15 Jan
2004
15 Jan
'04
8:14 a.m.
Hi!
My two cents:
For me, any kind or consortium, coorporation or what ever you want who promote
the use of audio with linux was a good idea, i hope this can help to their
members (projects) to be really competitive. That will be good for all.
But .... i have an ethical question with the use of this domain name, hope in
the future will be useful for all the linux users, with that name probaly
many people go to this domain serching audio solutions, and hope they will
find and don't lost their time. And that is a big effort for any kind of
project.
I think this kind o domain name need to be a project supported by the members,
not a members supported by the project.
Josep
15 Jan
15 Jan
8:57 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:11:22 +0000, holborn wrote:
the future will be useful for all the linux users,
with that name probaly
many people go to this domain serching audio solutions, and hope they will
find and don't lost their time. And that is a big effort for any kind of
project.
Hmmm... lots of domain names look special when you see them in isolation,
but think of all the options:
linux-?music.(com|org|net)
linux-?sound.(com|org|net)
linux-?audio.(com|org|net)
music-?linux.(com|org|net)
...
l-a-[du].(com|org|net)
gnulinux-*.(com|org|net)
free-?software-*.(com|org|net)
...
this is one of hundreds of relevant sounding domain names, the chances of
someone picking it by change if they want to fond information are very
slim, they are far more likely to google.
- Steve
9:31 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] [OT?] Fun with numbers
Greetings:
I thought about posting a response to the linuxaudio.org controversy
but I've opted for posting some numbers instead.
It was pointed out that LAD can claim more than 700 members now.
Very cool, I love it. I'm not sure exactly what those numbers mean, but
I do know that only about 1/10 of that figure actually post regularly to
the list. So out of the 700 only ~70 are consistent contributors. Again,
I don't know what the numbers signify. I guess it's [your meaning here].
On January 7 Linux Journal On-line posted my second monthly column
(this one about Planet CCRMA and AGNULA). I checked for the number of
reads this morning: +10000. That's right, more than ten thousand in
little over one week. I point this out not to shine my own light, but to
indicate again that far more people are interested in Linux audio
development than the mail lists' membership numbers suggest.
(Actually I have a lot of thoughts on all this stuff, but I'm really
just too busy here for further comment.)
Back to the hack...
Best regards,
Dave Phillips
10:32 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] [OT?] Fun with numbers
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:46:40AM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
It was pointed out that LAD can claim more than 700
members now.
Very cool, I love it. I'm not sure exactly what those numbers mean, but
I do know that only about 1/10 of that figure actually post regularly to
the list. So out of the 700 only ~70 are consistent contributors. Again,
I don't know what the numbers signify. I guess it's [your meaning here].
On January 7 Linux Journal On-line posted my second monthly column
(this one about Planet CCRMA and AGNULA). I checked for the number of
reads this morning: +10000. That's right, more than ten thousand in
little over one week. I point this out not to shine my own light, but to
indicate again that far more people are interested in Linux audio
development than the mail lists' membership numbers suggest.
This just reflects the difference between users and developers, AFAICS.
In any case, that column was mainly targeted at (potential) users rather
than developers. The latter know about CCRMA and AGNULA.
--
FA
11:56 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] [OT?] Fun with numbers
Please shine the light as bright as you can. The color of Microsoft's self
illumination is getting tiresome. Any new lights are most welcome,
especially in the area of Linux. Keep up the good work.
And, oh yah, I am not one of the ~70 but I do listen and read the
conversations to try and keep a tempo (no pun) on the group.
-----Original Message-----
From: linux-audio-dev-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu
[mailto:linux-audio-dev-bounces@music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Dave
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:47 AM
To: LAU Mail; LAD Mail
Subject: [linux-audio-dev] [OT?] Fun with numbers
Greetings:
I thought about posting a response to the linuxaudio.org controversy but
I've opted for posting some numbers instead.
It was pointed out that LAD can claim more than 700 members now.
Very cool, I love it. I'm not sure exactly what those numbers mean, but I do
know that only about 1/10 of that figure actually post regularly to the
list. So out of the 700 only ~70 are consistent contributors. Again, I don't
know what the numbers signify. I guess it's [your meaning here].
On January 7 Linux Journal On-line posted my second monthly column (this
one about Planet CCRMA and AGNULA). I checked for the number of reads this
morning: +10000. That's right, more than ten thousand in little over one
week. I point this out not to shine my own light, but to indicate again that
far more people are interested in Linux audio development than the mail
lists' membership numbers suggest.
(Actually I have a lot of thoughts on all this stuff, but I'm really
just too busy here for further comment.)
Back to the hack...
Best regards,
Dave Phillips
11:39 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] [OT?] Fun with numbers
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 15:46, Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
I thought about posting a response to the linuxaudio.org controversy
but I've opted for posting some numbers instead.
It was pointed out that LAD can claim more than 700 members now.
Very cool, I love it. I'm not sure exactly what those numbers mean, but
I do know that only about 1/10 of that figure actually post regularly to
the list. So out of the 700 only ~70 are consistent contributors.
But is it a reason to keep discussions private, to create a private
mailinglist for that reason? Did anybody ask the developers of
linuxsampler and lilypond to join p-consortium? Those people are
definitely active contributors to the list. But the point is, all those
people could be asked through lad.
On January 7 Linux Journal On-line posted my second monthly column
(this one about Planet CCRMA and AGNULA). I checked for the number of
reads this morning: +10000. That's right, more than ten thousand in
little over one week. I point this out not to shine my own light, but to
indicate again that far more people are interested in Linux audio
development than the mail lists' membership numbers suggest.
As Alfons already pointed out, those are people interested in linux
audio. They might not even be users. I guess you would get even more if
you posted it on slashdot.
(Actually I have a lot of thoughts on all this stuff, but I'm really
just too busy here for further comment.)
Regarding [OT?] - agreed, it's OT on lad, i propose to rename the
p-consortium mailing list as Linux Audio Advocacy Mailing list (another
laa? or laad? :) and make it public.
Marek
10:16 a.m.
On Jueves 15 Enero 2004 13:54, Steve Harris wrote:
Hmmm... lots of domain names look special when you see them in isolation,
but think of all the options:
linux-?music.(com|org|net)
linux-?sound.(com|org|net)
linux-?audio.(com|org|net)
music-?linux.(com|org|net)
...
l-a-[du].(com|org|net)
gnulinux-*.(com|org|net)
free-?software-*.(com|org|net)
...
Yes of course.... and with more of then i have the same ethical question ...
But see the example of linux-sound, is usefull for all the users, and sure
dont have in their members the relevance of the members of the consortium.
Then i agree with their name.
this is one of hundreds of relevant sounding domain
names, the chances of
someone picking it by change if they want to fond information are very
slim, they are far more likely to google.
That's not a good example ... but ... if i register .. windowsaudio.org and is
a consortium of Steinberg and C-Labs for example ... sure Bill Gates don't
will be happy with that .... well .... in my opinion .. linux is from all the
people who mades something for linux, projects documentation ... etc, then i
can understand som people dont be happy.
For me is the same, i don't worry about, but a non-profit organization who
takes profit of their name .... creates flames :-)
Anyway this world if for the smart people ... or that i heard sometines.
Josep
16 Jan
16 Jan
12:05 a.m.
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 14:54, Steve Harris wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:11:22 +0000, holborn
wrote:
But the problem is bigger than it might seem. Try to google for 'linux
music' 'linux audio' 'linux sound'. You'll get different results.
You
want find lad when searching for 'linux music'. You'll find
hidsquad.com.
The importance of a domain name is that it's relatively easy to guess.
And most of all, it's easy to remember.
Marek
the future will be useful for all the linux
users, with that name probaly
many people go to this domain serching audio solutions, and hope they will
find and don't lost their time. And that is a big effort for any kind of
project.
Hmmm... lots of domain names look special when you see them in isolation,
but think of all the options:
linux-?music.(com|org|net)
linux-?sound.(com|org|net)
linux-?audio.(com|org|net)
music-?linux.(com|org|net)
...
l-a-[du].(com|org|net)
gnulinux-*.(com|org|net)
free-?software-*.(com|org|net)
...
this is one of hundreds of relevant sounding domain names, the chances of
someone picking it by change if they want to fond information are very
slim, they are far more likely to google.
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