Linux-audio-user February 2003

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RE: [linux-audio-user] Interuptions While Recording

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

>> Mark Knecht <mknecht(a)controlnet.com> Wrote: >> Rocco, >> Hi. Why all the focus on the disk drive side only? There's >> also a good chance that the sound card is not getting serviced >> and this causes the interruption. >> >> Things to think about and look for: >> >> 1) Interrupts are not set up well > Someone on this list mentioned an article that you wrote about > IRQ priority ordering and Latency using lspci. <CHOP> > This time I used the correct keywords and it took me right > to the HOWTO. <CHOP> > I will work with that and see if that has an effect on the situation. I read the article, and did "cat /proc/interrupts" and got the following: CPU0 0: 30093 XT-PIC timer 1: 356 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 11: 21919 XT-PIC EMU10K1 12: 73 XT-PIC usb-ohci, usb-ohci 14: 12651 XT-PIC ide0 15: 15 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 >From what I read from the article, (and the little understanding I have about this subject) nothing seemed unusual. With the exception of the non-PCI slot IRQ's, the Sound Card appears to be before all others. The article talks about some IRQ's being shared. Would that be reflected in the output of "cat /proc/interrupts"? Before I switched my Sound Card to another slot, I thought I would disable USB in the BIOS since it's just being used for the mouse. I'm now using a ps mouse. after booting up and doing "cat /proc/interrupts" I got the following: CPU0 0: 25160 XT-PIC timer 1: 542 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 11: 0 XT-PIC EMU10K1 14: 7620 XT-PIC ide0 15: 15 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 Even though there was no indication that the Interuptions (while recording) would stop, I still tried recording. I got the usual interruptions. Then I switched the sound card to the other PCI slot. There's only 2 PCI slots because the Mother Board came with onboard this and onboard that (all of which I don't use and have disabled in the BIOS). The other thing is that there's _nothing_ in the other PCI slot. But I put it in the other slot anyways. And as you can guess, I got the same results from "cat /proc/interrupts". All I can think of is that there may be a reason why my Mother Board was inexpensive. Maybe it's time to buy a new Mother Board. Can anyone think of any other solution?' Thanks, Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 1 month

RE: [linux-audio-user] Interuptions While Recording

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

Mark Knecht <mknecht(a)controlnet.com> Wrote: > Rocco, > Hi. Why all the focus on the disk drive side only? There's > also a good chance that the sound card is not getting serviced > and this causes the interruption. > From my experience your drives have more than enough raw speed > to record and playback a few channels of audio anyway, so I think > that the disk drive is unlikely to be the issue here. > Things to think about and look for: > 1) Interrupts are not set up well Early on I worked on the Sound Card end of this long investigation. Someone on this list mentioned an article that you wrote about IRQ priority ordering and Latency using lspci. Unfortunatly, I (carelessly) did a Google search with the wrong key words. Your responce (this email) prompted me to look back at the original email. This time I used the correct keywords and it took me right to the HOWTO. It looks pretty promising. I will work with that and see if that has an effect on the situation. I wish I had done this in the first place. I wasted so much time trying to "push IRQ's around" by using the only BIOS setting available ("reserve IRQ for legacy ISA"). Partly what made this useless was that (prior to finding the HOWTO), I wasn't even sure what was a "good" IRQ or a "bad" IRQ. Besides, that was such a hap-hazard way to proceed. > 2) Some other application is stealing cycles I eliminate as much of this as possible by running ecasound without X and as root. But there could be a background process going on. I would assume (by the consistency and predictability of these "interrupts" that it's a problem with data transfer). > a) autorun trying to play CDs automatically I guess I don't understand this. If you're simply referring to the CD player being busy, I'm not running the CD Player while recording. > b) some other app started automatically Certainly possible. Thanks for taking the time to help. I will work with the HOWTO that I found and see how that works out. Thanks, Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] attn: cecilia users

by Austin Acton

Hi Cecilia users, I need your help. I'm making a Mandrake RPM for cecilia, and the default setting are very non-linux friendly. I don't know enough about the program or its file formats to chose good preference settings, so I was wondering what you use for the following programs in cecilia (must be GPL/BSD/MIT type license): Soundfile player (default is 'hear', don't know it) Soundfile editor (default is 'mixviews', not freely-distributable) Soundfile converter (default is 'xsox', we have that, but is there anything better?) Just wondering what you personally use for these settings. Thanks for your help, Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] While we're talking about lack of responses :-)

by Ivica Bukvic

I e-mailed the list a couple of days ago asking for some advice regarding my RTMix app ("how to make it more user-friendly"). I am still waiting for some help on this one :-D. Again, any insight is greatly appreciated! Sincerely, P.S. Web server hosting my page is still down, thanks to the "smart" university technicians... If someone desires screenshots I'd be more than willing to send them to you as an attachment (I just don't wanna do that over the mailing list because it would clutter a lot of people's inboxes). Ico

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] why is no-one responding

by janne halttunen

On 13 Feb 2003 01:38:13 +1100 Son of Zev <sonofzev(a)labyrinth.net.au> wrote: > However I have been involved in the ardour lists for over 2 years. I > have spent much time reading about potential problems and responded to > all those that have had the courtesy to respond. I have also learnt and > spent much time investigating problems that have nothing to do with the > production of music.. simply to try and help developers iron out > problems.. Pretty much everyone into linux audio at this point does that. > If you look back into archives a couple of years back alot of > development into inclusion of MIDI sync was added to some softwares > (especially MusE) to accomodate users like myself who depend on this > sync to make software compatible with real studios. > > BUT. In the last few weeks I have spent much time into trying to > configure and compile ardour (the potentially greatest audio recording > software available to us) Heh, I've been up to the same task. It seems to depend on fairly recent development tools, and upgrading to them all can mess things up. But slowly working towards it. > but all my responses after I sent an opinion > to the string "ahem" concerning Steinberg having produced (but not > released) versions of their commercial softwares under our much loved > platform, have been completely ignored.. except this one.. > > My responses have not been ignorant nor lacking in information. As I > mentioned I have spent much time learning about the Linux platform and > contributing when I can ... Well, position yourself with a working ardour, and then think how much time you would spend on helping others, when all that time you could be making music :) > My annoyance is when it was asked of me to provdie more information and > I did .. no response came.. then when I tried to resolve it myself and > no further response came that's when I could only put 2 & 2 together and > see that a response I made to the string "ahem" could have been related Sometimes more information does ring a bell to someone, sometimes it doesn't. That's pretty much about it from my point of view. There are many bits in cyberspace. janne (or is there? ;) > cheers > > Allan

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] envy24-control cannot set proper input-level for terratec ewx

by Hartmut Noack

I run Linux 2.4 / SUSE 8.1 pro on a Duron 1300 - PC with a Terratec EWX 24/96 - PCI - Audiocard. Yast2 installs Kysela`s Envy24-Control - Mixer for this Card and it works well for playing Wav/Ogg/MPEG-Audiostreams etc. BUT: to set the Inputlevel properly is nearly impossible. If a soundmessage from Bash occurs the input is distorted and set to SW-Radio - "Quality", same with other Systemmessages. To get an undistorted Signal i have to set the Input extremely low, if it is set to the same volume as the internal output (from XMMS etc) it is extremely distorted and/or i get the SW-Radiosound as described above. here my questions: 1) is there an alternative to alsa/envy24-control that works ok with EWX ? 2) is there a patch for envy24 as RPM ? thanks -- HZN/Berlin/Fh http:www.linuxuse.de

22 years, 1 month

Re: [linux-audio-user] Interuptions While Recording

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

> ...But even 30 MB/sec should be far enough to get > dropout-free recording. > 44100 * 16 * 2 (bit/sec) = 1411200 bit/s > 44100*16*2/8 = 176400 byte/s = around 200 kB/sec. > See? Even if you play at the same time (duplex), your > 30 MB/sec is far more than that. > One more thing, but be aware, I heard switching the > dma-transfer-rate might be dangerous > if you don't have the new 80pin cables. (right?) Yes, I definatly have the cables. > you might want to check. "hdparm -i" which gives you > some "*" on the options > that are set. see the "dma1 dma2 dma3 dma4 dma5" line, > which (in my case has the "*" at the dma4=100MB/secautomatically set.) Here's what doesn't make sense to me. The Web Site that you referred me to says: "Ultra DMA modes, such as UDMA2, 4, and 5, are also referred to as ATA/33, ATA/66, and ATA/100, respectively." Now, the term "respectivly" means that mode 5 refers to ATA/100. When I look at the output of "dmesg" I see the line: "SiS730 ATA 100 controller" And yet the output of "hdparm -i /dev/hda" lists" Model=Maxtor 6Y080P0, FwRev=YAR41VW0, SerialNo=Y30HJLPE Config={ Fixed } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=7936kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=160086528 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled Drive conforms to: (null): 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 There's not even a listing for udma5. Since I keep reading all these warnings about not trying settings that aren't supported, should I try udma5? Just in case I missed something (and I've been reading everything can get my hands on for weeks now) here some info from my Mother Board Manual: The mainboard delivers high-level performance with support for... <SNIP> ... and two PCI Bus Master Ultra DMA (UDMA) ports that support up to four ATAPI devices. The PCI IDE also supports PIO Modes 3 and 4, UDMA33/66/100 IDE and an ATAPI CD-ROM And further into the Mother Board Manual it says: The built-in fast PCI IDE controller supports ATA Programmed Input/Output (PIO) and Direct Memory Access (DMA) mode. The Ultra DMA33/66/100 feature delivers data transfer rates up to 100 MB/s by providing a separate data path for two IDE channels and improving multi-tasking performance Thanks Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Seeking advice in making my app more "user-friendly"

by Ivica Bukvic

Hi all, (Tried getting some help at the LAD list but so far I got no response, hopefully I can get some input from you guys :-) -- for those who are subscribed to both lists, my apologies for cross-posting) I am in the process of revamping my app as well as adding more features. The problem my app currently has is that the main window is not resizable, which may potentially cause problems on displays with limited resolution. I've decided to fix this issue once and for all but am not sure which path to take. The app in question is RTMix and its current layout is split into two parts: Top with timers and buttons Bottom with the main notification widget and bunch of tabs for editor and other functionalities. The app looks something like this: _________ |buttons| | timer | _________ | tabs | |widgets| _________ Now I am ready to begin working on a resizable version (which should mostly not be a problem, other than being time-consuming) and am wondering whether I should separate the two widgets all together and have them therefore fully customizable (size-wise). While this option seems very easy to implement and also attractive, I am concerned with the issue that the app will easily lose its default looks and may quickly become overwhelming for the first-time user (since it is designed to provide performer-computer interface with the least amount of familiarization required). I would especially appreciate comments from people who got to use RTMix as to what would they like to see, but of course I would appreciate anyone else's opinions on this matter as well. The other option I've been thinking is to move the two widgets side-by-side, rather than having one over the other, which would certainly make maximizing window easier and would utilize the desktop space more efficiently. However, the issue is also that the app has a bunch of other deployable floating sub-windows and as such this may not prove to be the best solution, and would probably look pretty useless when having a relatively small window. Finally, I can simply leave the app as it is but then the notification interface (the bottom part) as well as other tabbed widgets of the bottom part (such as the script editor) will not be as efficient in utilizing the desktop space as they could possibly be. I also thought of having the two widgets designed in such a way that they can be "glued" together (i.e. xmms-like) or separated as needed, but I am just afraid that this option may take too much effort since then I would have to get rid of the default window decorations (in order to make them "gluable") and make my own custom-designed window handles, which seems too much of a nuisance to implement. I am sure someone might have yet another idea regarding this issue that I am simply unable to think of so I would greatly appreciate your input on this matter. The bottom line is that I am looking to make this app as flexible in terms of desktop space utilization as possible while sacrificing the minimum amounts of the "standardization" it currently has to offer. Your help is greatly appreciated! BTW I am using Qt (if that becomes relevant at some point). P.S. I have a bunch of screenshots on my site, but the network is currently screwed up on the University campus so it may end up not being available for the next 8-24 hrs. Hence, I am unable to give you the screenshots. However, you may wanna try the URL in my sig -- who knows, maybe the network will be up by the time this hits your inboxes :-). Again thanks for your help! Sincerely, Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer, multimedia sculptor, programmer, webmaster & computer consultant http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico ============================ "To be or not to be" - Shakespeare "To be is to do" - Socrates "To do is to be" - Sartre "Do be do be do" - Sinatra "2b || ! 2b" - ? "I am" - God

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] disabling a midiport

by Anthony

I have an onboard cmipci without a midi port. However, aconnect always shows the mpu401 that the chipset supports. Is there a module option to disable this so i don't see it? --ant

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] [ANN] jMax 4.0.1 released

by Patrice Tisserand

Here is a new release of jMax (4.0.1) This release includes a lots of bugfixes and several new features. You can download it from: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=26076&release_id=1391… Changes: - new audio configuration panel (Project->Edit Current Configuration) - "Save As Default" menu for project and Audio/MIDI configuration - templates are supported - in~/out~ take an audiolabel name as argument - C++ and Python client library under development - clean sequence package - detection of available audio devices - several bug fixes - remove obsolete documentation - help patches are not complete - new input~ object - new fvec/ivec editors Linux: - user project is $HOME/.jmax/default-project.jrpj - user configuration is $HOME/.jmax/default-config.jcfg - detection of available Jack Audio Port (in Jack Audio Connection Kit support package) - connection with Jack Audio Port inside jMax (new audio configuration panel) Installation on Linux: - the rpm have been built on RedHat 7.3 - we have split jMax into several RPMs: -- jmax-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains FTS server, packages and Java FTS client -- jmax-client-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains only C++ and Python FTS client -- jmax-common-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains only FTS server and packages -- jmax-devel-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains only FTS header and packages header -- jmax-jack-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains only Jack Audio Connection Kit support package -- jmax-java-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm : contains only Java FTS client Linux source compilation: - do the following shell commands: $ tar xvzf jmax-4.0.1.tar.gz $ cd jmax-4.0.1 $ ./configure $ make $ make install - if you want to compile with Jack Audio Connection Kit support, add --enable-jack when calling configure $./configure --enable-jack for compilation with Jack Audio Connection Kit support jMax sourceforge home page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmax/ -- Patrice Tisserand <Patrice.Tisserand(a)ircam.fr> IRCAM

22 years, 2 months

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Linux-audio-user February 2003