Hi gerald, Op den Middeweken 30 März 2011 Klock 09:45:16 hett Gerald Mwangi schreven: i think, tritium is a little bit to big for your needs. further , it depends on QT, has all this midi stuff an lots of song/player logic. a smaller one is audiere. i can put some of your requirements into that, but that will take some time/weeks. let me know, if you are interested. sizu c~

On 04/01/2011 11:20 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Having worked extensively with tX and Hydrogen I think Tritium is the perfect library for extending tX functionality. Given that tX is very close in terms of *basic* user interface and features to that other app which shall remain nameless and given that Tritium is designed expressely to bridge the gap in Linux Audio that needs to be filled from a modularity PoV in order for us to achieve the more advanced features of the nameless app and given that this seems to be where Gerald is heading anyway it would be a reasonable idea to combine forces to 1: Enhance modularity of tX by integrating it with Tritium 2: Enhance modularity of Tritium by integrating it with tX 3: Get additional people involved in the development of Tritium 4: Not have to reinvent the wheel again. Hydrogen is one of the most advanced compositional tools we have round here. Tritium is designed to provide a modular way to integrate with that functionality and extends it to be compatible with LV2. Integrating that functionality into the tX interface and workflow will be a good thing(tm) and beneficial to everyone. There is a lot of good code and "live performance" interface ideas in tX that would be perfectly suited to integration with the best parts of Hydrogen. That is effectively what Tritium enables. I am hard pressed to come up with a more powerful combination than a modular tX integrated with Tritium. That would really be a useful tool for live performance. Combined with xwax and we have a complete solution for live DJing. Sampling, Drums, Midi connectivity, Turntables, Lv2 modularity, live plugins and all in realtime via JACK. Having those tools completely integrated and modular would be a huge achievement! -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

On 04/01/2011 12:01 PM, Paul Davis wrote: Apparently there is a religious devotion to a certain application and it has been deemed by higher authorities that it shall remain nameless at the risk of offending anyone of said devotional persuasion ;-) -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

On 04/01/2011 12:07 PM, Paul Davis wrote: So, we don't have to dress it up in a cuddly bear suit and drive it around in a secure vehicle? It's entirely appropriate to have it out in the open for everyone to discuss without fearing the wrath of vengeance from the angry mob of fervant religious believers? ;-) -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

On 04/01/2011 12:17 PM, Paul Davis wrote: I am just not sure that I can get away with discussing the topic in the open due to the possibility of being struck down by the almighty power of on high or bringing disrespect to those who are believers in the sacrosanct nature of the reigning King of Kings. Even by discussing the Taboo subject in this jovial way there is a high likelihood of fractures forming in the community of one camp against the other and it is possible there will be a spork at some point with nipples instead of knobs for controlling the associated LV2 plugins jack midi parameters and possibly the invention of a whole new Distributed Integrated Master Session(DIMS) API just to prove the point. :-) -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

On 04/01/2011 04:03 PM, Devin Anderson wrote: Not at all! I am genuinely concerned about the possibility of offending the fervant believers in the righteous power of the App that shall remain nameless and the sanctity of that hallowed institution leading the way for us mere mortals in the eternal quest for realtime performance and enlightenment of the dance massive. It is clear that discussion of the Taboo could lead to a fatal turn of events that might leave us completely at the mercy of Government corruption and ineptitude while we endeavour to shield ourselves from the ensuing radioactive fallout of a massive nuclear event caused by the shifting techtonic plates due to the impact of global warming from the excessive consumption of fossil fuels brought about by the need to provide a rock solid environment for Audio posers and Professionals alike to achieve their goals of world domination while at the same time enjoying all the benefits of a successful career in the music industry and the wealth, status and success that goes with selling out to the highest bidder to provide corporate sponsored entertainment of the mass market driving the entertainment market into fits of passion at the mere sound of the latest autotuned sample while overlayed with the darkest philosophical perspective due to the Mass Media Industrial Military complexes desire to manipulate our thoughts with their pervasive agenda of death and destruction on a global scale in order to confuse into ignoring the depth of corruption and negligence inherent to the self fulfilling system of Political and Corporate greed enhanced by the merger of the fiat currency system with multimedia devices running competing mobile operating systems to ensure vendor lock in while we give away our rights in order to make sure we can enhance the facial recognition technology of the Elite Societies that require total dominance of the international global market for divine intervention in the nationalised institutions that combine technologies to create a broad based award winning platform for teleportation of our quantum entangled states while we injest our daily dose of vitamins to counter the effects of long term exposure to radionuclides emitted into our environment for with a full lifetime of hundreds of thousands of years. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

On 04/01/2011 07:23 PM, Gerald Mwangi wrote: So, I wonder why you choose to work with tX when Rui has started a long way on this path with qTracktor? Cheers. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

Hi, mixxx as i understand it tailored to live DJing as in just qeueing songs and fading between them, for e.g. for a party .tX is tailored to creating a live performance, similar to sooperlooper, with the exception that you use prerecorded loops, instead of recording them live. regards, Gerald On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 09:59 +0100, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:

Oh sorry, I checked it out but the workflow/interface made me think it's not for a performance act. And I always felt that tX's workflow and Gui, its support for multiple turntables suits my needs. Neverless looking at the mixxx website, mixx has evolved since the last time i checked it out. I'll play with it, until I've made tX what I want it to be. By the way the scratch algorithm in tX is superior to any other program (even mixxx) I've played with. Gerald On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 07:11 -0500, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:

That's worthwhile a thought. More than 2 turntables is just a must have for me. BTW is there a diff btw decksand turntables in mixxx? Gerald On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 11:45 -0500, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:

Hi all, Op den Freedag 01 April 2011 Klock 10:59:05 hett Rui Nuno Capela schreven: this is exactly the idea behind a library. it serves functionality, and above that, one can release/create the (software) ideas, without worring the basic functionality every sound software is needed. so many people on this list had reinvended the wheel/soundengine again and again. And for me, the question will be: what is in and what is out off the scope of such a library. But this is a different discussion. It would be much easier for all of us, to have a well accepted library with the basic functionality. and easier means tested and proven by lots of apps and users. bye c~

On 04/01/2011 08:17 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: this might be the intellectual equivalent of zero point energy. it's pretty random, and nobody will be able to extract anything useful from it. forgive me for pouring diesel on the flames, but it seemed the safest option - water has been reported to combust spontaneously around here. back under my stone, jörn

On Thursday, March 31, 2011 08:01:51 pm Paul Davis wrote: I think he means Ableton Live. But saying "we need Ableton Live on Linux" is proven to be flame-bait on this list. For the rest, he's saying that collaboration between Composite and TerminatorX would be a win-win. And though I haven't trapsed through tX's code... I'm inclined to agree. -gabriel