Linux-audio-user November 2007

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by J M Needham

Hi, At a local church in Bath, I am planning a series of seminars on Linux audio as they want to enable people to produce/record/master/mix without spending exhorbitant amounts. I have many ideas on what I want to talk about, but could use some advice. So far I have planned (all plans can change with suitable advice): 1: Showcase: Linux, IP Kubuntu studio, emphasising its worth as an OS in its own right and doing brief demonstrations of Rosegarden, Ardour, Hydrogen, LMMS, zynaddsubfx, specimen. [The idea is to show Linux is actually worth installing, very competent and can be very easy to set up and use, and the music software is _very competent) 2: Jack and Rosegarden. Using Soundfonts. Also relation to Muse. 3: Synths: Linked into Rosegarden stuff -- Specimen, Zynaddsubfx, AMSynth, fluidsynth. Driving synths via other programs (RG, Muse, Seq24) 4: Plugins and mastering: LADPSA, JAMIN, Ardour. 5: Putting it all together. Showcase of creating a track, mixing, mastering, fx, recording, burning to CD. What are people's thoughts? If this is genuinely naive, I apologise. I've only my experience to go on and I really want (helpful) criticism.. Jonty

18 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] A virtual LAU chillout band

by Ken Restivo

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:16:06AM +1000, Mark Constable wrote: > On Friday 09 November 2007 17:12:16 Charles Linart wrote: > > A virtual LAU band would be super cool. > > Totally agree. Just putting in my bid for anyone interested > in cooperating with a downbeat chillout electronica piece > under a GPL license (where the "source" components that > make up the piece are also available) ? > > Cycle-of-fifths and suspended 4ths sequences with lots of > strings and pads, sweeps galore, real drums n bass, no doof. > I'm in; sounds like fun. Looks like Charles Linart and Drew Roberts are into it too? So that's four. Anyone else? Who wants to start the ball rolling? - -ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHOfEBe8HF+6xeOIcRAtIDAJoC2TcLlxTTxtBb7krqGhiAWx25QwCg44vd o66SS3UsZGcAx+G/me3KPfY= =O2QL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

18 years, 1 month

Fwd: A virtual LAU chillout band

by David O'Toole

i forgot to CC the list: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David O'Toole <dto(a)gnu.org> Date: Nov 13, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [LAU] A virtual LAU chillout band To: Alexandros Vichos <alexandros.vichos(a)gmail.com> hello everyone, i'm a long-time lurker but I thought I would say something. i think it would be fun to participate in a "tape jam". you post a stereo 44.1kHz FLAC to your website or whatever. just establish one or a few elements, so that there's plenty of room to pass it to someone else on the list. that person layers something on top. And so on. Some of our band's music is at http://dto.mamalala.org On Nov 13, 2007 3:21 PM, Alexandros Vichos <alexandros.vichos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I subscribed to the list quite recently, and I can see many > interesting stuff going on. > Some time ago, I thought that it would be very interesting for > musicians to be able to develop a piece of music online. The main idea > was a subversion tree clone for musicians, just like it's used in the > coders community. That way, someone can present an idea, and let > others too work on it. If another user has a different "view" on the > original idea, there can also be a "fork" and so and so. Once the > project is complete, there may be more than one versions of the > original piece. > I don't know if someone has implemented this idea, neither have I > searched online for something similar, but this post reminded me of > it, and i thought it would be nice to share it with all you Linux > Audio guys! > -Alexandros > > > On Nov 13, 2007 9:35 PM, drew Roberts <zotz(a)100jamz.com> wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 12:46:52 Ken Restivo wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:16:06AM +1000, Mark Constable wrote: > > > > On Friday 09 November 2007 17:12:16 Charles Linart wrote: > > > > > A virtual LAU band would be super cool. > > > > > > > > Totally agree. Just putting in my bid for anyone interested > > > > in cooperating with a downbeat chillout electronica piece > > > > under a GPL license (where the "source" components that > > > > make up the piece are also available) ? > > > > > > > > Cycle-of-fifths and suspended 4ths sequences with lots of > > > > strings and pads, sweeps galore, real drums n bass, no doof. > > > > > > I'm in; sounds like fun. > > > > > > Looks like Charles Linart and Drew Roberts are into it too? > > > > If the license to be used is Free and preferably copyleft, YES. Other than > > that, not sure. > > > > > > So that's four. Anyone else? Who wants to start the ball rolling? > > > > Well, I can supply lyrics right away. > > > > Can perhaps record some beginner harmonica tracks. > > > > Other than that, very busy this month participating in NaNoWriMo. > > > > http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/47354 > > http://dangernovel.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > -ken > > > > all the best > > > > drew > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user >

18 years, 1 month

MIDI software question

by Josh Lawrence

Hello list, I am looking for MIDI software that supports note entry from a QWERTY keyboard. There are many fine software packages out there, but all of them require note entry from a MIDI keyboard or via a mouse. I *hate* using the mouse when trying to make music. Hate it, hate it, hate it. So is there anything that allows note entry with a QWERTY keyboard? A real-time "vim for MIDI?" -- Josh Lawrence http://www.hardbop200.com

18 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] [Consortium] Benefit of Compiz to audio work?

by Marc-Olivier Barre

On Nov 12, 2007 6:21 PM, Pieter Palmers <pieterp(a)joow.be> wrote: > Cory K. wrote: > > The Ubuntu Studio team is considering shipping Compiz (with a minimal > > config) in Ubuntu Studio-Hardy 8.08. > > > > Some have said that moving the drawing of windows off the the GFX card > > would help the load on the CPU and thus keep xruns to a minimum. > > > > Any thoughts/ideas on this one? > > My stance would be that xruns are not that much dependent on load as > they are on interrupts. If your machine is not at the maximum of its > capabilities, xruns only seem to occur when certain I/O related events > are happening. One of the most problematic I/O types in my experience is > the video card I/O. So the question is whether you're not making things > worse. > > When running a properly configured RT-patched kernel that prioritizes > the video card IRQ low enough, it could be a good idea. When the config > is bad, it will IMHO only increase the problems. Since recently, I'm using compiz-fusion on my music laptop. Luckily, my IRQs are not a bother as long as I don't use the internal sound card : 16: 150106 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb5, HDA Intel, radeon@pci:0000:01:00.0 17: 7 IO-APIC-fasteoi yenta, hdsp Latency is set to 2.66ms. The most problematic clients causing runs on my system are those unadapted to RT work (xmms2 and mplayer...) and it's only a dozen/hour... But still, I get a few random xruns that seem to happen without any explainable cause... Not sure what they are. I'll have to dig a bit more someday. __________________ Marc-Olivier Barre, MarcO'Chapeau.

18 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] ableton live through wine

by jim

Hi list I saw those posts about Ableton Live in linux with wine. I've never tried to run it with wine but I have good results with Innotek VirtualBox, running a XPsp2 in a ubuntu gutsy host. For now i only tested with audio clips with Live provided audio effects, no midi, no virtual instruments, but the results are quite good, seems stable. And virtualBox is really easy to setup, configure and use.

18 years, 1 month

Paris London - Lausers

by Patrick Shirkey

Hi, I'm heading over to Paris and London for a few weeks on Saturday for work. If anyone is around and wants to cash in the beer I owe them or just meet up let me know. I'll be in Paris from 17 Nov - 1 Dec and London from 1 - 6 Dec. Cheers. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd.

18 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] good players

by Ken Restivo

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 One option to give it some structure, might be to model it upon something like the Mixit/Quixit program in em411.com http://bl0rg.net/~manuel/sixtyminutemixit/quixit-faq.txt Looks like the Quixit concept was designed in part by one of our LAU members, James (Everazmah). http://www.archive.org/details/everamzah-mixit_quixit-vol1_ep Though a Quixit isn't really a collaboration, more of a friendly online "laptop battle". There may be other ways to structure it though. - -ken - ----------------- On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 04:01:39PM -0500, Charles Linart wrote: > drew, > > Do you mean can I pitch shift it and put it on-key, or do you mean can > I translate it into melody and have someone who can sing sing it? The > former would be trickier than the latter. > > Would be willing to set up a private area (wiki-type thing) of my > website for "band members" to upload and download stuff until we get a > finished "product" together. > > Am totally willing to work under a free and open Copyleft license for > this project if others are as well. > > Let's do it! It could be really neat. Wednesday would be a good day > for me to set up the private area of the site. Who's in? > > On Nov 10, 2007 8:22 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I haven't had very good luck doing collaboration via email and ftp; it seems to go much smoother and be a lot more fun live with everyone in the same room, but I'm willing to try. > > > > I'd imagine that linux audio geeks will have have more tools in common than musical styles or goals in common, but that might result in some very interesting music indeed. > > > > Then again, we probably all use a pretty diverse suite of tools too. What would the lingua franca be? An Ardour project? Ogg or wavpack files? MIDI files? > > > > Would communication be over email? Via IRC or Jabber or something more real-time-like? > > > > My stuff is here: http://www.restivo.org/blog/ > > > > - -ken > > - -------------- > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 08:12:14AM -0500, drew Roberts wrote: > > > On Friday 09 November 2007 17:12:16 Charles Linart wrote: > > > > A virtual LAU band would be super cool. If anybody wants to lay > > > > something down, I'd be happy to lay something (guitar, bass, "singing" > > > > oft-described as "Dylanesque", rapping) on top or underneath it. > > > > > > If you all are willing to do stuff under a Free copyleft license, I have words > > > and will write more as well. > > > > > > Right now, I am using various versions of the CC BY-SA licenses, but am happy > > > to find evaluate / test others as well. > > > > > > Charles, do you have the ability to listen to someone who can't sing, try to > > > sing and then make something of that? > > > > > > all the best, > > > > > > drew > > > > > > > > On Nov 9, 2007 3:31 PM, Svend-Erik K Madsen <sv-e(a)sv-e.dk> wrote: > > > > > Kevin Cosgrove wrote: > > > > > > On 9 November 2007 at 6:57, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Nice players too, I'd love to have access to a drummer like > > > > > >> that. Apparently I live in a Forbidden Zone for decent > > > > > >> drummers, all of them here think John Bonham was subtle. :( > > > > > > > > > > > > You might reside in a Forbidden Zone, but here on LAU there are a > > > > > > a lot of folks who can play well. I've thought it would be fun to > > > > > > have a virtual collaboration with Linux using musicians. My > > > > > > instrument happens to be drums, and my style is all over the map, > > > > > > hopefully to fit the style of whichever players I'm with or the song > > > > > > being played. The last stuff I finished was 3 tunes with Kevin > > > > > > Ferguson, specificly: > > > > > > > > > > > > Liberation (straight ahead rock?) > > > > > > http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/kevinferguson3-01.m3u > > > > > > > > > > > > Awaiting the Past (bluesy) > > > > > > http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/kevinferguson3-09.m3u > > > > > > > > > > > > Mayday Macedonia (Balkan dance tune in 27/16 and phrygian mode) > > > > > > http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/kevinferguson3-15.m3u > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When time permits (I'm involved in 3 part-time projects now, plus a > > > > > > day job, plus a family -- I'm sure folks here can relate) I'd really > > > > > > like to do some music with other LAU people. Is there a better place > > > > > > to meet than the LAU list to discuss this? If so, just let me know > > > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks.... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > > > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > > > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kevin > > > > > > > > > > I'll be glad to play some licks in your virtual band if you fancy my > > > > > style, take a listen here at your own risk : > > > > > > > > > > *http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=456274* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /Sv-e > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > > > > !DSPAM:4734db6e38191804284693! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFHNllIe8HF+6xeOIcRAl09AKD3WJBOKfGvymaVZ/uCTs0ymHkP+gCgxAAC > > OxZklwgw+jrJBriqszUG2uY= > > =ioUi > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHOPnje8HF+6xeOIcRAqg9AJ9pRU4V3mV/un5/kciv7tYbTQ5zhQCfdToO zkM5P6kG6LlI7w4i2kxiJLg= =Ti+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

18 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] Subject: Tuesday Audio nite at Bellevue LUG

by william estrada

Paul, Have you considered a webcast? Could be interesting! -- William Estrada MrUmunhum(a)popdial.com Mt-Umunhum-Wireless.net ( http://Mt-Umunhum-Wireless.net ) Ymessenger: MrUmunhum > Message: 3 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:38:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul > DeShaw"<zaltar(a)myway.com> Subject: [LAU] Tuesday Audio nite at Bellevue LUG > To: ubuntu-studio-users(a)lists.ubuntu.com, > linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org Message-ID: > <20071112023850.6CB3F467BC(a)mprdmxin.myway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="US-ASCII" > > > Greetings, > > I wish I'd said something earlier, but the Bellevue Linux User's Group, in > Bellevue, Washington, is going to have some computers set up with 64 Studio > and Ubuntu Studio, for just some informal exploration/messing around; I'll be > doing some kind of informal presentation--the blind leading the blind, I > know, but there was no one else. If any of you live nearby, it would be > great if you could drop by an lend some expertise. They meet in the Bellevue > Barnes & Noble bookstore, 626 106th Ave NE, Bellevue, WA (425) 451-8463, > starting at 7 PM. It looks like the music presentation will be sometime > later, maybe 8:00. > > Cheers, > > Paul

18 years, 1 month

no soound from rme hdsp 9632

by Diseño treees

Hi people, i've got a question about the hdsp9632, maybe anyone solved this before, i've searched a lot without success: Last week i installed a Debian Lenny for audio work. I had the 1.51 firmware on the hdsp, and alsa failed on the startup (loading hdsp module). After some google searching i found that newer versions of alsa (as mine) could handle latest firmware. So i installed the 1.53 firmware. Now alsa recognizes the card, and jack runs fine, but i only get sound from the output 9. I read an email about that, saying that a downgrade to (hard to find) version 1.52 will solve this. Here i've got two problems, maybe more: 1. When i execute (from windows) the firmware update tool, nothing happens. I've written to RME to know if it's any problem downgrading from version 1.53 (i did it from factory 1.52 to 1.51 some months ago with no problem). The card is working well in windows. 2. While looking for an answer, i found a package named "alsa-firmware" ("alsa-firmware-loaders" in debian) containing some firmware configuration files. So i went into /usr/share/alsa/firmware (/usr/share/alsa/cards in debian) and i saw two RME config files: RME9636.conf and RME9632.conf My card is the 9632, maybe i missed a firmware config file? How can i know which of both files is used by the hdsp module for my card? Sorry, this is my first post and is a headache :( Thanks a lot anyway, Juan.

18 years, 1 month

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Linux-audio-user November 2007