1106:3403] type 0 class 0x000c00 [ 696.616054] pci 0000:05:00.0: reg 10: [mem 0x00000000-0x000007ff 64bit] [ 696.616080] pci 0000:05:00.0: reg 18: [io 0x0000-0x00ff] [ 696.616266] pci 0000:05:00.0: supports D2 [ 696.616271] pci 0000:05:00.0: PME# supported from D2 D3hot D3cold [ 696.624044] pci 0000:05:00.0: BAR 0: assigned [mem 0xf1c00000-0xf1c007ff 64bit] [ 696.624082] pci 0000:05:00.0: BAR 2: assigned [io 0x4000-0x40ff] [ 696.624136] pci 0000:05:00.0: no hotplug settings from platform [ 696.624429] firewire_ohci 0000:05:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003) [ 696.624461] firewire_ohci 0000:05:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 696.687814] firewire_ohci: Added fw-ohci device 0000:05:00.0, OHCI v1.10, 4 IR + 8 IT contexts, quirks 0x11 [ 697.186506] firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID 0011066600000001, S400 [ 697.186515] firewire_core: phy config: card 5, new root=ffc1, gap_count=5 So some devices get's created: atte@vestbjerg:~$ ls -alh /dev/fw* crw------- 1 root root 252, 0 Jul 2 14:44 /dev/fw0 crw-rw---T+ 1 root video 252, 1 Jul 2 14:44 /dev/fw1 And I'm in the video group atte@vestbjerg:~$ groups atte cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev fuse scanner bluetooth netdev cbnetwork I tried starting jack with all the listed devices + the wildshots "fw:0" and "fw:1", no matter what I get this: jackdmp 1.9.9 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. Copyright 2004-2012 Grame. jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 88 firewire MSG: Starting FFADO backend (libffado 2.999.0-) libffado 2.999.0- built Jun 28 2012 15:59:48 00867212258: Error (ieee1394service.cpp)[ 185] detectNbPorts: Could not get libraw1394 handle. This usually means: a) The device-node /dev/raw1394 doesn't exists because you don't have a (recognized) firewire controller. b) The modules needed aren't loaded. This is not in the scope of ffado but of your distribution, so if you have a firewire controller that should be supported and the modules aren't loaded, file a bug with your distributions bug tracker. c) You don't have permissions to access /dev/raw1394. 'ls -l /dev/raw1394' shows the device-node with its permissions, make sure you belong to the right group and the group is allowed to access the device. firewire ERR: FFADO: Error creating virtual device Cannot attach audio driver And it surely seems the /dev/raw1394 is not created: atte@vestbjerg:~$ ll /dev/ra* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 8 Jul 2 14:32 /dev/random Here's the long outout of lsmod: atte@vestbjerg:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by snd_seq_dummy 12455 0 fuse 56269 3 parport_pc 22036 0 ppdev 12651 0 lp 12797 0 parport 31258 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc rfcomm 32730 10 bnep 17288 2 cpufreq_stats 12762 0 cpufreq_powersave 12422 0 cpufreq_userspace 12520 0 cpufreq_conservative 12987 0 nfsd 173890 2 nfs 270333 1 nfs_acl 12463 2 nfs,nfsd auth_rpcgss 32227 2 nfs,nfsd fscache 31978 1 nfs lockd 61373 2 nfs,nfsd sunrpc 152102 12 lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl,nfs,nfsd loop 21911 0 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 26352 1 snd_hda_codec_conexant 40451 1 joydev 16950 0 uvcvideo 56896 0 videodev 61658 1 uvcvideo media 13692 2 videodev,uvcvideo arc4 12418 2 cdc_ncm 16977 0 usbnet 17703 1 cdc_ncm mii 12595 1 usbnet cdc_acm 17564 0 cdc_wdm 17005 0 btusb 17246 2 bluetooth 107882 23 btusb,bnep,rfcomm evdev 17165 9 battery 12986 0 thinkpad_acpi 47494 0 ac 12552 0 nvram 12887 1 thinkpad_acpi power_supply 13283 2 ac,battery tpm_tis 13150 0 tpm 17566 1 tpm_tis tpm_bios 12836 1 tpm psmouse 59575 0 serio_raw 12769 0 snd_hda_intel 21754 2 snd_hda_codec 63602 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hwdep 12979 1 snd_hda_codec iwlwifi 146808 0 snd_pcm 53415 3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_page_alloc 12867 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel mac80211 175536 1 iwlwifi snd_seq 39514 1 snd_seq_dummy i915 325680 3 coretemp 12770 0 snd_seq_device 13016 2 snd_seq,snd_seq_dummy cfg80211 117541 2 mac80211,iwlwifi crc32c_intel 12659 0 video 17459 1 i915 snd_timer 22359 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm rfkill 18484 5 cfg80211,thinkpad_acpi,bluetooth drm_kms_helper 22738 1 i915 aesni_intel 17913 1 drm 150561 4 drm_kms_helper,i915 aes_i586 16647 1 aesni_intel snd 42726 14 snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,thinkpad_acpi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_hdmi wmi 13051 0 aes_generic 32970 2 aes_i586,aesni_intel i2c_i801 12670 0 cryptd 14125 1 aesni_intel i2c_algo_bit 12713 1 i915 acpi_cpufreq 12807 1 iTCO_wdt 16917 0 pcspkr 12515 0 mperf 12421 1 acpi_cpufreq i2c_core 19116 6 i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801,drm,drm_kms_helper,i915,videodev soundcore 12921 1 snd iTCO_vendor_support 12632 1 iTCO_wdt processor 27565 1 acpi_cpufreq button 12817 1 i915 ext4 311684 3 crc16 12327 2 ext4,bluetooth jbd2 56344 1 ext4 mbcache 12938 1 ext4 microcode 13265 0 sg 21445 0 sd_mod 35425 5 crc_t10dif 12332 1 sd_mod ata_generic 12439 0 firewire_ohci 30847 0 firewire_core 38725 1 firewire_ohci crc_itu_t 12331 1 firewire_core ata_piix 25271 4 thermal 13103 0 ehci_hcd 39599 0 sdhci_pci 13576 0 thermal_sys 17752 3 thermal,processor,video libata 125019 2 ata_piix,ata_generic sdhci 22377 1 sdhci_pci usbcore 108505 8 ehci_hcd,btusb,cdc_wdm,cdc_acm,usbnet,cdc_ncm,uvcvideo scsi_mod 135111 3 libata,sd_mod,sg e1000e 122300 0 mmc_core 62021 2 sdhci,sdhci_pci usb_common 12338 1 usbcore Any ideas what do do next? Thanks! -- Atte http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk

On 07/02/2014 03:29 PM, Clemens Ladisch wrote: This is crunchbang (= debian wheezy). I installed libraw1394-tools and used /dev/fw1 for interface, and now it works! Now sure what made the difference, I assume the later. Thanks for the patience and sorry for the confusion. -- Atte http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk

On 06/26/2014 01:37 AM, Wayne DePrince Jr. wrote: http://subversion.ffado.org/wiki/HostControllers#VIA So does it also work at 88.2kHz and higher for you? Jeremy

On 06/27/2014 05:12 AM, Wayne DePrince Jr. wrote: Hmmm, my understanding is that the TI firewire chips were THE best chips to use with Linux? Don't know about that. My ~$1000 Linux laptop from System76 doesn't even have an ExpressCard port: it's all USB2 and 3 only. -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

On 06/27/2014 10:28 AM, Wayne DePrince Jr. wrote: I meant "best" in the sense of they worked reliably and were well supported by Linux. My old Toshiba laptop had a Firewire (FW400) port on it, with a TI chipset, but I was never able to get to work with the FW800 device I had to test with. I think problem may have been the adaptor I had to use. But that laptop finally died and vanished into recycling heaven. Sometimes I think a compact case with a microATX mobo and a PCIe FW card wouldn't be much bigger than some laptops. Bring a small LCD display and keyboard along with it, I suppose. -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

On ven, 2014-06-27 at 07:11 -1000, david wrote: thanks for the info. i guess everything is going USB these days. but can USB 3 perform as well as FW?

On 06/27/2014 01:36 PM, Len Ovens wrote: Just built a replacement for my dying desktop system. Used a Zen fanless PS. Even with 4 fans running inside it, the desktop is quieter than the laptop cooler my laptop sits on. My problem on desktops is that they're all just PCIe only. So now cannot use the 2 Audiophile 24/96s I have. :( I suppose I should pick up a PCIe Firewire card and talk the church into loaning me their unused Presonus ... -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

On ven, 2014-06-27 at 16:36 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: thanks. good to know that USB 2 could replace my FW ExpressCard+FW interface, as that seems the only way to get a bus-powered interface on a non-Apple laptop these days.