20 Nov
2009
20 Nov
'09
2:53 p.m.
Hey all,
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
Thanks.
Andrew Coughlan.
20 Nov
20 Nov
3:03 p.m.
Terratec Phase26usb runs well and offers up to 6 outs, unfortunately
unbalanced, but good for 99.- euros.
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3:08 p.m.
Andrew C skrev:
Hey all,
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de
<http://thomann.de>, can anyone reccommend one that's under 100 or 200
euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
<http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra>
Thanks.
Andrew Coughlan.
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Hi Andrew
I just bought one of these:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/zoom_h4.htm
and it works fine, one of the downs is that it's a bit noisy when you
use it for both in and out at the same time, I usually use my internal
sound card for playback when i use it, another downer is that it's a bit
over your budget.
But you can take it anywhere and record in good quality, the build in
Mic is far better than I had hoped fore when ordering, I love the thing ;)
/Sv-e
3:41 p.m.
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Andrew C wrote:
Hey all,
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
Thanks.
Andrew Coughlan.
Hi Andrew,
I own a Edirol UA-25 and am very happy with it, alas it does not seem to
be available from thomann.de.
The ESI MAYA 44 USB is nice and works with Linux; but has no MIDI and no
XLR in; Note that you can only use 4 I/O simultaneously.
Practically every USB-1.1 interface (with few exceptions) works with
Linux; a list of supported devices is available at:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=7&o=0&w=t&s=v&…
Before you buy, check `cat /proc/interrupts` if your computer has a IRQ
for an USB with no other devices on the same line. Recent Kernels have
gotten much better at handling multiple devices on the same IRQ, but
you'll have less things to tweak and certainly a lower chance to
encounter xruns (aka drop-outs) if you can plug the sound-card in a port
with no other devices on it.
eg. I use usb4:
- ---8<---
17: 11859969 89 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb3, HDA Intel, ohci1394
18: 56231573 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb4
19: 334083 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb5
- ---8<---
HTH,
robin
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5:17 p.m.
Robin Gareus wrote:
Andrew C wrote:
It is now called 'cakewalk'
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cakewalk_ua_25_ex_cw.htm
My experience with that device is very good (although I only used the
former Edirol version). A good feature is that it is completely USB
powered (without significant distortion).
It works with no problems, and I did not even notice any problems with
24bit mode and full duplex (at least the driver or jack are not
complaining). My colleague reported problems with the "Advanced mode" on
Windows.
Giso
<...>
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
<...>
I own a Edirol UA-25 and am very happy with it, alas it does not seem to
be available from thomann.de.
7:30 p.m.
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Giso Grimm wrote:
Robin Gareus wrote:
OMG. Thanks for keeping me up to date.
just for the record: They're cheaper elsewhere.
Andrew C wrote:
It is now called 'cakewalk' <...>
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
<...>
I own a Edirol UA-25 and am very happy with it, alas it does not seem to
be available from thomann.de.
My experience with that device is very good (although
I only used the
former Edirol version). A good feature is that it is completely USB
powered (without significant distortion).
Indeed, even with the built-in phantom power it is. The Hi-Z switch is
also very handy; and it has pretty good pre-amps. On top of that the
device is very robust. All in all it's IMHO one of the best /cheap/
sound-cards.
Compared to the UA-25 the UA-25 EX CW also includes an analog
compressor. Given that it only has one knob (for the threshold), I doubt
it's very useful. FWIW the limiter on the UA-25 is similarly useless.
The new ground-Lift feature seems handy, though.
It works with no problems, and I did not even notice
any problems with
24bit mode and full duplex (at least the driver or jack are not
complaining). My colleague reported problems with the "Advanced mode" on
Windows.
~2 years ago it only worked in "Advanced Mode" with Linux ;) - I never
flicked that switch to off.
It works with `jackd ... -r48000 -p64 -n3` ~4ms latency; `jdelay`
reports 440 frames@48kSpS round-trip without x-runs.
robin
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8:32 p.m.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 01:30:24AM +0100, Robin Gareus wrote:
My UA-5 (similar, but no MIDI) has been in 'advanced' mode
for at least the last 4 years. Same setup as Robin's, same
latency. The only bad points I can give it are for the mic
preamps which are the noisiest I ever measured.
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It works with
no problems, and I did not even notice any problems with
24bit mode and full duplex (at least the driver or jack are not
complaining). My colleague reported problems with the "Advanced mode" on
Windows.
~2 years ago it only worked in "Advanced Mode" with Linux ;) - I never
flicked that switch to off.
It works with `jackd ... -r48000 -p64 -n3` ~4ms latency; `jdelay`
reports 440 frames@48kSpS round-trip without x-runs. 
21 Nov
21 Nov
5:16 a.m.
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:30:24 +0100
Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
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Giso Grimm wrote:
I have a UA-25 as well, just thought I comment on the last point:
-p64 -n3 always was the lowest possible setting for me, and to stay
x-run free I need to raise this to -p128 -n3.
If someone can tell me how to get lower or run -p64 -n3 in a stable
way, please tell me ;)
Otherwise I'm pretty happy with it. One flaw I noticed on my particular
piece is that when I turn the output all the way down, at the end the
right channel goes quiet first. This appears only on the very quietest
settings, so it's not a real issue for me.
Philipp
Robin Gareus wrote:
OMG. Thanks for keeping me up to date.
just for the record: They're cheaper elsewhere.
Andrew C wrote:
It is now called 'cakewalk' <...>
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from thomann.de, can
anyone reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works
under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
<...>
I own a Edirol UA-25 and am very happy with it, alas it does not
seem to be available from thomann.de.
My experience with that device is very good
(although I only used
the former Edirol version). A good feature is that it is completely
USB powered (without significant distortion).
Indeed, even with the built-in phantom power it is. The Hi-Z switch is
also very handy; and it has pretty good pre-amps. On top of that the
device is very robust. All in all it's IMHO one of the best /cheap/
sound-cards.
Compared to the UA-25 the UA-25 EX CW also includes an analog
compressor. Given that it only has one knob (for the threshold), I
doubt it's very useful. FWIW the limiter on the UA-25 is similarly
useless. The new ground-Lift feature seems handy, though.
It works with no problems, and I did not even
notice any problems
with 24bit mode and full duplex (at least the driver or jack are not
complaining). My colleague reported problems with the "Advanced
mode" on Windows.
~2 years ago it only worked in "Advanced Mode" with Linux ;) - I never
flicked that switch to off.
It works with `jackd ... -r48000 -p64 -n3` ~4ms latency; `jdelay`
reports 440 frames@48kSpS round-trip without x-runs.
robin 
24 Nov
24 Nov
4:20 a.m.
New subject: "Swissonic Easy USB" anyone? [Was: Re: USB Audio interfaces for linux?]
Hallo,
while browsing Thomann myself, I stumbled accross the "Swissonic Easy USB"
http://www.thomann.de/de/swissonic_easy_usb.htm which seems to be a USB 2.0
version of a similar Firewire device (also available branded as Phonic).
What's interesting about this is that is has balanced stereo in and out, and
most of all the price: Thomann sells it for 29 Euro! That's cheap enough to buy
two and sponsor an ALSA developer with the second one. :)
Has anyone any experience with this device? Note that I'd be interested in the
USB version, my laptop doesn't do Firewire.
Ciao
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Andrew C hat gesagt: // Andrew C wrote:
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface from
thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
Thanks.
Andrew Coughlan.
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4:31 a.m.
New subject: "Swissonic Easy USB" anyone?
Frank Barknecht wrote:
while browsing Thomann myself, I stumbled accross the
"Swissonic Easy USB"
http://www.thomann.de/de/swissonic_easy_usb.htm which seems to be a USB 2.0
version of a similar Firewire device (also available branded as Phonic).
"USB 2.0" does not necessarily mean "high speed". However, with 24
bits
at 96 kHz, full duplex would require high speed.
Has anyone any experience with this device?
Never heard of it.
It might work out of the box, or it might have the same problems as
other high speed USB audio devices.
You know the only way to find this out. ;-)
Best regards,
Clemens
6:35 a.m.
New subject: "Swissonic Easy USB" anyone?
Hallo,
Clemens Ladisch hat gesagt: // Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Hehe, indeed I know. :) But I'm not in such a need for a new device, although
the price is very tempting (probably the cheapest way to get balanced in/outs
so far) and Thomann would take it back if it doesn't work without asking
questions. Well, maybe someone else is more curious ...
Ciao
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
I did a bit more research: The device seems to be a re-branded "Phonic Firefly
202 USB". The Swissonic's power supply still sports the "Phonic" logo
according
to Thomann's package shots like:
http://images1.thomann.de/pics/bdb/218444/1768844_800.jpg
Phonic has a page for its device including a downloadable PDF manual:
http://www.phonic.com/en/audio-interface/firefly-202-usb.html
According to that, driver installation is needed for Win and Mac. It also seems
to be full duplex at 96/24 so it probably requires high speed USB. Changing any
settings like samplerate must be controlled by the host computer. It is
unclear, if the device supports bitdepths other that 24 bit, like e.g. 16 bit.
while browsing Thomann myself, I stumbled accross
the "Swissonic Easy USB"
http://www.thomann.de/de/swissonic_easy_usb.htm which seems to be a USB 2.0
version of a similar Firewire device (also available branded as Phonic).
"USB 2.0" does not necessarily mean "high speed". However, with 24
bits
at 96 kHz, full duplex would require high speed. 
Has anyone any
experience with this device?
Never heard of it.
It might work out of the box, or it might have the same problems as
other high speed USB audio devices.
You know the only way to find this out. ;-) 
8:31 p.m.
New subject: "Swissonic Easy USB" anyone? [Was: Re: USB Audio interfaces for linux?]
The firewire version is reported to work.... I know that doesn't help you
but that is all I have got
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
Hallo,
while browsing Thomann myself, I stumbled accross the "Swissonic Easy USB"
http://www.thomann.de/de/swissonic_easy_usb.htm which seems to be a USB
2.0
version of a similar Firewire device (also available branded as Phonic).
What's interesting about this is that is has balanced stereo in and out,
and
most of all the price: Thomann sells it for 29 Euro! That's cheap enough to
buy
two and sponsor an ALSA developer with the second one. :)
Has anyone any experience with this device? Note that I'd be interested in
the
USB version, my laptop doesn't do Firewire.
Ciao
--
Frank
Andrew C hat gesagt: // Andrew C wrote:
I'm considering buying a USB Audio interface
from thomann.de, can anyone
reccommend one that's under 100 or 200 euro that works under linux?
http://www.thomann.de/ie/cat.html?gf=usb_audio_interfaces&oa=pra
Thanks.
Andrew Coughlan.
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