17 Feb
2014
17 Feb
'14
5:28 p.m.
Hi,
I'm completely new to Common Music
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/), so I'm hoping somebody
can give me a hand here. Before I go to the effort of starting to learn
it, I wanted to know if it is possible to somehow import audio files
with it and treat them as objects (say for example that I have a number
of noise sounds and that I want to generate some music by randomly
playing them for a length of time)? A quick look at the Common Music
webpage and some of the examples there didn't clear this up for me.
At the same time, what would be the best way to start learning how to
use it? From what I read, the book
http://www.amazon.com/Notes-Metalevel-Introduction-Computer-Composition/dp/…
is a very good starting point, but apparently all the examples, etc. are
for an old version of Common Music (CM2), so I'm not sure if whatever
one can learn from that book will be of much use with the current
version of CM3.
Any pointers welcome. Thanks a lot,
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17 Feb
17 Feb
11:23 p.m.
New subject: Common Music - Importing audio files, and pointers to learning material?
On 02/17/2014 11:27 AM, Angel de Vicente wrote:
Hi,
I'm completely new to Common Music
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/), so I'm hoping somebody
can give me a hand here. Before I go to the effort of starting to learn
it, I wanted to know if it is possible to somehow import audio files
with it and treat them as objects (say for example that I have a number
of noise sounds and that I want to generate some music by randomly
playing them for a length of time)? A quick look at the Common Music
webpage and some of the examples there didn't clear this up for me.
Hi Angel,
CM is now part of the Grace system. I've used it for many years,
primarily as a generator for Csound scores. Alas, I've never tried
random file playback with it. I suppose it could be done with Grace, but
I'd probably use SuperCollider3 for that purpose.
That said, Grace is fantastic, so I've cc'd this reply to Rick Taube,
the author of CM/Grace, perhaps he can advise you re: your intended use.
At the same time, what would be the best way to start
learning how to
use it? From what I read, the book
http://www.amazon.com/Notes-Metalevel-Introduction-Computer-Composition/dp/…
is a very good starting point, but apparently all the examples, etc. are
for an old version of Common Music (CM2), so I'm not sure if whatever
one can learn from that book will be of much use with the current
version of CM3.
Any pointers welcome. Thanks a lot,
At this time the best way to learn is by running the examples and
studying their code. The SAL language - Bill Schottstaedt's S7 Scheme
implementation - is very easy to learn, the examples are musical and
inspiring.
Best,
dp
18 Feb
18 Feb
12:01 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:23:29 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote
[...]
At this time the best way to learn is by running the examples and
studying their code. The SAL language - Bill Schottstaedt's S7
Scheme implementation - is very easy to learn, the examples are
musical and inspiring.
Isn't this slightly misleading? There is SAL, an Algol-like language
and there is S7, a dialect of scheme.
Cheers, RalfD
Best,
dp
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2:08 a.m.
New subject: Common Music - Importing audio files, and pointers to learning material?
On 02/17/2014 06:01 PM, R. Mattes wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:23:29 -0500, Dave Phillips
wrote
Ralf's correct, my bad.
Best,
dp
[...]
At this time the best way to learn is by running the examples and
studying their code. The SAL language - Bill Schottstaedt's S7
Scheme implementation - is very easy to learn, the examples are
musical and inspiring.
Isn't this slightly misleading? There is SAL, an
Algol-like language
and there is S7, a dialect of scheme. Cheers, RalfD
Best,
dp
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6:45 p.m.
New subject: Common Music - Importing audio files, and pointers to learning material?
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 08:08:37PM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
On 02/17/2014 06:01 PM, R. Mattes wrote:
You should check out CLM (Common Lisp Music) as well, written by
Bill Schottstaedt. You used to be able to combine CLM with CM.
CLM is much more audio-oriented.
lieven
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:23:29 -0500, Dave Phillips
wrote
Ralf's correct, my bad.
[...]
At this time the best way to learn is by running the examples and
studying their code. The SAL language - Bill Schottstaedt's S7
Scheme implementation - is very easy to learn, the examples are
musical and inspiring.
Isn't this slightly misleading? There is SAL, an
Algol-like language
and there is S7, a dialect of scheme. 
4:28 a.m.
New subject: Common Music - Importing audio files, and pointers to learning material?
I'd suggest taking a look at SuperCollider as well. It would be very easy
to accomplish what you want with SC.
B
On Monday, February 17, 2014, Angel de Vicente <angelv(a)iac.es> wrote:
Hi,
I'm completely new to Common Music
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/), so I'm hoping somebody
can give me a hand here. Before I go to the effort of starting to learn
it, I wanted to know if it is possible to somehow import audio files
with it and treat them as objects (say for example that I have a number
of noise sounds and that I want to generate some music by randomly
playing them for a length of time)? A quick look at the Common Music
webpage and some of the examples there didn't clear this up for me.
At the same time, what would be the best way to start learning how to
use it? From what I read, the book
http://www.amazon.com/Notes-Metalevel-Introduction-Computer-Composition/dp/…
is a very good starting point, but apparently all the examples, etc. are
for an old version of Common Music (CM2), so I'm not sure if whatever
one can learn from that book will be of much use with the current
version of CM3.
Any pointers welcome. Thanks a lot,
--
Ángel de Vicente
http://www.iac.es/galeria/angelv/
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Hi,
thanks Dave and Bruno for the replies. I was keen on Common Music,
having programmed in Lisp for a number of years, but I did have a look
at SuperCollider, and certainly my use case was trivial with it. Time to
experiment.
Thanks a lot,
Ángel
Bruno Ruviaro <bruviaro(a)scu.edu> writes:
I'd suggest taking a look at SuperCollider as
well. It would be very easy to accomplish what you want with SC.
B
On Monday, February 17, 2014, Angel de Vicente <angelv(a)iac.es> wrote:
Hi,
I'm completely new to Common Music
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/), so I'm hoping somebody
can give me a hand here. Before I go to the effort of starting to learn
it, I wanted to know if it is possible to somehow import audio files
with it and treat them as objects (say for example that I have a number
of noise sounds and that I want to generate some music by randomly
playing them for a length of time)? A quick look at the Common Music
webpage and some of the examples there didn't clear this up for me.
At the same time, what would be the best way to start learning how to
use it? From what I read, the book
http://www.amazon.com/Notes-Metalevel-Introduction-Computer-Composition/dp/…
is a very good starting point, but apparently all the examples, etc. are
for an old version of Common Music (CM2), so I'm not sure if whatever
one can learn from that book will be of much use with the current
version of CM3.
Any pointers welcome. Thanks a lot,
--
Ángel de Vicente
http://www.iac.es/galeria/angelv/
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11:45 a.m.
New subject: Common Music - Importing audio files, and pointers to learning material?
On 02/18/2014 04:13 AM, Angel de Vicente wrote:
...having programmed in Lisp for a number of years...
Then you might also want to check out OpenMusic :
http://repmus.ircam.fr/openmusic/linux
Best,
dp
21 Feb
21 Feb
12:58 p.m.
A> Before I go to the effort of starting to learn it, I wanted to
A> know if it is possible to somehow import audio files with it...
Hi Angel. This should be rather straightforward w. CM3/Grace.
When starting Grace (CM3's front-end), you get access to piles of
examples for working with soundfiles, processing or synthesis. Try
looking in the menu "Audio"->"Instrument Browser" (or hit Ctrl-i),
and
load something which looks close.
A> At the same time, what would be the best way to start learning
A> how to use it?
To get started, CM3/Grace has extensive built-in help, w. interactive
examples and tutorials, both using SAL and Scheme, and links to further
documentation around on the web.
Cheers,
-anders
10:30 p.m.
Hi,
anders.vinjar(a)bek.no writes:
A> Before I go to the effort of starting to
learn it, I wanted to
A> know if it is possible to somehow import audio files with it...
Hi Angel. This should be rather straightforward w. CM3/Grace.
When starting Grace (CM3's front-end), you get access to piles of
examples for working with soundfiles, processing or synthesis. Try
looking in the menu "Audio"->"Instrument Browser" (or hit Ctrl-i),
and
load something which looks close.
I've almost given up (for the moment) on CM, as SuperCollider was so
easy for this. In any case, I would like to try CM later on, but what I
gather from your mail is that I cannot easily import my own audio clips
(and instead you are suggesting to look for stuff that looks similar to
what I intended to import)? Am I correct? Then, I guess CM is still not
suited to what I wanted to do, becuase the audio clips that I want to
import are parts of songs, voices that I have recorded, etc. I guess
that there has to be some way of impoting new audio clips, but for the
time being I think I will try with SC.
Cheers,
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22 Feb
22 Feb
12:05 p.m.
>>>> "A" == Angel de Vicente
<angelv(a)iac.es> writes:
A> I've almost given up (for the moment) on
CM, as SuperCollider was
A> so easy for this. In any case, I would like to try CM later on,
A> but what I gather from your mail is that I cannot easily import
A> my own audio clips (and instead you are suggesting to look for
A> stuff that looks similar to what I intended to import)? Am I
A> correct?
Not so. There are examples distributed with CM/Grace doing what you
seem to be asking for.
Cheers.
-anders
4 p.m.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:05:41 +0100, anders.vinjar wrote
Playing audio loaded from files (kind of a file-streaming sampler)? What
example are you thinking of? I couldn't find any example for playing
samples from files. The only code I could find was in vkey.scm (wich
is _not_ in the example section, you need to open the instrument
browser, then select 'vkey' and then click 'edit instrument'). But
that doesn't come with any example and seems to be broken - et
requires expandn.scm, but that doesn't work (at least the examples
don't work).
Cheers, RalfD
>>>> "A" == Angel de Vicente <angelv(a)iac.es> writes:
A> I've almost given up (for the moment) on CM, as SuperCollider
was A> so easy for this. In any case, I would like to try CM
later on, A> but what I gather from your mail is that I cannot
easily import A> my own audio clips (and instead you are
suggesting to look for A> stuff that looks similar to what I
intended to import)? Am I A> correct?
Not so. There are examples distributed with CM/Grace doing what you
seem to be asking for.
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