26 May
2004
26 May
'04
3:32 p.m.
Hi,
I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try running under Linux. I've
never tried the vstserver app before, but I hear it works for this sort
of thing. Unfortunately the VSTi I want to run isn't on the list of
tested VSTi's, so I'm thinking I should try running something that's
tested first. However I then ran into a basic lack up understanding
about what hosts a VSTi under Linux.
I've seen some info that maybe pd will do this? Is that the way to go?
I've got pd, vstserver and wine all built and installed. They are
working to various degrees so far.
Anyway I'm supposing there might be a HOWTO out there but I haven't
spotted it yet. Thanks in advance for any pointers.
- Mark
26 May
26 May
3:53 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try running under Linux. I've never
tried the vstserver app before, but I hear it works for this sort of
thing. Unfortunately the VSTi I want to run isn't on the list of tested
VSTi's, so I'm thinking I should try running something that's tested
first. However I then ran into a basic lack up understanding about what
hosts a VSTi under Linux.
I've seen some info that maybe pd will do this? Is that the way to go?
I've got pd, vstserver and wine all built and installed. They are
working to various degrees so far.
Anyway I'm supposing there might be a HOWTO out there but I haven't
spotted it yet. Thanks in advance for any pointers.
- Mark
Hi,
Found the quicktoot by Dave Phillips using Snd, but that seems to
require me to patch Snd? I'm not sure how to do this easily under Gentoo.
Other pointers gratefully accepted.
thanks,
Mark
5:25 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
Found the quicktoot by Dave Phillips using Snd, but
that seems to
require me to patch Snd? I'm not sure how to do this easily under Gentoo.
Hi Mark:
Open Snd, click on the Help menu label, then click on About Snd. In my
version the text that opens includes this line:
LADSPA 1.1
indicating that LADSPA support has been built into the binary.
Alas, that tutorial is badly in need of repair. I'll get around to it
Real Soon Now, but it should accomodate Kjetil's updates as well as the
new libfst & friends.
I think the Quicktoots would be better as Wiki-type thingies...
Best,
dp
6:41 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
Dave,
Thanks for the encouragement. Just back from lunch and trying out
Chris's suggestions about vsti as it looked simple, but so far no luck.
That's for another thread later today if I cannot get it working myself.
One question about all of this. It appears that if I run vstserver
it attempts to start EVERY VST (or even every file!) in my vst
directory?! Is this correct?
My version of Snd does appear to have the LADSPA 1.1 stuff built in
so possibly your example will work for me when I find a VSTi I can trust...
When you do get around to looking at this quicktoot please take a
close look at exactly which VST/VSTi's you mention. I'm finding links
out of date on the Linux VST site for a number of the ones in everyone's
examples (Not only yours.) so I don't know where to find the ones in the
example.
It's probably a bogus thing to do, and I'm not a pd user, but I
tried saving the 'text context' stuff you show and running it in PD. I
get errors about not being able to make connections. Life in Linux land
is not meant to be easy I suppose. ;-)
It's probably a too huge job for someone to really keep care of the
VST page and expect it to always be up to date.
Thanks,
Mark
Found the quicktoot by Dave Phillips using
Snd, but that seems to
require me to patch Snd? I'm not sure how to do this easily under Gentoo.
Hi Mark:
Open Snd, click on the Help menu label, then click on About Snd. In my
version the text that opens includes this line:
LADSPA 1.1
indicating that LADSPA support has been built into the binary.
Alas, that tutorial is badly in need of repair. I'll get around to it
Real Soon Now, but it should accomodate Kjetil's updates as well as the
new libfst & friends.
I think the Quicktoots would be better as Wiki-type thingies...
Best,
dp
11:07 p.m.
Mark Knecht wrote:
One question about all of this. It appears that if
I run vstserver
it attempts to start EVERY VST (or even every file!) in my vst
directory?! Is this correct?
I'm not sure it's trying to open each one. It seems like it's
registering each one though. Maybe Kjetil can tell us what goes on
during initialization of vstserver ?
My version of Snd does appear to have the LADSPA 1.1
stuff built in
so possibly your example will work for me when I find a VSTi I can
trust...
When you do get around to looking at this quicktoot please take a
close look at exactly which VST/VSTi's you mention. I'm finding links
out of date on the Linux VST site for a number of the ones in
everyone's examples (Not only yours.) so I don't know where to find
the ones in the example.
Mark, are you accessing http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ladspavst/ ? I ask only
because Tim's original page is still reachable but is out of date, and I
want to make sure you're reading the correct page.
I will seriously give the tutorial an update soon. I have yet to try
libfst and I'm 'way out of date even with Kjetil's work. Time to jump
back into that world...
It's probably a bogus thing to do, and I'm
not a pd user, but I
tried saving the 'text context' stuff you show and running it in PD. I
get errors about not being able to make connections. Life in Linux
land is not meant to be easy I suppose. ;-)
You might not be loading the required external. Did you start Pd with
'pd -lib /wherever/you/put/k_vst~' ? The full name of the object is
k_vst~.pd_linux but the -lib flag doesn't require the full name.
IMO, Pd really wants some essential externals (GEM, iemlib, k_vst~) for
full-on rocking capability...
"Easy" and "Linux" do seem to contradict at times...
It's probably a too huge job for someone to
really keep care of the
VST page and expect it to always be up to date.
I'm just too busy with other work to attend to my tutorial right away,
but I'll move on it asap, I promise. (Warning: Do NOT hold your breath
waiting for Dave to fulfil his promise! Doing so may be harmful to your
health!).
Best,
dp
27 May
27 May
12:22 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
Understood. Thanks!
- Mark
Mark Knecht wrote:
I got things working fairly nicely yesterday by:
1) Putting each VST in it's own directory
2) Starting vstserver using an empty directory as the exported path.
3) Starting vsti and using a relative path from the empty directory that
vstserver is using
vsti ../VSTi/SIR-Reverb/SIR_086.dll
A bit weird but it works nicely. Would be nicer if vsti would just use
the directory it's started from but this isn't bad.
<SNIP>
One question about all of this. It appears
that if I run vstserver
it attempts to start EVERY VST (or even every file!) in my vst
directory?! Is this correct?
I'm not sure it's trying to open each one. It seems like it's
registering each one though. Maybe Kjetil can tell us what goes on
during initialization of vstserver ?
Mark, are you accessing http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ladspavst/ ? I ask only
because Tim's original page is still reachable but is out of date, and I
want to make sure you're reading the correct page.
I was on that page. There's just a few links out of date. To be
expected. Just my luck to have them be the ones I tried first. They were
ones I searched out as having your name on them.
(For instance the links under Anenome & compakt)
FYI - these were just test cases for me. I have no real reason to run them.
<SNIP>
You might not be loading the required external. Did you start Pd with
'pd -lib /wherever/you/put/k_vst~' ? The full name of the object is
k_vst~.pd_linux but the -lib flag doesn't require the full name.
No, I didn't. Don't know how to use pd. Not going to spend the time now
that vsti seems to be working.
"Easy" and "Linux" do seem to
contradict at times...
I could write a book. I think most Linux folks don't know how 'easy' it
is for us non-programmer types. You know that standard comment "Just
build a new kernel"?! I still only have realtime and 'capabilities' on
my Planet boxes!
It's probably a too huge job for someone
to really keep care of the
VST page and expect it to always be up to date.
I'm just too busy with other work to attend to my tutorial right away,
but I'll move on it asap, I promise. (Warning: Do NOT hold your breath
waiting for Dave to fulfil his promise! Doing so may be harmful to your
health!).
26 May
26 May
4:04 p.m.
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 6:24 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try running
under Linux.
You probably want "vsti" from Kjetil Matheussen (using vstserver) or
"jack_fst" from Paul Davis and Torben Hohn (using libfst). Either of
these will run a VSTi with GUI as a standalone JACK/ALSA app that can
then be driven as an ALSA sequencer client from a MIDI source.
You can get vsti at http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/, or jack_fst at
http://linuxaudiosystems.com/fst/ . I have never tried vsti, but I
have used both vstserver-for-plugins and jack_fst with good results.
Chris
4:18 p.m.
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 07:09:41PM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 6:24 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
I use vsti for auditioning vsts but I find that the k_vst~ plugin for pd
offers more functionality, and also is accessible from seq24 (which is
not the case with vsti).
James
I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try
running under Linux.
You probably want "vsti" from Kjetil Matheussen (using vstserver) or
"jack_fst" from Paul Davis and Torben Hohn (using libfst). Either of
these will run a VSTi with GUI as a standalone JACK/ALSA app that can
then be driven as an ALSA sequencer client from a MIDI source.
You can get vsti at http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/, or jack_fst at
http://linuxaudiosystems.com/fst/ . I have never tried vsti, but I
have used both vstserver-for-plugins and jack_fst with good results.
Chris
4:56 p.m.
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 7:17 pm, James Stone wrote:
I use vsti for auditioning vsts but I find that the
k_vst~ plugin
for pd offers more functionality, and also is accessible from seq24
(which is not the case with vsti).
How does that work? The "accessibility from seq24" bit, I mean.
Preferably in terms that make sense to someone who's only passingly
familiar with either seq24 or pd...
Chris
6:42 p.m.
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 08:01:10PM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 7:17 pm, James Stone wrote:
seq24 will not start if vsti is running!
With a few tweaks, it is possible to have full midi controller input
with the pd plugin. I would be happy to post a quick and dirty mini
howto on it if there was some wiki or equivalent.
James
I use vsti for auditioning vsts but I find that
the k_vst~ plugin
for pd offers more functionality, and also is accessible from seq24
(which is not the case with vsti).
How does that work? The "accessibility from seq24" bit, I mean.
Preferably in terms that make sense to someone who's only passingly
familiar with either seq24 or pd.
7:47 p.m.
Chris Cannam wrote:
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 6:24 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
Chris,
The fst link doesn't seem to be working right now. Even the link on
the products web page is not operational.
The vsti one looks more promising. I've managed to get the SIR
implulse reverb up and going. There seems to be something strange (which
I haven't quite figured out!) about the order I start everything, but at
least it works to the level of bringing up a GUI.
It's encouraging that it also presents a MIDI port in qjackctl.
Thanks for the pointer!
Cheers,
Mark
I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try
running under Linux.
You probably want "vsti" from Kjetil Matheussen (using vstserver) or
"jack_fst" from Paul Davis and Torben Hohn (using libfst). Either of
these will run a VSTi with GUI as a standalone JACK/ALSA app that can
then be driven as an ALSA sequencer client from a MIDI source.
You can get vsti at http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/, or jack_fst at
http://linuxaudiosystems.com/fst/ . I have never tried vsti, but I
have used both vstserver-for-plugins and jack_fst with good results.
Chris
8:06 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Any instructions about for running a Win VSTi under vstserver
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 14:39, Mark Knecht wrote:
Chris Cannam wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 May 2004 6:24 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> I've got a Windows VSTi I want to try running under Linux.
>
>
> You probably want "vsti" from Kjetil Matheussen (using vstserver) or
> "jack_fst" from Paul Davis and Torben Hohn (using libfst). Either of
> these will run a VSTi with GUI as a standalone JACK/ALSA app that can
> then be driven as an ALSA sequencer client from a MIDI source.
>
> You can get vsti at http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/, or jack_fst at
> http://linuxaudiosystems.com/fst/ . I have never tried vsti, but I
> have used both vstserver-for-plugins and jack_fst with good results.
VST server made my head hurt a lOT~ In fact, I'm thumping out this
e-mail with my nose as I'm strapped in the "I-love-me" jacket in a
padded cell.
"Gone ga-ga! Dinner's in the lampshade!"
R~
Chris
Chris,
The fst link doesn't seem to be working right now. Even the link on
the products web page is not operational.
The vsti one looks more promising. I've managed to get the SIR
implulse reverb up and going. There seems to be something strange (which
I haven't quite figured out!) about the order I start everything, but at
least it works to the level of bringing up a GUI.
It's encouraging that it also presents a MIDI port in qjackctl.
Thanks for the pointer!
Cheers,
Mark
7580
days inactive
7581
days old
linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org
11 comments
5 participants
participants (5)
-
Chris Cannam -
Dave Phillips -
James Stone -
Mark Knecht -
Russell Hanaghan