On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote: [...] Midiman delta-44 with 4 inputs and 4 outputs is about 300 (dollar/euro). I have one and have been a happy customer. :) -- http://www.eca.cx Audio software for Linux!

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On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 09:21, Hartmut Noack wrote: > > 1) try Soundblaster 1024 Live! Player ( NOT SB Live 501 !!)

But, if you want a pro card... get a pro card. ...Something that won't lose half of its functionality without windows. ...Something made for music... not made for gamers.

-- Rick Taylor &lt;ricktaylor(a)speakeasy.net&gt; The Dispossessed

PS - If you'd like to hear the demos they're at http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html

I just got done last week recording a 4 song demo for my cheesy rockabilly band using an ST Audio C-Port DSP 2000 and my little single Athlon XP 1700+ box. I used Ardour and recorded 5 tracks simultaneously (it's a 4 piece). Zero problems. The DSP 2000 uses the same chipset as the EWX 24/96. If you're having problems setting up the EWX 24/96 to run stably then it's probably your system and not the card. Jan PS - If you'd like to hear the demos they're at http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/fuzzy.html On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 13:16, Hartmut Noack wrote:

Jan \Evil Twin\ Depner Anthony, Thanks. If you had any idea how clueless I am at this moment you probably wouldn't ask for the info. This is really the first time I have recorded a session. We did the rhythm guitar, bass, and drums together (in the drummers living room with his kids going crazy in the next room). I had my computer with an ST-Audio C-Port DSP 2000, a cheap little 6 input Behringer mixer, a Behringer 4 channel headphone amp, a Hughes & Kettner Red Box for the bass, and a Digitech RP-100 for the guitar. I recorded the bass and guitar direct. I used two cheap (Marshall) overhead condenser mics for the drums (about 2 meters up and slighty back of the drummer) and a Shure SM57 on the kick. We recorded the vocals on one of the Marshall mics next. We recorded one lead guitar track there and then I did all the rest in my living room using the RP-100 while annoying my wife to no end (I made my own guitar and it's a semi-hollow body so she could here me noodling away while she was trying to watch Emeril Live). Total time recording was about 8 hours for the basics and then I spent a few more hours doing the lead stuff. Many hours trying to get a decent mix. I used Ardour, Audacity, and Normalize for everything. Jan

Indeed, looks like Jan has discovered the "less-is-more" school of drum miking, which IMHO is often the way to go - don't put 10 mics on a drum kit unless you REALLY know what to do with 'em!

BTW, which cheap Marshall mics were those? is that the 600 or the 603 or what? I need some more mics and I've had my eye on those guys ...

Joe, Do you have one of the Behringer T1953 mic pre-amps? I remember someone saying they had one but I can't find the email. If so, how do you like it? I'm thinking about getting one although the Blue Tube is cheaper and has won some awards.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:49:12PM +0700, Darren Landrum wrote: Indeed, looks like Jan has discovered the "less-is-more" school of drum miking, which IMHO is often the way to go - don't put 10 mics on a drum kit unless you REALLY know what to do with 'em! BTW, which cheap Marshall mics were those? is that the 600 or the 603 or what? I need some more mics and I've had my eye on those guys ... that was my only real complaint with the track I downloaded - not a "natural" electric guitar sound at all. Now I know why. :) Of course this is a matter of taste - I just don't like "direct" guitar sound for most kinds of music. Good bass sound - I don't usually like direct bass either, but it's not obtrusive here, and it sits nicely in the mix. Overall the mix is nicely balanced and pleasing. Good job! -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 04:58:59PM -0600, Jan Evil Twin Depner wrote: they have a pretty good rep. well, at least the 603 does, the 2001 gets mixed reviews. i haven't had my hands on either. i do have an MXL 1006 which isn't bad but isn't great either. Supposedly the MXL 67 VG is a hell of a buy, i want to try one. understood. hey, have you tried the "Unmatched" ladspa plugin? I haven't. might be good for this kind of situation. ah, a danelectro clone :) I love danos, cool sounding critters. I have one of the new semi-reissue DC-2 guitars, it's great. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com

On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 13:16, Hartmut Noack wrote: } (Witch was not so with SB 1024 on my old Box and SUSE 7.3 That's strange... my experience with Soundblaster cards {I've installed, probably 25 or 30 on various machines {windows} I own two and I have a motherboard with one built in} is that they're no more stable than most consumer cards and don't really sound any better than the bulk of them. They're comparable to my $15 Muse or my 10 year old PAS16 in terms of sound quality and don't quite measure up to my Santa Cruz in either regard. The fact that they support sound fonts and have a digital out is something of a plus. On the other hand, my limited experience with pro cards {that being my Delta and my MOTU cards} is that they're much more stable and the sound quality isn't even in the same ballpark. I intend only to upgrade in the future. What I find to be truly disturbing about soundblasters is the fact that they're not only the default but frequently the high end available from most manufacturers and in most computer stores. ...That most consumers will spend $200 on a graphics card and really think nothing of it while with sound they're frequently not even aware of their options. {In other words... ask any consultant what the best is and you'll hear "soundblaster" {Which is patently untrue.} ...Given the benefits that competition has brought us in almost every other facet of the computer industry, this strikes me as very limiting. Personally, I'd like to see the envy24 replace soundblaster as the default so that things could start moving past the point we're at now. {:} Semi proprietary technologies like Direct-x strike me as similarly limiting.} -- Rick Taylor &lt;ricktaylor(a)speakeasy.net&gt; The Dispossessed