1 Sep
2012
1 Sep
'12
11:25 p.m.
On Sun, September 2, 2012 6:18 am, SxDx wrote:
----- Original Message -----
As an aside, one possible way of dealing with this issue is to create your
own voices for applications like orca.
If you want a quick and easy way to get started with that process you can
run "AT Distro" in a virtual machine.
http://atdistro.com
Otherwise you can go direct into orca too. As orca is scriptable it is
possible to create a singing voice. With some careful tweaking of the
voice parameters you might be surprised at how realistic it can be made to
sound.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
From: "Ralf Mardorf"
<ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
Ohhhh
sample ;).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
any technical info on that? free software doing the same, research papers
(easily available), anything?
2 Sep
2 Sep
10:46 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Shirkey"
<pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:25:26 PM
Subject: [LAU] Synthesized voices [was :Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like
EXS24)]
On Sun, September 2, 2012 6:18 am, SxDx wrote:
thanks for pointing that out. I tried a bit, it's slow
in qemu (expected). But it seems orca uses espeak, and
the voice is not realistic. What we hear in the video
above is much more realistic and I wondered how they do
that. Seems it's not public knowledge.
Thanks anyway.
----- Original Message -----
As an aside, one possible way of dealing with this issue is to create
your
own voices for applications like orca.
If you want a quick and easy way to get started with that process you
can
run "AT Distro" in a virtual machine.
http://atdistro.com From: "Ralf Mardorf"
<ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
Ohhhh
sample ;).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
any technical info on that? free software doing the same, research
papers
(easily available), anything?
3 Sep
3 Sep
9:59 a.m.
On 02/09/12 22:46, SxDx wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:25:26 PM
> Subject: [LAU] Synthesized voices [was :Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others
like EXS24)]
>
>
> On Sun, September 2, 2012 6:18 am, SxDx wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
>>> The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
>>> Ohhhh
>>> sample ;).
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
>> any technical info on that? free software doing the same, research
>> papers
>> (easily available), anything?
I think you only need the
resources/time/skill to sample all the
phonemes for various choir combinations, add glue and logic, the
interface, some usual ADSR stuff and filtering, reverb here and there, a
pinch of randomness, and your done :)
Another way could be to have 4 singers sing the lines various times
recording them multi-trak, each take with different miking positions and
EQing (or keeping the mike still in the room and having them move around
each time). If the singers were good enough they'd be able to change
their voice quality slightly at each take to mimic multiple people. Of
course you need 4 singers if you wanted a full SATB choir, probably just
a good baritone and dark soprano would suffice to have a mixed choir
effect for a monophonic or 2-voice line.
Lorenzo.
10:14 a.m.
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:58 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
On 02/09/12 22:46, SxDx wrote:
Don't explain it to me or this community, explain this to all the
companies, that are not interested to take care about Linux. "East West
Choirs" is one of many products users want to have and that are not
available for Linux. I'm not talking about my needs. And please imagine
users that need such software, e.g. for making the music for a
commercial. If a musician gets less money, the musician can't spent time
and resources. Btw. I would like to have such a choir, but I don't need
it. I never used it. I don't have Windows installed and I don't own a
Mac. Patrick's wish is to make companies aware about the capabilities of
Linux. Unfortunately Linux does not have the abilities many users wish
to have.
I'm not speaking against Linux and I'm not looking for solutions how to
e.g. replace a replacement for singers by singers.
I hope now it's clear what I tried to say and I don't need to add
another mail regarding to this topic.
Regards,
Ralf
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:25:26 PM
> Subject: [LAU] Synthesized voices [was :Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others
like EXS24)]
>
>
> On Sun, September 2, 2012 6:18 am, SxDx wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
>>> The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
>>> Ohhhh
>>> sample ;).
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
>> any technical info on that? free software doing the same, research
>> papers
>> (easily available), anything?
I think you only need the
resources/time/skill to sample all the
phonemes for various choir combinations, add glue and logic, the
interface, some usual ADSR stuff and filtering, reverb here and there, a
pinch of randomness, and your done :)
Another way could be to have 4 singers sing the lines various times
recording them multi-trak, each take with different miking positions and
EQing (or keeping the mike still in the room and having them move around
each time). If the singers were good enough they'd be able to change
their voice quality slightly at each take to mimic multiple people. Of
course you need 4 singers if you wanted a full SATB choir, probably just
a good baritone and dark soprano would suffice to have a mixed choir
effect for a monophonic or 2-voice line.
10:26 a.m.
On 03/09/12 10:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:58 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton
wrote:
Was just trying to
give a slightly different point of view :)
On 02/09/12 22:46, SxDx wrote:
Don't explain it to me or this
community, explain this to all the
companies, that are not interested to take care about Linux. ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Shirkey" <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:25:26 PM
> Subject: [LAU] Synthesized voices [was :Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others
like EXS24)]
>
>
> On Sun, September 2, 2012 6:18 am, SxDx wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
>>> The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
>>> Ohhhh
>>> sample ;).
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
>> any technical info on that? free software doing the same, research
>> papers
>> (easily available), anything?
I think you only need the
resources/time/skill to sample all the
phonemes for various choir combinations, add glue and logic, the
interface, some usual ADSR stuff and filtering, reverb here and there, a
pinch of randomness, and your done :)
Another way could be to have 4 singers sing the lines various times
recording them multi-trak, each take with different miking positions and
EQing (or keeping the mike still in the room and having them move around
each time). If the singers were good enough they'd be able to change
their voice quality slightly at each take to mimic multiple people. Of
course you need 4 singers if you wanted a full SATB choir, probably just
a good baritone and dark soprano would suffice to have a mixed choir
effect for a monophonic or 2-voice line. "East West
Choirs" is one of many products users want to have and that are not
available for Linux. I'm not talking about my needs. And please imagine
users that need such software, e.g. for making the music for a
commercial. If a musician gets less money, the musician can't spent time
and resources. Btw. I would like to have such a choir, but I don't need
it. I never used it. I don't have Windows installed and I don't own a
Mac. Patrick's wish is to make companies aware about the capabilities of
Linux. Unfortunately Linux does not have the abilities many users wish
to have.
By the way there are many many reports on-line of people frustrated for
the hours spent to get the iLok stuff working for these applications,
contacting bad customer support etc., probably just as much time as
Linux users spend hacking their systems :)
I'm not speaking against Linux and I'm not
looking for solutions how to
e.g. replace a replacement for singers by singers.
I hope now it's clear what I tried to say and I don't need to add
another mail regarding to this topic.
It's clear for me, and the email
wasn't personally addressed to you. I
was using your response to add another point of discussion ;)L
Lorenzo.
12:44 p.m.
From: "Lorenzo Sutton"
<lorenzofsutton(a)gmail.com>
>>>> From: "Ralf Mardorf"
<ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
>>>> The East West Choirs sing your lyrics. It's not another Ahhhh or
>>>> Ohhhh
>>>> sample ;).
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
I think you only need the resources/time/skill to
sample all the
phonemes for various choir combinations, add glue and logic, the
interface, some usual ADSR stuff and filtering, reverb here and there, a
pinch of randomness, and your done :)
Another way could be to have 4 singers sing the lines various times
recording them multi-trak, each take with different miking positions and
EQing (or keeping the mike still in the room and having them move around
each time). If the singers were good enough they'd be able to change
their voice quality slightly at each take to mimic multiple people. Of
course you need 4 singers if you wanted a full SATB choir, probably just
a good baritone and dark soprano would suffice to have a mixed choir
effect for a monophonic or 2-voice line.
Maybe that's how they do it in the video. I gave a try to mbrola and the
result is much more realistic than espeak. Mbrola uses recorded
phonemes (if I understand correctly).
1:38 p.m.
From: "SxDx" <sed(a)free.fr>
Maybe that's how they do it in the video. I gave a try to mbrola and the
result is much more realistic than espeak. Mbrola uses recorded
phonemes (if I understand correctly).
just for the record, there is "festival" which seems
to use similar approaches than (to?) mbrola.
http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
It's free software (x11-like license).
1:43 p.m.
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:38:16 +0200 (CEST)
SxDx <sed(a)free.fr> wrote:
This video series about the singing Tux is made with Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOdnVONAJDI
From:
"SxDx" <sed(a)free.fr>
Maybe that's how they do it in the video. I gave a try to mbrola and the
result is much more realistic than espeak. Mbrola uses recorded
phonemes (if I understand correctly).
just for the record, there is "festival" which seems
to use similar approaches than (to?) mbrola.
http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
It's free software (x11-like license).
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