13 Aug
2008
13 Aug
'08
6:07 p.m.
I'm looking for guidance.
I serve at a church and school, and we would like to begin using midi but no one here
knows a lot about it. Personally, I use Linux as my main work desktop and home desktop,
and have done some Linux audio recording and editing under Linux, but nothing with midi.
Before the church invests tons of money in a new keyboard or midi software that only runs
under Windows. I was wondering if:
1. What are some good resources on the web to understand what midi can do for us and what
it can't do? (Basically, where can I learn about midi as a technology.)
2. We would like to use midi for (School Music, accompaniment for the children to learn
new music. Choir Music, accompaniment for the choir director so she does not have to play
the piece and direct at the same time, might be nice here to be able to play just the bass
line then all four parts at once. Church Music, accompaniment for congregation for
services when we don't have a live organist or when we have a small group worship
setting. Church Music, to add variety of instrument sounds that we can't get from an
organ or a piano.)
3. Finally, can midi under Linux handle the above tasks. What would be a wise investment
in equipment to get started with the goals above? I don't want to spend $2000 on a new
keyboard when instead something like the Yamaha QY100 would be a better investment. I have
asked others if I can have their midi files and many have said that they are in Qbase so I
imagine a Windows Program format will not work with Linux software. We do have a keyboard
with Midi in and we do have a Pentium 1Ghz with 512megs of ram, would that be enough to
get us started if we buy an midi interface, and I have no idea which one?
Even if you just point me to some reading materials, it would be appreciated, because we
are in the dark right now.
Thanks,
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13 Aug
13 Aug
6:31 p.m.
New subject: Looking for Resource Help with using Midi in a Church and School
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:07:31 -0700 (PDT)
mowestusa <mowestusa(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm looking for guidance.
I serve at a church and school, and we would like to begin using midi but no one here
knows a lot about it. Personally, I use Linux as my main work desktop and home desktop,
and have done some Linux audio recording and editing under Linux, but nothing with midi.
<snippety snip>
Here is one place to look - follow the yellow brick^H^H^ :) links
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
And here is another.
http://64studio.com/
Both of these, as well as promoting their own stuff, give you forums
and links to other related material.
I would be surprised if Qbase can't export proper MIDI files, but then
I know nothing of the Microsoft world - I don't go there :)
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
14 Aug
14 Aug
12:27 p.m.
New subject: Looking for Resource Help with using Midi in a Church and School
mowestusa schrieb:
I'm looking for guidance.
I serve at a church and school, and we would like to begin using midi but no one here
knows a lot about it. Personally, I use Linux as my main work desktop and home desktop,
and have done some Linux audio recording and editing under Linux, but nothing with midi.
Before the church invests tons of money in a new keyboard or midi software that only runs
under Windows. I was wondering if:
1. What are some good resources on the web to understand what midi can do for us and what
it can't do? (Basically, where can I learn about midi as a technology.)
2. We would like to use midi for (School Music, accompaniment for the children to learn
new music. Choir Music, accompaniment for the choir director so she does not have to play
the piece and direct at the same time, might be nice here to be able to play just the bass
line then all four parts at once. Church Music, accompaniment for congregation for
services when we don't have a live organist or when we have a small group worship
setting. Church Music, to add variety of instrument sounds that we can't get from an
organ or a piano.)
3. Finally, can midi under Linux handle the above tasks. What would be a wise investment
in equipment to get started with the goals above? I don't want to spend $2000 on a new
keyboard when instead something like the Yamaha QY100 would be a better investment. I have
asked others if I can have their midi files and many have said that they are in Qbase so I
imagine a Windows Program format will not work with Linux software. We do have a keyboard
with Midi in and we do have a Pentium 1Ghz with 512megs of ram, would that be enough to
get us started if we buy an midi interface, and I have no idea which one?
Even if you just point me to some reading materials, it would be appreciated, because we
are in the dark right now.
Thanks,
----------------------------
| Steve |
| mowestusa(a)yahoo.com |
| mowestusa.nixsyspaus.org |
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Well, Cubase can very niclely export MIDI files, wether in SMF Type 0 or Type 1
format. So that should give you plenty to work with if you have some outboard
MIDI soundmodule/sequencer like a Yamaha QY100.
Your friends would have to make sure though that they're exporting their files
in GM/GS format preferably, so they would match the instruments on most any
GM/GS compatible/conforming sound module.
I don't know about your 1 Ghz/512 MB RAM PC if it'll be able to handle
Rosegarden or not.
Personally I have NEVER EVER had a chance to make it work correctly.
1 MIDI track only, routed to an outboard synth, or whereever, gave 100% CPU
usage. That's simply ridiculous. Maybe I don't quite understand as of yet how to
properly configure my PC for linux use, but it's an AMD XP2200+, with 2 GB of
DDR 400 RAM, 5 fast HDD's (3xIDE, 2xSATA). So I don't know how far you'll
get.
As for a MIDI interfaces, I guess almost any would do today, as long as you're
using a recent kernel and a class compliant USB2MIDI box.
HTH
Raphael ;)
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1:14 p.m.
New subject: Looking for Resource Help with using Midi in a Church and School
mowestusa wrote:
Before the church invests tons of money in a new
keyboard or midi software that only runs under Windows. I was wondering if:
1. What are some good resources on the web to understand what midi can do for us and what
it can't do? (Basically, where can I learn about midi as a technology.)
Check out the material at Harmony Central (www.harmony-central.com). You
could also try Google, use "what is midi" for your search and you'll get
plenty of resource hits.
I wrote a series of articles on Linux and MIDI for the Linux Journal
on-line site. The series is listed here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/user/800764/track
2. We would like to use midi for (School Music,
accompaniment for the children to learn new music. Choir Music, accompaniment for the
choir director so she does not have to play the piece and direct at the same time, might
be nice here to be able to play just the bass line then all four parts at once. Church
Music, accompaniment for congregation for services when we don't have a live organist
or when we have a small group worship setting. Church Music, to add variety of instrument
sounds that we can't get from an organ or a piano.)
Many people in my area have done some or all of those things in their
churches. However, each of your scenarios has its own set of technical
(and musical) difficulties, so it's wise to expect a big chunk of
learning on your way to MIDI mastery.
3. Finally, can midi under Linux handle the above
tasks.
See above. :)
What would be a wise investment in equipment to get
started with the goals above? I don't want to spend $2000 on a new keyboard when
instead something like the Yamaha QY100 would be a better investment.
Your needs can
be met with the right keyboard synthesizer, laptop, and
software. As I said, it's do-able, but if you're starting from scratch
you have much to learn and it'll take some time and experimentation to
get it all right.
I have asked others if I can have their midi files
and many have said that they are in Qbase so I imagine a Windows Program format will not
work with Linux software.
A standard MIDI file (with the .mid extension) should be
usable across
harwdare platforms, and virtually all modern sequencing software
supports loading or importing standard MIDI files.
We do have a keyboard with Midi in...
No MIDI
Out and/or Thru ? Is there only one connection port ?
and we do have a Pentium 1Ghz with 512megs of ram,
would that be enough to get us started if we buy an midi interface, and I have no idea
which one?
More memory would be good, and you can probably use one of a MidiSport
or similar USB interface. Be sure to check here before you spend your
money ! This list includes people who can tell you whether your choice
is good or not, you would be wise to hear them. :)
Even if you just point me to some reading materials,
it would be appreciated, because we are in the dark right now.
I hope that information gets you going in the right direction. Ask
whatever questions you might have, the members here will help as much as
they can.
Best regards,
Dave Phillips
5:30 p.m.
New subject: Looking for Resource Help with using Midi in a Church and School
Dave Phillips wrote:
mowestusa wrote:
Rosegarden works very well on my laptop (1.5GHz Pentium M processor with
the same effective performance as your 1GHz Pentium, 768MB RAM). Drives
my Yamaha keyboard through an E-MU Xmidi1x1 port (USB MIDI port adapter).
No 100% CPU usage problems like some other poster on the list mentioned.
(I couldn't reply to that note because the poster's mail client put his
reply below something that my mail client considers the start of a sig -
so replying didn't include his reply in the note!) I seem to recall that
those problems are actually due to some problem with one of the
supporting graphics libraries of QT, but I don't know.
--
David
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and we do have a Pentium 1Ghz with 512megs of
ram, would that be enough to get us started if we buy an midi interface, and I have no
idea which one?
More memory would be good, and you can probably use one of a MidiSport
or similar USB interface. Be sure to check here before you spend your
money ! This list includes people who can tell you whether your choice
is good or not, you would be wise to hear them. :)
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