2 Jan
2011
2 Jan
'11
7:09 p.m.
I looked into this some time ago and got a short way into getting it
to work with midish. Just tried again, using the comments in that
thread, and hit a dead end (probably my dead head!).
All I want to do is to play, from a command line, an existing midi
file to an external synth and record (at the same time) stuff I'm
playing on the synth.
This is easy to do in RG and other GUI programs ... can it be that
hard to do from a command line?
Anyone know of a program to do that? No JACK or virtual synths
required. Just let me play a named file and record.
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2 Jan
2 Jan
7:20 p.m.
Hello Bob!
So if you just want to record the audio output of your synth it should be
possible with midish. In your midishrc have a line like:
dnew 0 "20:0" rw # your soundcards ALSASEQ number
Then in midish:
import "midifile.mid" # quotes needed!
[start audio recording]
p
[turn to your synth and play]
s
[stop audio recording, done]
But you can also use aplaymidi:
aplaymidi -p 20:0 midifile.mid
Even simpler.
If you want to record the incoming midi data from your synth, instead of the
audio performance, then you would be better off with midish. Start the way
described, but after import:
tnew my_track
inew my_channel {0 0} # have my_channel be midi device 0 and channel 0
ci my_channel
Then you should be able to do:
r
s
This should playback the imported tracks, while recording your new synth
input.
Good luck!
Kind regards
Julien
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7:47 p.m.
Okay Julien ... looks like a replay of what we did a year or so ago.
I'm thinking I'm a complete idiot each time I try midish!
Hello Bob!
So if you just want to record the audio output of your synth it should be
possible with midish. In your midishrc have a line like:
dnew 0 "20:0" rw # your soundcards ALSASEQ number
I just installed midish from Ubuntu. No midishrc file created in the
install, so I put the one in /usr/share/docs/midish into /etc.
Uncompressed it and add the dnew line from above.
And ... the test:
bob$ midish
dnew: no such proc
So, let's take out the dnew from the /etc/midishrc file.
Now, it runs ... but no play.
bob$ midish
import "bridge.mid"
p
press control-C to finish
^C
Okay, assuming the port isn't set. Perhaps...
bob$ midish
devattach 0 "20:0" rw
import "bridge.mid"
p
20:0: No such file or directory
press control-C to finish
So, getting somewhere?
Now, we'll try smfplay:
bob$ smfplay -d 20:0 bridge.mid
20:0: No such file or directory
press control-C to finish
^C
Again, I have no idea
Then in midish:
import "midifile.mid" # quotes needed!
[start audio recording]
p
[turn to your synth and play]
s
[stop audio recording, done]
But you can also use aplaymidi:
aplaymidi -p 20:0 midifile.mid
Oh yes, aplaymidi works just fine. Only it doesn't record :) And
arecordmidi is great too, but it doesn't play.
Even simpler.
If you want to record the incoming midi data from your synth, instead of
the audio performance, then you would be better off with midish. Start the
way described, but after import:
tnew my_track
inew my_channel {0 0} # have my_channel be midi device 0 and channel 0
ci my_channel
Then you should be able to do:
r
s
This should playback the imported tracks, while recording your new synth
input.
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**** Listen to my CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars ****
Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
7:53 p.m.
Hello Bob!
I see the problem. Your midish is too old, better install from source it's
the usual way, get it from:
http://www.caoua.org/midish
Sorry for that, I should have noted, that some of the commands are newer.
and you should use rmidish instead of midish directly. rmidish is the shell
interface to the midish engine.
Oh and I think the easiest way for you is to copy midishrc to ~/.midishrc.
Kindly yours
Julien
--------
Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
the Linux TextBased Studio guide
======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
http://www.juliencoder.de
8:48 p.m.
Thanks, Julian. Never occurred to me that the Ubuntu version would be
outdated :) Gosh, never happened before! BTW, my MMA on debian is
about 4 years old ... and I've no idea how to get it removed/updated.
I don't have time to jump though the debian hoops to become "trusted"
enough to update my own programs. Oh well.
Yes, the new version appears to be working okay. At the least, they
record and play files!!!!
I'll sit down with the fine manual later today and see if I can get
some simple scripts written to do what I need.
Thanks for the help.
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello Bob!
I see the problem. Your midish is too old, better install from source it's
the usual way, get it from:
http://www.caoua.org/midish
Sorry for that, I should have noted, that some of the commands are newer.
and you should use rmidish instead of midish directly. rmidish is the shell
interface to the midish engine.
Oh and I think the easiest way for you is to copy midishrc to ~/.midishrc.
Kindly yours
Julien
--------
Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
the Linux TextBased Studio guide
======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
http://www.juliencoder.de
--
**** Listen to my CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars ****
Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
8:53 p.m.
Hey Bob!
If you need more help on the midish end, you can always try to ask. :-) But
I think I'm not the only one here knowing about midish. I think Alexandre is
on here or at least on the LAD.
Kindly yours
Julien
--------
Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
the Linux TextBased Studio guide
======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
http://www.juliencoder.de
3 Jan
3 Jan
6:58 p.m.
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:48:27PM -0700, Bob van der Poel wrote:
Thanks, Julian. Never occurred to me that the Ubuntu
version would be
outdated :) Gosh, never happened before! BTW, my MMA on debian is
about 4 years old ... and I've no idea how to get it removed/updated.
I don't have time to jump though the debian hoops to become "trusted"
enough to update my own programs. Oh well.
It's worth updating it, if possible, as a new debian
stable release is about to be.. ahh... released.
Whoever packaged it in the first place should
have an easy time of upgrading it.
Did you try writing to packages(a)qa.debian.org, who is
listed as the maintainer?
Best,
Joel
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Joel Roth
7:18 p.m.
Thanks, Joel, for the comments.
The original packager lost interest/time/whatever and isn't active
anymore with my project. I sent off a number of messages to various
debian addresses and didn't get very far. I'm sure I'm wrong in my
opinion, but I sense they are an exclusive club that is hard to get
accepted in. Honestly, I don't have time to become a trusted
contributor by working on little packages, and then getting to upload
my own after doing the getting accepted stuff. My programs are freely
available on my site (below) and it would be nice if debian users
could easily grab a updated copy... but there's only so much time and
motivation in me.
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Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca
WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca
I don't
have time to jump though the debian hoops to become "trusted"
enough to update my own programs. Oh well.
It's worth updating it, if possible, as a new debian
stable release is about to be.. ahh... released.
Whoever packaged it in the first place should
have an easy time of upgrading it.
Did you try writing to packages(a)qa.debian.org, who is
listed as the maintainer?
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