On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:54 PM, torbenh <torbenh(a)gmx.de> wrote: jsweeper? \r

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 07:55:46PM +0100, rosea grammostola wrote: save and load sessions. the user will be able to save the state of all apps supporting the API with a single command/click. and will be able to reload it. no more maintaining of connection setup scripts and all the hassle involved before. regarding app support: already patched apps: - jack-rack - ghostess - specimen - guitarix in queue: - ardour - fst - seq24 i expect most jack apps for which session support makes sense to support the API sooner or later. session support cant be turned off by packagers without turning off jack support. a lot of LASH enabled apps showed up in repos with lash support disabled for example. also this approach doesnt tie a users to a specific sessionmanager. in this early state there are only jack_session_notify and pyjacksm but i expect more session managers to show up during this year. -- torben Hohn

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:00:01 +0200, torbenh <torbenh(a)gmx.de> wrote: fwiw, qtractor svn trunk already has full jack-session support (qtractor-0.4.5.1542+) highly experimental and untested though--any brave souls out there ?:) nb. all lazy/artificial restrictions that plagued qtractor before have been dropped cheers -- rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela rncbc(a)rncbc.org

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:06:16 +0200, torbenh <torbenh(a)gmx.de> wrote: these changes are already committed to svn trunk (qtractor-0.4.5.1546+) only tested with jack_session_notify and it looked ok :) cheers -- rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela rncbc(a)rncbc.org

Rui Nuno Capela wrote: @ torben, could you please provide a as clear as possible documentation of the api? Also documentation for devs who want to add support to there apps (I think you did that already)? It's nice that you are able to patch all these apps, but devs should do be able to do it themselves easily too of course. You see, I care about this becoming a success ;) @ LAD devs, maybe it's good to release early and often? I mean it's nice that you have gold in your svn's and git's, but when there is no release it will take centuries to get this stuff in the different distro's. Thanks in advance, \R

Hi Torben, A few questions that I cannot seem to dig out of the otherwise very useful diffs: What tools are available to test Jack session manager code? The examples only seemed to deal with the client side of things, not the actual session manager itself so I was wondering how the client code can be exercised. No interest in adding something like the following: enum JackSessionEventType { JackSessionLoad = 4, Maybe this has already been discussed in which case just drop it. The interest was an ability to reload the same session settings without having to break down and restart all the apps - is there another way to do this as it looked a bit like the session files were only read by the client at init time. I am a bit confused about the following from the seq24 diffs: + Glib::ustring cmd( "seq24 --file \"${SESSION_DIR}file.mid\" --jack_session_uuid " ); ... + m_jsession_ev->command_line = strdup( cmd.c_str() ); This is the command string used to start the app the next time around. What about other options that might have been given the first time around? If an app does not have them saved with the user settings then are pure runtime options lost? Is it the applications responsibility to ensure that the 'file' above contains all the parameters needed to start the app in the same way? Just curious, it puts a bit more onus onto the app developer rather than the session manager. What does the UUID consist of? Regards, nick. "we have to make sure the old choice [Windows] doesn't disappear”. Jim Wong, president of IT products, Acer _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

Yeah, it might have to maintain change logs to be able to remove bit of config, it is a nice feature though: If you have a reload feature you don't need to know - you start all the apps and then send the a reload request for a known file which you asked them to save previously. Many thanks for the clarifications. Nick. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

torbenh wrote: Does it save and reload sessions / settings / songs of the applications? Is it possible to load an application with the SM, with an certain setting / preset/ session? \r

torbenh wrote: So it support not only jack connections and applications restoration, but also applications settings e.g. ardour session, qtractor project, zynadsubfx settings etc. I have a session save with the SM. In that session I have Ardour running with a certain Ardoursession. Do I have to reload that ardoursession manually after the SM has relaunced Ardour, or is the ardoursession also restored? In Ladish you can (re)start applications with a certain session / file / patch for example ardour2 /path/rocksong.ardour \r

torbenh wrote: yes I think it is clear now. ;) When do you think it will be merged in jack2? \r

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 08:10:51PM +0100, Philipp wrote: svn co http://svn.fuzzle.org/jsweeper/trunk jsweeper -- torben Hohn

On 03/28/2010 12:24 PM, Harry Van Haaren wrote: Yesterday I tried to quickly whip up a demo app. I got into it for an hour but couldn't decide if it was worth adding all the gui features necessary for a simple demo. So far I came up with an app that load a gtk window with two buttons and four sliders. button1: Save Session button2: quit session slider 1 = channel 1, slider 2 = channel 2 etc... When save session/quit session are pressed the app saves the position of the sliders to a file on disk and loads it again when started if it exists. As a simple app it won't really do anything useful apart from demo how to work with the code so I would like to get some feedback from other users on what would actually be a useful demo of the code in action. I'm thinking along the lines of the demos apple released for the iphone which while being mostly fairly unnecessary are also still perfectly functional apps in their own right. If I can remove widgets or add only a couple more that would be preferable. Cheers. Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:31:10PM +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote: there is no standard way to trigger a Session Save. it will be session manager dependent. pyjacksm has a dbus interface. but i wouldnt consider it stable as of yet. i dont really see the relation to jack session. only 10% of such an app would be jack session related. i dont really think would be a good demo of jack-session. but maybe i am wrong. i tend to think that patches which add session support are better examples. this is the patch for seq24: http://trac.jackaudio.org/attachment/wiki/WalkThrough/User/jack_session/jac… -- torben Hohn

Patrick Shirkey wrote: :) OT: Does the currently released jackEQ now support restoring of the settings as the unofficial version I'm using does?

Patrick Shirkey wrote: Wow :) thank you. I'll replace the version I'm using now by the current version. Nag, nag, nag: Please, for the future do an announcement for progresses similar to this one ;). Your app is useful, but it doesn't help us users, if we don't know about progresses.

Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 12:32 +0200 schrieb torbenh: Many Thanks Torben, I have apply your patch for guitarix and have commit it to our SVN repository. For those how wane try jack-session with it, check out our SVN repository. regards hermann

Philipp wrote: Seems to be a problem because of the name, similar as it was for Jconf ... a Japanese something vs the reverb and jsweeper seems to be a game too and not only a session manager.